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Honey and Vermiculite
    #822697 - 08/17/02 02:59 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

if myc* grows alright in just honey and water....

would it be possible to dunk a load of vermiculite in honey/water and jar them?....

obviously u couldnt birth as cakes but u could use them great as starting a Poo casing off, as u do with brf/verm cakes.

am i just bein silly?

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Re: Honey and Vermiculite [Re: Zed]
    #822741 - 08/17/02 04:04 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Interesting Idea... You should try it

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Re: Honey and Vermiculite [Re: Zed]
    #823648 - 08/17/02 12:50 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Why couldn't you birth them? If a block of honey water fully colonizes, what would prevent you from being able to successfully birth it and produce fruits?

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Re: Honey and Vermiculite [Re: stcore]
    #823766 - 08/17/02 01:50 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

A liquid culture WILL produce mycellium, but it will cease all grownth when the nutrients are exhausted... cakes with no nutrients = NO fruitbodies!
Mycellium spawned into new nutrients (eg. Horse Poop) = Lots

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Re: Honey and Vermiculite [Re: Zed]
    #824500 - 08/17/02 06:46 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I think you could use it as a starting medium, probably not the most effective as it will not have the nutrients like a brf cake or rye


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Re: Honey and Vermiculite [Re: Zed]
    #824796 - 08/18/02 01:08 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Well you would have to sterilize it and in a pressure cooker or boiling, it would just burn the hell out of your honey. I would use dextrose which can be found at a home brew shop.

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Re: Honey and Vermiculite [Re: entheo_smurf]
    #824894 - 08/18/02 04:14 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

well u have to sterilize the honey/water for liquid culture anyway so i doubt that would be extra problems doing it with verm.

when these jars i got sitting here finally colonize i might try a few experiments with it

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Re: Honey and Vermiculite [Re: Zed]
    #825006 - 08/18/02 06:21 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Unless you squooge most of the honey water out of the verm I imagine it would take aages to colonise.
Otherwise, an interesting way of producing spawn.
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Re: Honey and Vermiculite [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #825074 - 08/18/02 07:08 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

"Unless you squooge most of the honey water out of the verm I imagine it would take aages to colonise."

Please explain ?

You don't have to "squooge" the water out of a BRF cake. It is required, for colonization as much as the nutrients are.

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Re: Honey and Vermiculite [Re: Shdwstr]
    #826490 - 08/18/02 05:20 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I meant that, just like eg casing material, you would need to squeeze out excess liquid or else I imagine it would take "aages" to colonise, just like overly wet casings or subtrates do.
If, like you suggested, you were just to dunk the vermiculite into honey water and jar it, it would be far too wet. IMHO


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Re: Honey and Vermiculite [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #826691 - 08/18/02 06:48 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I see what you were getting at now... Thanks for clarifying!
When I do a straight Verm casing I simply add H2O2 mixed water to the verm, then add small amounts of verm till its a decent water content. I never considered someone would make it too wet. Heheheh... lost my newbie mindset for a bit

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Re: Honey and Vermiculite [Re: Shdwstr]
    #826885 - 08/18/02 09:10 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

i didnt actually mean Dunk the verm in a puddle of hunny/water, just mix some honey/water into the verm....as u would with the pf tek.

maybe add some perlite to air it out a bit

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