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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: raw spiritual rambling [Re: dorkus]
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dorkus said:
Maybe I misunderstand you here, but wouldn't counting the breath be a good way to stay centered? I sometimes let there be counting and at the same time concentrate on listening to the counts, coming from that empty field that the counting fills... And when I succeed it definitely feels like going deep.


Yeah.... you definitely misunderstood her.


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: raw spiritual rambling [Re: fireworks_god]
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I think we need to really understand fewer things.
we can express something in passing that carries wit meaning and innuendo, but the stuff that is valuable is not witty.

the stealing of glances is a great phrase for little flashes of fleeting enlightenment.

but I would totally avoid getting a brain cramp about the feet getting lost unless you have a lot of weight reduction planned.


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Re: raw spiritual rambling [Re: redgreenvines]
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redgreenvines said:
I think we need to really understand fewer things.
we can express something in passing that carries wit meaning and innuendo, but the stuff that is valuable is not witty.




I agree, wit & understanding are attachments of the mind, concepts. Ive found the only way to free the mind, is to be free of the mind. The mind can capture great insights & understanding & wit, yet they pass, abiding in the place where all arises & passes is transcending the minds attachments, then true understanding comes from that place where you watch without judgement or attachment. So in a way true understanding is not trying to understand, seeing things for what they are not what you already "understand" them to be.

Interpretation ruins everything when concerned with inner peace, the mind trys to interpret and place things in neat little boxes for future reference.

Throwing everything away is the easiest way to awakening imo, even if you find some amazing truth in meditation just throw it away, even the most blissfull joy of orgasmic ecstacy, stay as the watcher of even that...

:peace:


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Walk this waay... [Re: redgreenvines]
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yes and no;
when you say "be free of the mind", you are being witty.
this wittiness points to self and mind as separate.

mind and self are not separate, so an adjustment towards simpler meaning is
"be free in mind"

this approach intends that there be peace instead of apprehension upon noticing:
more than half of what is noticed is secondary mental artifacts.

who can really say that the sense of self is not a bunch of secondary mental artifacts.(<- unnecessary witty comment)


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Re: Walk this waay... [Re: redgreenvines]
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i think we gotta let go of the half of us that wants to learn everything towards letting our other half go unknown without expecting to talk about these unknown things with other people...we gotta remember the half's that made us whole, it doesn't matter what order

me and you were born on this earth together, you can change me but I can't change you


if you feel like any sort of conflict between humans is too much and impossible to deal with you'll be happy to know the rest of the world feels the same


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I have considered such matters.

SIKE

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Re: Walk this waay... [Re: Cherk]
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I am not sure what you are getting at.
being as a child or as a student is excellent.

but the idea about conflict kind of rings true except for vikings and wolves in sheeps' clothing.


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Re: Walk this waay... [Re: redgreenvines]
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hmmmmm...i mean to say we stop making sense when making sense is not necessary

i can try to show you your mind and its process of contemplation by saying things that are not necessary that aren't supposed to make sense

i gotta put 1 million nails in 1 million coffins

because today, men are no longer men


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I have considered such matters.

SIKE

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Re: Walk this waay... [Re: Cherk]
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the simple fact is god doesn't expect us to be this stupid and ignorant


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I have considered such matters.

SIKE

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Re: Walk this waay... [Re: Cherk]
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Then live up to his expectations and spare us all.


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Walk this waay... [Re: fireworks_god]
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i can't do that without insulting you first...right?


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I have considered such matters.

SIKE

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Re: Walk this waay... [Re: Cherk]
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You insulted the entire Shroomery :sad:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: Walk this waay... [Re: MushroomTrip]
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what did I do?


if we want gods grace surely our love for cute and fuzzy things must go first


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I have considered such matters.

SIKE

Edited by Cherk (04/13/08 02:40 PM)

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Re: Walk this waay... [Re: Cherk]
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cherokee said:
hmmmmm...i mean to say we stop making sense when making sense is not necessary

i can try to show you your mind and its process of contemplation by saying things that are not necessary that aren't supposed to make sense

i gotta put 1 million nails in 1 million coffins

because today, men are no longer men


:crazy2:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Walk this waay... [Re: Cherk]
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cherokee said:
the simple fact is god doesn't expect us to be this stupid and ignorant


:monkeydance: And you know what "God" expects how?

IMO your post is evidence that your post is invalid.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Walk this waay... [Re: Icelander]
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i talk to god


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I have considered such matters.

SIKE

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Re: Walk this waay... [Re: Cherk]
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yes I know but meds are available if one chooses to get better.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Walk this waay... [Re: Icelander]
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:lovemeds:


:popcorn:


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: Walk this waay... [Re: Cherk]
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it's ok to talk to god,
it gets strange when god talks back to you
but it gets even stranger if that gives you the right to be a bully.
(spanish inquisition time was a really good example of this working really badly)


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Re: Walk this waay... [Re: redgreenvines]
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yeah


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I have considered such matters.

SIKE

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Re: Walk this waay... [Re: redgreenvines]
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"It's ok to talk to RGV."


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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