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A few Amanita's...
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On my hunt today, the only mushrooms I found of interest were in the Amanita genus. I'll start off with some edible Amanita's known as the Coccoli, or Amanita calyptrata, which are very closely related to Amanita caesarea.






Next we have the well known A. muscaria. It was the only specimen I found. Something tells me that there are whole lot more right behind.


Here's a coral mushroom


Here are some luminescent Jack-O-Lantern mushrooms. I would like to go and take some pictures of these at night.


Here is a "Sand Amanita". Notice it is growing in sand. :wink:


There were thousands of Mycena growing along the forest floor, so I had to take at least one picture of them


More images to come in the next few days.

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: angryshroom]
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Nice photos. It's been a while since we've had a good "non-active" photo album here.

Are you going to eat those edibles? If yes, what do they taste like?

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: Stymee]
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nice pictures angryshroom! I was out in a redwood preserve yesterday and found thousands of those Mycena or something that looked them. I also found some yellow amanitas that look like A. Musrcaria, I thought they were death caps. None of the pictures came out correctly though because of lighting and the batterys running out in my camera.


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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: Stymee]
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Thanks guys.

The A. calyptrata is noted by Arora as: "Edible and popular, but with a rather strong, fishy flavor that doesn't appeal to everyone."

He also states that they are very appealing to many people however.

I didn't collect any of the specimens so I wont be eating them. Something about eating an Amanita just doesn't seem right to me. :smile:

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: angryshroom]
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More amazing pictures angry. :smile:
The Jack-O-Lanterns look a lot different on the west coast.

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: Gumby]
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nice photos. do the luminescent Jack-O-Lantern mushrooms glow in the dark?


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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: angryshroom]
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Nice mushrooms and photos of them.

I understand completely about the edible Amanitas. I found a motherlode of them this year (Amanita populiphila) and didn't eat any. Once you know about the consequences of a mistake, it's tough to go ahead and eat some that you know are OK. I even verified them microscopically.

Your Amanitas are a bit too close to some varieties of Amanita phalloides for my tastes. At least Amanita populiphila is one of the exannulate Amanitas, a feature which makes it very different from the deadly species.

Happy mushrooming!

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: angryshroom]
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how is it you manage to find A. muscaria south of me when i have to go 200 miles north to find them?


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Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it.
If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: canid]
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Hmmph. I dont know... :laugh:

I've noticed that they really like pine mixed with some oak. Of course, I DO live right on the coast...which might have something to do with it.

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: angryshroom]
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i'm sure it does :laugh:.

it's ok, i'll have that large beachfront property sooner or later.


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Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it.
If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: wookie]
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Since no-one else has picked up on this I will (I'm no expert).Those yellow a.muscaria are very probably a.muscaria variant formosa,a yellow capped muscaria similar in appearance to both the amanita and pantherina.Any advice on "active status" anyone? :rolleyes:


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"Odrade read the word silently and then aloud.
"Arafel."
She knew this word.Reverend Mothers of the tyrants time had impressed it into the Bene Gesserit consciousness,tracing it's roots to the most ancient sources.
"Arafel:the cloud darkness at the end of the universe.""

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Re: A few Amanita's... *DELETED* [Re: canid]
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Post deleted by Lonewolf


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"Odrade read the word silently and then aloud.
"Arafel."
She knew this word.Reverend Mothers of the tyrants time had impressed it into the Bene Gesserit consciousness,tracing it's roots to the most ancient sources.
"Arafel:the cloud darkness at the end of the universe.""

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: Silverwolf]
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Did you possibly respond in the wrong thread? There is only one photo of Amanita muscaria up there, and it's red capped.

The yellowish capped Amanitas at the top are an edible species, Amanita calyptrata. There is also a photo of an Amanita growing in sand, Amanita baccata.

Incidentally, according to Rod Tulloss (the current expert on Amanitas in North America), the correct name for Amanita muscaria var. formosa (as it has been called in countless books) is Amanita muscaria var. guessowii. As you can read from his page on that variety, it contains the same toxins as the other varieities of Amanita muscaria.

