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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Ecstasy and your body..
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Tell me, the down and up side of Ecstasy...


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:cool: Fair is Fair :devil:

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Re: Ecstasy and your body.. [Re: Brainiac]
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the up, you love everything, and everyone, and i do mean EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE, although that may be on the down to..

the down, it is an altered molecule of meth, first you make meth, then you make the meth into X, yea meth.........


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If you always do what you always did you always get what you always got.

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Re: Ecstasy and your body.. [Re: Brainiac]
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Ecstasy messes with your serotonin reuptake pumps. It causes them to flood the synapse with serotonin from reserves inside the cell. This is what causes the effects. After peaking however, the pumps are confused and start to work in reverse. And its not serotonin that goes back into the nerve cell, its dopamine. They start bringing the wrong neurotransmitter back into the cell. Once the dopamine enters the cell, an enzyme called monoamine oxidase starts to break it down. In doing so, it creates hydrogen peroxide. If enough peroxide accumulates then the nerve cell will die. This is how xtc causes brain damage. I need to research the subject more, but it seems that taking a SSRI (in order to clog the serotonin reuptake pumps) before dopamine is pulled in and after the serotonin is released would allow for the full effects of the x to take place without any brain damage. Taking an SSRI about 4-5 hours after dosing should do the trick. A monoamine oxidase inhibitor might also keep the dopamine from becoming peroxide but I am unsure if this is safe as MAOIs in general do not mix well with drugs.

Its a long read but I hope it helps someone.

Also, please note that I'm not a doctor. I study biochemistry and read a lot. I haven't tried this cocktail. If you are going to follow my advice then do some of your own research as well

Edited by ChiefGreenLeaf (04/24/08 09:05 PM)

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Re: Ecstasy and your body.. [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
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I just was wondering..I thank my bother has been doing it.As he doesn't sleep and says he is depressed..That and he says he can get E pills...


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Re: Ecstasy and your body.. [Re: grymmtymm]
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grymmtymm said:
the up, you love everything, and everyone, and i do mean EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE, although that may be on the down to..

the down, it is an altered molecule of meth, first you make meth, then you make the meth into X, yea meth.........


no offense, but that last bit doesn't really help anyone.


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The DJ's took pills to stay awake and play for seven days.

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Re: Ecstasy and your body.. [Re: Brainiac]
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How often does he "not sleep?"

I wouldn't be too concerned with him doing MDMA, there are much worse things he could be doing. I would however, be concerned if this was a frequent thing. Your body is only able to produce so much seratonin, and after that point is when the pills toxicity starts to climb at a much steeper curve.

It is a really great experience, but just make sure everything is good in the hood afterwards. It does make you depressed for a while depending on diet and vitamin intake. This isn't really a long lasting problem, so no worries, but if a depressed person is feeling even more depressed it is pretty helpful to have a solid support system, or atleast someone in the know watching out for them.

If you have an open relationship with your brother I would talk to him about it. Maybe provide him with some literature from erowid.org, buy him some 5htp which is a supliment that helps the brain build seratonin, make sure he knows that the "magic" of these pills are quickly lost, and lost forever if you do not space them out, and if he wants to enjoy them for a lifetime he needs to use them responsibly or else he will be left with a hollow hole in his heart that only echoes a memory of bliss.

Try to be friends about it to, tell him to let you know when he is rolling. It is nice to have someone watch your back to keep other family off your back and run diversion, aswell as make sure you stay out of trouble, and keep things safe...not to mention its nice to talk to loved ones when rolling.

People are going to do drugs whether you want them to or not. The safest possible thing to do would be take knowledge of it and be there without being condescending. You can look out for someone, and even persuade them to not do something without being so controlling that they want to hide it.

good luck, and I suggest trying it with him one day if you havent already. :smile:


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Re: Ecstasy and your body.. [Re: tak]
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The guy could be getting pills pressed with meth?


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Re: Ecstasy and your body.. [Re: learningtofly]
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As far a food goes.

If its not deep fried, he wont eat it.With five to six Dr peppers a day. I'm a pro-cook. So, I know deep fried food isn't bad for you, when done right.But, eating it every meal can't be good for you..When you try to talk to him about it he gets real mad.So, I don't ask or talk.. There's only so much, I can do.

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