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belief is insane
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truth requires no belief. perhaps the seeming realness of a delusion is decided on by the density of belief surrounding whatever mindshadows are coating the collective consciousness. that is why so many conceptual projections have taken over and caused quite a slurry of a whoops da dink, from simple relationships to societal order to war. when is belief dandy? perhaps to create psychosomatic realities? is that in itself not insane? really, is insane insane? but ya, belief...what a silly thing

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Re: belief is insane [Re: MokshaIs]
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Get ready to have an ass ramming of equivical fallacies to cannote your words to other people's logic.

Oh yeah, about spirituality... I fucking agree with you.


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Re: belief is insane [Re: MokshaIs]
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Did you just finish watching the movie Dogma? If not, you might want to give it a try.


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Re: belief is insane [Re: Seuss]
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Taking truth as synonymous with being enlightened/awakened. Truth is ONE.

So then there is no meeting between beliefs/mind & truth, beliefs are false concepts, they are for or against whatever the object of belief is.

That is why so many people claim they want enlightenment yet are always chasing it, they wish for they're minds to be enlightened, they have this mental vision of what enlightenment is & is not, point blank ridiculous! I cant reiterate it enough, your mind can not be enlightened, it can work in service to enlightenment but it can not "become" enlightened!!! The mind is the very thing keeping you from enlightenment, is this not obvious?

The thought "i am not enlightened"...is this not the mind saying this?

The thought "i wish MY mind to be enlightened" is pure egocentricity.


All enlightenment is, is realising there is no single individual entity to become enlightened, it is realisation that "me" "mind" are all false ideas we hold to be our true indentity and then fully dissolving these false identities into the truth of oneness.

Enlightenment is everything, complete & total acceptance of everything as ONE. There can be no if whys buts or maybes.

Stop right now and throw away your minds beliefs.

Say this to most and the ego-mind runs away with its tail between its legs....but then who is this false belief that is scared? Truth is scared of nothing!


Osho

"anyone who gives you a belief system is your enemy"

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Re: belief is insane [Re: Chronic7]
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The only thing is when you let go of beliefs you realise humanity is living in insanity, yet you appear to be the insane one! :lol:

The wise are madmen. Surely anyone who sees good & bad as one must be of his trolly!!!

:peace:


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Re: belief is insane [Re: Chronic7]
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yet, can't belief be quite dandy... If I were to believe with the totality of my being that I could levitate, would I? to muster up this belief may take years, decades, lifetimes of discipline, yet, couldn't it be? Or is all belief completely insane? is it wisest to abandon all belief and strive to merely see reality as it is? yet, then what of our manipulation of the ether? if we are to stand back and see reality as it is, does that not take away our capability to manifest the reality we so choose and deem fit? perhaps seeing reality as it is makes this more possible, maybe not? when can beliefs be dandy? perhaps truly believing in Jesus, yet this, according to some, amplifies the polarity and may just create an equivalent evil. belief in one thing automatically amps up its polar opposite? so the best is to not believe? hmmmm... it is goose :etbig:


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Re: belief is insane [Re: MokshaIs]
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so...what do ya'll believe in?


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Re: belief is insane [Re: MokshaIs]
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I believe liberation isn't attained, it's respected... and I think this world needs to respect the liberation of our human minds and be one with the animals and the Earth and God... and with the way things are nowadays subdue the whole process of due respect for people in general.

nuff said


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Re: belief is insane [Re: MokshaIs]
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Insanity is what this whole trip is founded on!



Terence McKenna eloquently expresses in words the divinity of insanity. I must say I agree with him pretty strongly! :mushroom2:


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Re: belief is insane [Re: Ginseng1]
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In your case I agree.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: belief is insane [Re: Icelander]
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anything that could or would already is, was, or shall... therefore

i believe in everything



              :stoneowl:


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Re: belief is insane [Re: MokshaIs]
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Belief cannot be insane - nor sane. Belief is.

To believe belief is insane, would be insane.

Since belief IS - it cannot take one part of a conceptual duality, without pervading the other.

For example, "I believe all beliefs are relative" Can and must - to be rational - must be universal and related to all beliefs, otherwise it becomes a figment of the imagination.


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The mind is a creative tool. It searches to protect you, through message sensations(feelings). It is no different than a computer, you need to make sure its anti-virus program is in check and that it doesnt have a script that limits your experience, because of to much precaution.

And remember the computer does not appear to respond to words of anger and frustration - just give it input, in the form of new meanings that you know to be true and its messages to you and the limits it lays out for you, will change.

Guilt is an outcome of believing you are the cause of the problems.

Yet, we are not a cause to something, we see is negative or bad - Unless you believe your intentions are directed towards a bad outcome....

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Re: belief is insane [Re: JoseLibrado]
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Quote:
Belief cannot be insane - nor sane. Belief is.


alas, interpretation is the undoing.
is there anything that is not?


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Re: belief is insane [Re: MokshaIs]
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yes - What Is not can be attributed to statements like; Belief is insane or I am the best or I am smarter


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The mind is a creative tool. It searches to protect you, through message sensations(feelings). It is no different than a computer, you need to make sure its anti-virus program is in check and that it doesnt have a script that limits your experience, because of to much precaution.

And remember the computer does not appear to respond to words of anger and frustration - just give it input, in the form of new meanings that you know to be true and its messages to you and the limits it lays out for you, will change.

Guilt is an outcome of believing you are the cause of the problems.

Yet, we are not a cause to something, we see is negative or bad - Unless you believe your intentions are directed towards a bad outcome....

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Re: belief is insane [Re: JoseLibrado]
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boom ego boom

tell us tell us adn tell us some more!


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Re: belief is insane [Re: allisthesame]
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so nothing is anything, it just is?
sounds dandy to me.:ooo:

yet...what of goose? it is, after all, the essence of eternity....wait... slurp da dink.

aren't statements of finality silly?


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Re: belief is insane [Re: MokshaIs]
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Everything is silly.


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Re: belief is insane [Re: allisthesame]
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:
allisthesame said:
Everything is silly.

:tripping:
beautifully beyond conceptualization to! :ooo:


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Re: belief is insane [Re: MokshaIs]
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And yet it's so fun to conceptulize.


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Re: belief is insane [Re: allisthesame]
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dangerous to.
impeccability with the word is a good quality. the infinite potentiality from which all concepts spring...there's the dance floor of creation! :hamsterdance: :monkeydance:


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