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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of toxic [Re: daytripper05]
    #6559674 - 02/12/07 08:35 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Thank you so much for opening my eyes to this. i have never even herd of them before... and I'm sure a lot of people haven't either..... i sent out a mass email and a my space bulletin... asking everyone to repost it..... thank you so much


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of tox [Re: lsd25icu812]
    #6559681 - 02/12/07 08:36 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Oh well thank god we've got a Myspace bulletin going around now :rolleyes:

"Repost this or CODEX will ruin your love life for 10 years!!!"


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of toxic [Re: lsd25icu812]
    #6559685 - 02/12/07 08:36 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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lsd25icu812 said:
Thank you so much for opening my eyes to this. i have never even herd of them before... and I'm sure a lot of people haven't either..... i sent out a mass email and a my space bulletin... asking everyone to repost it..... thank you so much





good man. I like people who try to make changes even in the most subtle ways. Power of one my friend.


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of toxic [Re: daytripper05]
    #6559743 - 02/12/07 08:46 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

dnkyd.. what the fuck did you do... ..... a lot of people can be reached threw that network.... i thought that maybe my friends would like to know that there is a power that is trying to kill all of us. but i guess i better not let them know because myspace is all to silly of a medium to tell them threw:thumbdown:


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of tox [Re: lsd25icu812]
    #6559785 - 02/12/07 08:52 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yea fuck myspace, and fuck you for jumping on the bandwagon of some shit you know nothing about


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of tox [Re: lsd25icu812]
    #6559788 - 02/12/07 08:53 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

*through

And 90% of the people your bulletin reaches won't give a shit. They'll read it and then go about their way customizing their profiles with the newest, gayest song or design theme.

What did I do? Not a damn thing.


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of toxic [Re: lsd25icu812]
    #6559813 - 02/12/07 08:56 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Damn these people for imposing standards and regulations on the products we eat and consume.

All codex does is force natural products companies to meet toxicology standards. This is because nearly all things (even water) can become toxic at ultra high doses.

Has anyone thought of reading the actual document explaining what it is: http://www.codexalimentarius.net/web/index_en.jsp


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of toxic [Re: badchad]
    #6559861 - 02/12/07 09:09 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

i have like 25 people that will get that bulletin, and I guarantee you everyone of them will read it and appreciate it. you know nothing about me or my friends. i don't use myspace for social play... i use it as a tool to keep in contact with my friends from all over the country so that we can share info like this with eath other. how can you say anything about those people. I'm sorry i came at you with harsh words that was not cool of me, but seriously what you said was ignorant. you don't know me or my friends. i dont see how you can say that me letting like 25 of my friends know about somthing that is important to all of us is in anyway shape or form "gay"


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of tox [Re: Shroomism]
    #6560045 - 02/12/07 09:57 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

This is bullshit. Shame on you for posting this. :nono:


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of tox [Re: TheCow]
    #6560147 - 02/12/07 10:23 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Do you have a link to where they claim that all animals must use growth hormones?





Mathis and Mayfield dairies were sued about 25 years ago because they refused to
use any hormones or unnecessary antibiotics to boost milk production. milk from
cows dosed with the shit tastes like it's near spoiling and usualy goes bad within
5 days of opening it... parmalat is one of those milks.


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of tox [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6560208 - 02/12/07 10:37 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

So you are saying that all milk is made in this way? Therefore all milk is disgusting and goes bad within 5 days? I dont see that as the case at all


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of tox [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #6560236 - 02/12/07 10:42 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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This is bullshit. Shame on you for posting this. :nono:




Mmmhm. Where's your evidence it's bullshit?

Try doing some research.

http://ahha.org/codex.htm
http://ahha.org/CodexGuidelines.htm
http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/PHARMACEUTICAL_BUSINESS/health_movement_against_codex/index.htm#top
http://iahf.com/codx-fda.txt
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Codex Alimentarius is Latin for "food code." Originating in 1962, it was formed by the United Nations to set global standards governing every aspect of food production, distribution and trade. However, it's starting to become an issue of some controversy. Supporters claim it is a benign and necessary set of guidelines that facilitate the goals of international trade. They say that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) is facilitated via this international "food code," because it sets trustworthy standards insuring the quality of food products we import and export.

However, there is a growing body of critics who believe that the Codex Alimentarius is over-stepping its mandate, and it actually threatens to dramatically reduce our health freedoms. Critics also charge that we, health-conscious consumers, will lose our ability to purchase many of the organic foods, nutritional supplements and herbs we take for granted today. They warn that the 60% of the world's population that depend upon herbal medicines will not be able to afford the pharmaceutical drugs that will replace them. The new laws requiring genetically modified crops, pesticides, hormones and antibiotics in foods will be cost-prohibitive to people living in developing nations, and that billions of people may die as a result of these policies. They say that the new guidelines are being influenced by large food, chemical, agricultural, and pharmaceutical companies who will profit from the changes.