The biggest issue with using the non-red capped Amanita muscarias is identification. There are a lot of very similar Amanitas, many of them as yet unnamed and unstudied. Considering that the genus Amanita is responsible for something around 95% of all fatal mushroom poisonings, experimenting with potentially unknown species of Amanita is probably not very wise.

If you (or anybody, actually) decide that you're going to experiment with them, keep some fresh specimens in a bag in your refrigerator. If you get sick enough to go to the emergency room, take those specimens with you. They can be shown to an expert mycologist who can then make sure they're identified accurately. This will help the doctors know how to treat you medically.

As far as using Amanita muscaria or one of the closely related species as an active mushroom, I can tell you that out of many people I have spoken with who have actually tried them, all but one have said that it was very unpleasant and they wouldn't do it again.

Happy mushrooming!

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: Silverwolf]
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Yup, what TM said :smile:

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: angryshroom]
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No man,read the Wookie's post!


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"Odrade read the word silently and then aloud.
"Arafel."
She knew this word.Reverend Mothers of the tyrants time had impressed it into the Bene Gesserit consciousness,tracing it's roots to the most ancient sources.
"Arafel:the cloud darkness at the end of the universe.""

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: Silverwolf]
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Also would it not be true to say that the active amanita species supposedly,although this is frequently not the case, retain fragments of their veil on their caps (as the famous white
"spots") whilst the other species tend not to?Some of the amanitas pictured above do look suspiciously like phalloides although the only one I can remember seeing was a darker green.(However guys we can all make mistakes,see next post on "British Indigenous"). :nonono: :nonono:


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"Odrade read the word silently and then aloud.
"Arafel."
She knew this word.Reverend Mothers of the tyrants time had impressed it into the Bene Gesserit consciousness,tracing it's roots to the most ancient sources.
"Arafel:the cloud darkness at the end of the universe.""

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: Silverwolf]
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Those veil fragments can also wash of in the rain.


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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: Silverwolf]
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The white warts on the mushrooms are easily removed with your finger, or anything really.

I have seen many many many A. muscaria with the warts that have been wiped off by the rain. When I took these pictures, we had JUST had a heavy rain the night before. I could actually see the warts on the pine needles right beneath the mushroom cap. I think I actually have a picture from last year with the warts on the debris as well.

The mushrooms in the first few pictures are 100% A. calyptrata. I have friends who hunt this area and have all talked about these mushrooms. Its a very common and well known species here...As well as the A. muscaria.

Lonewolf, if I was unsure about this, I would have said by now. I know things about the mushrooms I have seen year after year.

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: canid]
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Here are the entheogenic species of the Amanita Family from my paper with Guzm?n and Gartz

11. Amanita muscaria (L. : Fr.) Hook. with several forms, subspecies or varieties, as A. muscaria ssp. muscaria, ssp. americana (Lange) Singer, ssp. flavivolvata Singer [= var. flavivolvata (Singer) Jenkins], ssp. kamtschatica (Langsd. : Fr.) Singer var. alba Peck, var. formosa (Pers..: Fr.) Bertillon, and var. persicina Jenkins (see Singer, 1986, Jenkins, 1977, 1986 and Castro, 1998) (Fig. 18) (see below var. regalis as A. regalis

12. A. pantherina (DC. : Fr.) P. Kumm. with varieties, as var. mutisquamosa (Peck) Jenkins, var. pantherinoides (Murrill) Jenkins and var. velatipes (Atkinson) Jenkins (see Jenkins, 1977)

13. A. regalis (Fr.) Michael [= A. muscaria var. regalis (Fr.) Bartillon]


mjshroomer fromthe list of 212 entheogenic mushroom species worldwide.

