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    #828829 - 08/19/02 07:40 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

are their any agar formulas that dont require agar?

I mean can you get similar results by using gelatin and a nutrient ritch liquid?


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Re: agar agar. [Re: GabbaDj]
    #828854 - 08/19/02 07:54 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

gelatine doesn't work, the mycelium digests it into goo. You could try any kind of flour paste, mixed to a pourable consistency and PC'ed.
I used to use wheat flour paste with acceptable results, but after trying agar I'd never go back.
You can get cheap agar-agar powder in most health food stores for cheap, so unless getting agar is impossible I'd recommend going for that.


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Re: agar agar. [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #828973 - 08/19/02 08:43 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I thought I read somewhere that agar agar won't work because it's not nutritious. Any validity to this?!?!

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Re: agar agar. [Re: Visigoth]
    #829000 - 08/19/02 08:52 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

which is why agar formulas contain added nutrients eg malt extract, dextrose, yeast, potato or a mix of several.


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Re: agar agar. [Re: Visigoth]
    #829001 - 08/19/02 08:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Agar agar is only the base. You still need to add nutrients. Check out these recipes.


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Re: agar agar. [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #829008 - 08/19/02 08:57 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Damn... I guess a trip to the health food store (1hr) is better than waiting for agar in the mail...


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Re: agar agar. [Re: GabbaDj]
    #829077 - 08/19/02 09:32 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I've used prepared bacterialogical grade PDA and home made PDA, and they both work well. In fact, the only advantage that I have seen with the prepared PDA was the end clarity of the agar mixture.


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Re: Beer Agar.... [Re: GabbaDj]
    #830800 - 08/20/02 05:43 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Ok so I made the trip and got some agar, 2 oz worth.
I also got Wheat Gluten, some fresh ground wheat flower and some natural honey.

What about using beer in the mix? I plan on doing this all tomorrow and if nobody tells me its a BAD idea Ima gona try using 1/2 dark beer with active yeasts and 1/2 wates also just an all beer method with B+ spores....

Anyone try using beer as liqued before?


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Re: Beer Agar.... [Re: GabbaDj]
    #830807 - 08/20/02 05:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

50/50 mix of beer/water with 1g of agar agar per 50ccs works good.


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Re: Beer Agar.... [Re: GabbaDj]
    #830878 - 08/20/02 06:32 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Haven't you ever heard anyone refer to beer as liquid bread before?


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Re: Beer Agar.... [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #831215 - 08/20/02 08:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

That's a common german saying. Ahhh thank god for Oktoberfest, only place where being drunk on carnival rides, puking, and then eating some sausage isn't just for overweight middleaged men.


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