In the United Stated our healthcare rights and freedoms are currently protected by a Federal law enacted in 1994 called Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA). DSHEA considers nutritional supplements and herbs to be foods and as such, there is no upper limit on dosages. This act protects our rights as consumers and guarantees the rights we currently have. As long as this Act remains in effect we probably don't have to worry much about regarding the restrictive nature of Codex Alimentarius.

What's the problem?

Critics of the current situation believe that there is a good chance that without consumer participation, the US Congress will adopt Codex Alimentarius for our import and export standards, and act to repeal or significantly weaken DSHEA. In fact there are several bills in Congress right now that attempt to weaken DSHEA. Why would they do this? Because the big winners are the large corporations that are able to meet the new standards and/or own patents protected and promoted by Codex Alimentarius. Critics say that these large companies are lobbying Congress for these changes, while assuring the public that nothing much is going to change and we shouldn't be alarmed.

The question is: Is this alarmist claim true? Some people do get worked up over nothing and there are charges of misinformation being made by both sides. Our assessment is that this situation is worth monitoring. It's certainly logical that if there were billions of dollars to be made by large corporations that they would have a vested position in the issue. Codex Alimentarius is published so we can see what it contains, and it's now being implemented in other countries so we can see what is changing there.

Who are you going to believe, me or your own two eyes?

Here are a few facts we received from Rima Laibow, MD:

  1. Codex Alimentarius requires that all meats, poultry, fish, fruit and vegetables must be irradiated by Dec. 31, 2009.
  2. Codex Alimentarius requires that all dairy cattle are to be given Monsanto bovine growth hormone by Dec. 31, 2009.
  3. Codex Alimentarius reclassifies vitamin and mineral supplements as toxins and dramatically limits their dosage and availability.
  4. Many nations have already harmonized their laws with Codex Alimentarius making it their de facto law. This has already been approved by the European Union, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and others.
  5. Codex Alimentarius allows significant trade sanctions to be levied against noncompliant nations.
  6. In 2005 there were five bills submitted to congress to weaken or eliminate DSHEA.

The teleseminar below is an interview with two highly qualified observers. They are well educated in the details of Codex Alimentarius, Western medicine, and the manipulation of public opinion. Check it out. Pass it along to your friends.

It was only through the awareness and actions of the American consumers that DSHEA was passed in 1994. We encourage you to read and listen to all you can about this topic and develop your own opinion.




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Constructed by the pharmaceutical industry, the Codex Alimentarius Commission is a self-proclaimed expert organization that has allied with the World Health Organization (WHO) and the World Food Organization (FAO). From the beginning, this was done with the intention of passing regulations and laws to protect the global pharmaceutical market.

Of the 30 committees using the title "Codex Alimentarius," those involved with food supplements and vitamins are of particular interest to the pharmaceutical industry. The central committee is the "Codex Committee on Nutrition and Foods for Special Dietary Uses." A puppet of the pharmaceutical industry, this committee has only been concerned with one topic since the middle of the 1990's: how to prevent vitamins and other food supplements from causing the collapse of the markets for beta-blockers, calcium antagonists, cholesterol lowering products and other widely superfluous pharmaceutical preparations.

By far, Germany is the biggest exporter of these dubious pharmaceutical products and nowhere else in the world exists such a bond between the pharmaceutical industry and politics. Therefore it is no surprise that the Government of the German Federal Republic is in charge of this committee, benefiting the pharmaceutical cartel.

The aims of Codex Alimentarius are clearly defined: Statements on the curative effects of vitamins and other natural remedies will be banned and made a punishable offense. In the future, the distinction between a foodstuff and a medicine will be made by the pharmaceutical industry itself and not by governments.

Using this new legislative edict, the pharmaceutical industry will extend its own markets as it sees fit. At present, the pharmaceutical industry has succeeded in classifying 500 milligrams of vitamin C in pill form as a medication requiring a prescription in Germany. If the pharmaceutical industry had its way, 100 mg or even 50 mg of vitamin C would be classified as medication.

The pharmaceutical industry knows that most people have no understanding of these restrictions and has disguised them with legal jargon.

The strategic aims of "Codex Alimentarius"

  1. The distribution of health information concerning vitamins, amino acids, minerals and other natural products for the prevention and treatment of diseases will be banned globally.
  2. The sale of vitamins and other natural products which exceed the guidelines of this Codex commission (which are arbitrary and far too low) will be prohibited globally.
  3. Countries that fail to apply these laws will be punished by international economic sanctions.

To mask its actual intention of protecting the world market of superfluous pharmaceutical preparations, those responsible for Codex have invented exculpatory statements: Thus the next Codex Alimentarius conference will occur at the "Federal Office for Health-related Consumer Protection" in Berlin in November of 2002. In addition to the "consumer protection" from alleged "harmful side effects" of vitamins, a need for united international administration of the pharmaceutical industry was indicated.

