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Identification required please: Amanitas?
    #854489 - 08/31/02 06:00 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Was just scouring the parks over here in Northern Ireland to see if the Liberty Caps were starting yet, and I noticed some of these mushrooms. Just wondering whether I've stumbled across fly agaric, or if not what have I found?





(Sorry about the poor image quality, it's only a cheap camera.)
Any ideas? Thanks in advance.


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Re: Identification required please: Amanitas? [Re: cookdandbombd]
    #854526 - 08/31/02 06:38 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Erm... Not Amanitas, they appear to be some species of Russla. The thing that makes me think this is the absense of a veil and the little peices of broken mushroom I see laying near them. Was it a very fragile and brittle mushroom?

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Re: Identification required please: Amanitas? [Re: Gumby]
    #854535 - 08/31/02 06:44 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah they are pretty brittle.  Ah well, I'll have to keep looking :laugh:  Thanks for the info.


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Re: Identification required please: Amanitas? [Re: cookdandbombd]
    #855066 - 08/31/02 01:09 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

GumbyDude has it. Those certainly look like Russula.

Russulas (and Lactarius) can be quickly IDed to their family by checking the stem, which will snap like a piece of chalk (unlike most mushrooms). The tissue tends to be brittle and often crumbly, not fibrous.

Amanitas should have a cup-like structure around the base of the stem. In some species it won't be very cup-like, instead being a bulbous enlargement or rings of scaly tissue at the base of the stem. Also, they will have free, white (or nearly white) gills, and the stem almost always separates easily from the cap and gills. Once you've found a few you'll start being able to recognize the genus often by the general appearance of the mushroom. Identification to species can be more difficult, although Amanita muscaria is not one of the difficult ones.

If you're considering eating any Amanita, make sure you identify it to species and be very sure. The majority of fatal mushroom poisonings are due to Amanita, making it one of the worst general to experiment with. If possible, have an experienced mycologist identify your Amanita for you. Mycological societies and colleges are good sources of expert mycologists.


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Re: Identification required please: Amanitas? [Re: ToxicMan]
    #855989 - 08/31/02 11:28 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Many thanks for all the info and advice Toxicman.  I've decided that I will try eating the Fly Agaric this year, but will make sure I identify them correctly before consumption. 

I just wish the Liberty Caps would start, although it shouldn't be long now as this week I have noticed a lot of miscellanous LBM's growing (and 1 single solitary Lib Cap), whereas this time last week there was a real scarcity of ANY type of mushroom.  It's been too hot and sunny over here, we need some rain :laugh:


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Re: Identification required please: Amanitas? [Re: cookdandbombd]
    #856131 - 09/01/02 02:46 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

totally not an Amanita. Missing the bulbous egg sac at the bottom. Stipe is way to fat. Even the cap is wrong. I would say this is definitely in the Russula family (not active, nor edible)


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