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rh questions with a shotgun fc
    #8024609 - 02/14/08 09:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

using pf tek. I've only grown once and it was successful, but nothing excellent. I cut most of the top out of some tuppaware containers and taped polyfill into it. No fanning or misting. There was always a lot of moisture on the sides but I now know that didn't get enough fae at all.

I just birthed my first cake about 7 hours ago (after dunking in the fridge for 24 hours and rolling). I'm using perlite for humidification but there is absolutely no water drops on the sides. I have no gauge for humidity. With this i was planning on misting at least a few times a day. Will that make it better? I know that won't actually be the moisture in the air, just sprayed onto it and the sides.

I'm worried the rh is much too low. I already don't have a good light at this point so I'm trying to get the rest as best as possible.

Any suggestions? I reckon I could tape up some of the holes if I need to. Or will misting a bunch be sufficient.

ANY HELP IS MUCH APPRECIATED

I've got 3 more cakes dunking right now. hoping not to fuck it all up.


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Re: rh questions with a shotgun fc [Re: ismokeweed]
    #8024646 - 02/14/08 09:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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using pf tek. I've only grown once and it was successful, but nothing excellent. I cut most of the top out of some tuppaware containers and taped polyfill into it. No fanning or misting. There was always a lot of moisture on the sides but I now know that didn't get enough fae at all.







what ?! i cannot picture this statement or its implications .. do you have a pic of ur fc ?


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Re: rh questions with a shotgun fc [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
    #8024668 - 02/14/08 09:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Condensation is not a measure of, nor related to, humidity.

If you have five inches of well drained and fluffed up perlite, and your holes are 1/4", you're fine with a few mistings per day.
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Re: rh questions with a shotgun fc [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
    #8024683 - 02/14/08 09:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I can take a pic of the one I just made. The one in question though was built almost two years ago and we had to shut the whole project down shortly after.

Picture a small container (big enough to hold four half pint jars). We took sparklers (it was right after 4th of july in 06) and cut out most of the top (the blue lid with a little grey handle). Taped a bunch of polyfill in it, put the cakes in there and just waited.

They grew, but not very big. They matured but didn't get as big as hoped.
Due to no fanning and such I think thats why humidity was no problem. It was clearly humid enough in it.

Now I built a shotgun fc (lots of little holes all over it) and I'm worried it won't keep the rh up enough. I will mist a bunch, but thats not true humidity as far as I know. It's not the moisture in the air, just moisture I've added.


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Re: rh questions with a shotgun fc [Re: ismokeweed]
    #8024702 - 02/14/08 09:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

just read rr's answer right after I posted that other one. And now I'm not worried in the least. Thanks everybody.


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Re: rh questions with a shotgun fc [Re: ismokeweed]
    #8024714 - 02/14/08 09:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I will mist a bunch, but thats not true humidity as far as I know. It's not the moisture in the air, just moisture I've added.






Yes, it is. Not only will the added water evaporate into the air, but the moisture that the substrate and fruits themselves absorb, help to prevent them from drying out, which is what high humidity also does.
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Re: rh questions with a shotgun fc [Re: ismokeweed]
    #8024719 - 02/14/08 09:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

im getting a bit of a better picture here .. if its a really small container u have less area to humidify .. are you using perlite ? u need some kind of material to saturate and give off humidity .. go ahead and fruit your cakes in what you got ( container-wise ) check in 24 hours and if you get condensation on the sides of the container your getting at least a workable amount of humidity .. if not try taping a few of the holes up and repeat the experiment ... you should be ok though as long as ur using a humidifying material in the floor of ur fc


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Re: rh questions with a shotgun fc [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
    #8024742 - 02/14/08 09:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

word. I'm not worried. I have nowhere near 5 inches of perlite but my terrarium is only about 8 inches tall. I like to do a bunch of small ones. I'm very scared of contam (even if I shouldn't be since I have very healthy fully colonized cakes) but I like to sepereate them into a few smaller ones with 4 to 5 cakes in each. With the logic that if one is to contaminate it won't spread to all of them, at lest quite as fast.


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Re: rh questions with a shotgun fc [Re: ismokeweed]
    #8024830 - 02/14/08 10:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

haha ok ... youll be fine with les than 5 inches .. i only use 2 myself .. i get killer results nonetheless .. see my pics on the board for urself .. i actually have my perlite floating on 2 inches of mixed water and peroxide to kill contams .. ( perlite floats ) sometimes i use a aquarium pump and airstone submerged under those 2 inches of water to boost humidity and fae at the same time .. i havent put a cake out yet that has been under 7/8 grams dry .. i must be doing something right ! haha .. though i get a lot of the ur lucky comments hahaha .. you got a few on here that dont like to be shown up even though you arent even trying to .. i think youll be fine man .. dont trip off the contamination so much .. cakes are resilient .. casings and tubs are the more likely candidate for those problems ! once you get past the jar stage you really have to fuk up bad to contaminate .. cheers and gl !


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Re: rh questions with a shotgun fc [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
    #8025200 - 02/14/08 11:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry to hijack, but this bit of info would go a long way for some reading this thread...

How long can 5" of perlite be used for in a SGFC?


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