The fact that the pharmaceutical industry believes that this disguised justification will be unacceptable is clearly evident since Codex plans to punish all those who oppose its plans with economic sanctions by the UN.

Our response: Talk to as many people as possible about these irresponsible plans and let the members of the Codex commission and their delegates know what you think.

http://innovativehealing.com/topics/codex/codex_1-14-06_1.mp3
http://innovativehealing.com/topics/codex/codex_1-14-06_2.mp3
http://innovativehealing.com/topics/codex/codex_1-14-06_3.mp3
http://innovativehealing.com/topics/codex/codex_1-14-06_4.mp3
http://innovativehealing.com/topics/codex/codex_1-14-06_5.mp3









But by all means, don't listen to me, listen to the hundreds of physicians, M.Ds, etc (i.e the expert) that actually CARE about the well-being of the populace, who are WELL INFORMED on the subject. My mom who is the head nurse of a major hospital is the one who brought this to my attention in the first place. But she doesn't have a vested interest in the pharmaceutical industry.

So yeah.. call me names for trying to inform people of a serious topic if you will, but there's more evidence out there that Codex is working for nefarious purposes than not.

Bottom line is, there is a SHITLOAD of information about this out there, but I'm not going to hand feed it to you.

But if someone has the info, I'd LOVE for you to SHOW me that ALL this is all bullshit, instead of just spouting some one-liner about how its bullshit. SORRY BUT THATS NOT CONVINCING :shrug:


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of tox [Re: Shroomism]
    #6560266 - 02/12/07 10:48 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

goddamn dude..another good post.


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of tox [Re: TheCow]
    #6560331 - 02/12/07 11:00 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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So you are saying that all milk is made in this way? Therefore all milk is disgusting and goes bad within 5 days? I dont see that as the case at all




No. As of right now we have the choice between milk with rBGH and milk that is just milk (even though some companies get away with selling unlabeled rBGH milk). But under Codex law, ALL milk would be treated and ALL cows would be given the hormones and antibiotics. There would be no choice. It would be the LAW.

That's just milk.

Also, vitamins/herbs etc, would be prescription based only, or illegal altogether.

And that's only the tip of the iceberg.

You think the war on drugs is stupid and illogical? You haven't seen shit yet. How about the war on health and nutrition?


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of tox [Re: Shroomism]
    #6560375 - 02/12/07 11:07 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Keep in mind. Any research to validate these claims is paid for by Big Pharma so that eliminates all credibility.

Vitamins/herbs legally can't be admitted into the FDA. They say that "only a drug in inteded to treat disease"

natural substances cannot be patented. You can only patent a process or something that has been created. The FDA will not admit anything unless it has a patent.

I am not as familiar with CODEX as I am the FDA. But I can tell you one thing. They are both HUGE tools for Big Pharma.


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of tox [Re: daytripper05]
    #6560400 - 02/12/07 11:12 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

you're not going to find these claims posted on the Codex website.. that would be pretty retarded of them. However, you can view a list of all the deadly pesticides that are allowed in your food as part of the "Official Standards" (It's a long list..). Yeah, Codex Alimentarius is concerned about public health my ass. They are concerned about the fucking industry ($$$$), not public health.

This is based on over 12,000 pages of written documents from Codex, much of which has slipped through congress. Studied by the professionals and broken down for us common folk.

You control food, you control people, you control the world.


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of tox [Re: Shroomism]
    #6560422 - 02/12/07 11:18 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

How can they make vitamins and minerals illegal when we can still get them from their natural sources? That would mean pretty much all food (especially fruits and veggies) would be prescription drugs? :lol:

They best not take calcium filled OJ off the market. :evil:


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of tox [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #6560440 - 02/12/07 11:20 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

You could still get them from natural sources.. but how many people do you know that grow their own food? They would essentially have total control of every piece of food that goes through a grocery store or major farm. And should the US become "Codex compliant", farmers that don't follow Codex standards would be put out of business.


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of tox [Re: Shroomism]
    #6560441 - 02/12/07 11:20 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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You control food, you control people, you control the world.




I'll add to this.

If you can control the chemicals going into food not only do you control the things that you mentioned.

But you also control the health. You can add toxins that have been proven to make people sick. In tern you make the natural substance prescription or illegal all together and the only choice is to take prescription medications...which also make you even more sick.

It's cruel world we are living in then the price of a dollar(or whatever currency) is worth more than the health of the nation/world.


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Re: STOP CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - The criminalization of vitamins and minerals, and proliferation of tox [Re: daytripper05]
    #6560444 - 02/12/07 11:22 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Exactly. That is the major reasoning behind all of this.
The pharmaceutical industry does not profit from people being healthy.
Herbs and vitamins are the enemy.
Pesticides, disease, poisons, and denatured and irradiated foods treated with growth hormones and other unnatural chemicals are your friend.


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