mj

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: angryshroom]
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It's O.K angryshroom (no really it is) I realised after I had posted that you had identified them (editing can be a bit of a bugger with only a 100mhz processor).They seem paler than the ,only, phalloides that I've seen,as I said.As for a.muscaria yeah I've seen all sorts of shapes,sizes and colours (I swear that many of those I picked this year were orange),with and without spots!A.muscaria morphology is interesting,a discussion on it could run hand in hand with one on the mycorrhizal acivity of a.pantherina and it's variants.Do we have a diffinitive list of all the tree species with which the active amanitas are mycorrhizal?  :print:


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"Odrade read the word silently and then aloud.
"Arafel."
She knew this word.Reverend Mothers of the tyrants time had impressed it into the Bene Gesserit consciousness,tracing it's roots to the most ancient sources.
"Arafel:the cloud darkness at the end of the universe.""

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: Silverwolf]
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Do we have a diffinitive list of all the tree species with which the active amanitas are mycorrhizal?


I'm not aware of such a list (a definitive one, anyway). There is a list in David Arora's book, up near the front. Moser mentions when a species is limited to association with a certain species or genus of plants.

Happy mushrooming!

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: ToxicMan]
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This is an important subject check on "British Indigenous" thread for further discussion (once I get sorted for it).


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"Odrade read the word silently and then aloud.
"Arafel."
She knew this word.Reverend Mothers of the tyrants time had impressed it into the Bene Gesserit consciousness,tracing it's roots to the most ancient sources.
"Arafel:the cloud darkness at the end of the universe.""

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: angryshroom]
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hey Angry, looks nice.

About the same as what I found on my yearly pilgramige to northern california.

I found two dozen Amanita Muscaria, some Boletus Edulis (most were already rotting, and overly soaked... DAMN!!!!!), six pounds of Chantrells, some interesting stuff, and billions of Mycena all over the forrest floor... Will post pics on my own thread as soon as i find my camera plug. (misplaced it...)

:smile:

cheers, happy hunting!


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Political language -true of all political parties- is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give solidity to pure wind..

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: Seril]
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Yeah, thats awsome.

I haven't gone out nearly enough this year. Im just going to be kicking myself in the ass in a few months.

I think I missed the Boletes...Chantrelles dont usually pop up around our area until Jan/Feb.

I need to go out again. Only been out like 4 times this year! The surfs been too good to miss though :wink:

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: canid]
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I don't know where you live but I'm in Louisiana and they are real happy hear, at least var. formosa, the yellow /orange

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: ToxicMan]
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Thats interesting toxic man. I have yet to experience it myself but I have relly done my research on this mushroom and have read maybe two places that mention unplesant experience. there are like three stages to this trip. 1st depends on the method of ingestion but almost everyone has to blow, its part of the religious/cleansing experience. 2nd you have to allow time for the drowsy feeling that is coming most experts say don't fight this lay down and take about a 1-2 hous nap that will usually produce very vivid dreams that many have reported when awakening feeling like they wake up in the dream. 3rd and last is what we all are looking for the euphoric state that last antwhere from 4-10 hours. the intesity of the trip depends on how much you eat. most recomend starting with 2 caps (which is where most of the active stuff is) to see how potent the batch is.

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Re: A few Amanita's... [Re: thujone]
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Inever"blow",I can only think that this comes about as a result of bad preparation (of both the fungi and yourself!).Ive been building to dealing with this subject more or less since I first logged in,or so it would seem,and I will but on "British Indigenous".For now all I will say isdrythem properly (in quarters,eighths,or sixteenths depending on their size-method to follow-) and chew each portion seperately and thoroughly,the taste is not unpleasant-once dry-,and take no more than 3-4 portions to start with to guage your reaction and tolerance.  :devil:


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"Odrade read the word silently and then aloud.
"Arafel."
She knew this word.Reverend Mothers of the tyrants time had impressed it into the Bene Gesserit consciousness,tracing it's roots to the most ancient sources.
"Arafel:the cloud darkness at the end of the universe.""

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