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Offlinezoomery
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case misting question
    #1349340 - 03/04/03 10:11 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Okay. So my cat made his 1st casing out of coir and a little bit of verm to soak up the extra water. When mycelia started appearing in the valleys he induced fruiting.

Well now its 3 days after that and the mycelia is still growing! Its like all over the top, pretty far from overlay, but he cant get it to stop growin. Hopefully it will stop sometime today or tomorrow.

Fanning 4X a day, RH>95%, 12hours of incandescent light a day
but anyways his question is

He cant really tell if the casing layer is dry. Should he start misting it every couple days and if he does, how would he go about it? He started fruiting when it was just poppin through, now its all over the place, pretty uniform. But he cant spray the casing without spraying the mycelium. Will this damage it?

I heard coir also turns back to its original shade of deep red when its starts drying out, is this correct?


Edited by zoomery (03/04/03 10:13 AM)


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Re: case misting question [Re: zoomery]
    #1349527 - 03/04/03 11:10 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I had the same problem. I waited a couple days and it started to pin beautifuly! I gave it a couple of LIGHT mistings during that period. I wouldn't mist to the point that the water would sit on top of the casings.

Check out my post. *****OVERLAY?*****


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Re: case misting question [Re: zoomery]
    #1349542 - 03/04/03 11:16 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

If you get water droplets on the mycilium it will most likelly kill it where the water is. And I have afoaf who does caseings and he keeps th rh at 80%. From his expeiriance he has had overlay at higher humidity.


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Re: case misting question [Re: zoomery]
    #1349561 - 03/04/03 11:23 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

don't mist, just keep your rh up. It will start to fruit soon. You should only mist when the casing starts to pull from the sides of the container, but by then, you should be into your second flush.


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Offlinezoomery
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Re: case misting question [Re: fee]
    #1349748 - 03/04/03 12:34 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

And I have afoaf who does caseings and he keeps th rh at 80%. From his expeiriance he has had overlay at higher humidity.




I thought optimal humidity conditions were 95+ Rh for pin formation


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Re: case misting question [Re: Birdman]
    #1349760 - 03/04/03 12:38 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Oh and Birdman, thats what my casing looks like also... there was just a couple small tiny ass patches poking through when i induced fruiting conditions.

Now its all over the top. Not really layered, but pretty much everywhere.


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Re: case misting question [Re: zoomery]
    #1349768 - 03/04/03 12:40 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

stupid question, but what does rh stand for? don't shun me, please.

:frown:


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Re: case misting question [Re: zoomery]
    #1349811 - 03/04/03 12:53 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

yep i've been told that the casing rh (relative humidity) should be around 80rh
because it takes moisture from the vermiculite or soil coir or whatever your friend cased
the humidity should be as high as 95 when someone is doing cakes


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Re: case misting question [Re: Shroomer_of_Oppression]
    #1349886 - 03/04/03 01:15 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

rh = relative humidity

I lightly mist my casings with h20/h202 several times per day until I see knots forming. A light mist will not kill mycelium.  :wink: 


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Re: case misting question [Re: dog]
    #1349901 - 03/04/03 01:19 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Another dumb question: what is the difference between relative humidity and humidity?  :blush:


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Re: case misting question [Re: Shroomer_of_Oppression]
    #1349915 - 03/04/03 01:23 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Same thing.


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Re: case misting question [Re: zoomery]
    #1349922 - 03/04/03 01:25 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

You will definately be able to tell when coir gets dry by it's color... and I agree, light mistings (with a GOOD spray bottle) are beneficial. I just had some beautiful casings with coir and verm. Good Luck!

oh, and what is your temp at? My friend put's his by the patio door (~60 F) for a night to stop growth.


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Re: case misting question [Re: ClosetCase]
    #1350067 - 03/04/03 02:28 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

temp is like 70F, and I was incubating at 85. So i thought the 15 degree change would be enough of a cold shock.

So am I wrong to keep the RH at 95%? I thought it was sposed to be between 95 and a 100 for primordia formation, and then 80 - 90 after they form.

According to this...
http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23457


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Re: case misting question [Re: ClosetCase]
    #1350075 - 03/04/03 02:31 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

So some very tiny water droplets found on mycelium strands coming out of the casing layer is no big deal?


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Re: case misting question [Re: zoomery]
    #1350099 - 03/04/03 02:41 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Could anybody that is completely postive about this reply asap? I dont want this high humidity i have leading me into an overlay. The guide says 95-100rh for casing pin formation, but it seems a couple people are disagreeing with the guide...

thanks in advance


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Re: case misting question [Re: zoomery]
    #1350294 - 03/04/03 03:56 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: case misting question [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1350359 - 03/04/03 04:27 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I guess you would have to define tiny. Something you would have to get close to see. Like a morning mist on a spider web.



High humidity is what you want... Cold temps slow growth. Do you have a pic?

This amount of mycelium on top is ok...



voila!



sorry, but it's my friend's first grow and he is very happy and proud right now!


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Edited by ClosetCase (03/04/03 04:39 PM)


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Re: case misting question [Re: zoomery]
    #1350361 - 03/04/03 04:28 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I'd say more like 92% rh until pinning.. and then 86%


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Re: case misting question [Re: Shroomism]
    #1350376 - 03/04/03 04:37 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

if there is visible condensation on your casing and no pins, stop misting, and the pins will appear, then start misting again when they appear, if theres is no visible condensation on the casing just keep misting and the pins will eventually form. good luck


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Re: case misting question [Re: Dymentia]
    #1350385 - 03/04/03 04:42 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

No, no , no. Don't mist when you have pins. It will kill them.

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