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Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics)
    #7915054 - 01/22/08 02:58 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

I bought an aquarium bubbler, $13 with tubing and check valve. It's only 35dB so it's very quite. Anyway I dunked a cake, and added a new cake to the FC. The dunked cake is pinning like it did before, but the new cake has one HUGE pin. This is 48 hours after pin appeared (yes, sorry, poor pictures, I'm sorry.)



And here is a picture last from last night, much bigger this morning but no time to snap a picture...




The FC gets FAE around 4 - 8 times a day. Indirect light from sun peaking through window with blinds. I mist every time I FAE, but I'm just not getting the pins I want. This monster is cool with me, but not good enough. The FC already has three holes under the handles on two sides, should I add more? Dunk longer than 12 hours I assume.

Any other insight would be appreciated! Thank you.


Edited by verminute (01/22/08 03:00 PM)


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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: verminute]
    #7915994 - 01/22/08 05:50 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Oppps, forgot to specify my main question.

Since the FC has 6 holes already, adding the aquarium bubbler would be a good replacement for extra holes, yes?


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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: verminute]
    #7916020 - 01/22/08 05:55 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

To answer your question yes and no. No one knows for sure if your bubbler will work as good as holes, but i dont see why it shouldn't. That layer of perlite looks like a skimpy nickel bag man, 5 inches is preferred. Shotgun terrariums are the best and most tested and proven for cakes, maybe you should try one. If you dont know what a shotgun terrarium is, look it up (search engine). Check out my pins with a shotgun, after a 24 hour dunk and roll.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7877282/an/0/page/0


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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: mad genius]
    #7916043 - 01/22/08 05:59 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Cool thanks, I was going to hold off upgrading to shotgun until I move in a couple weeks.


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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: verminute]
    #7916058 - 01/22/08 06:01 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

All you need to upgrade is a drill man. Just use the one you have and put some more holes in that sucker.


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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: mad genius]
    #7916068 - 01/22/08 06:02 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

Cool, thanks for the reply...


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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: verminute]
    #7916116 - 01/22/08 06:10 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

No prob, glad i could help.


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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: mad genius]
    #7916290 - 01/22/08 06:43 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

well your cake has 1 huge pin (probably a few more to come) instead of 20-30 smaller pins

I had results like that on my first grow..it's just that the myc just decided to fruit one mother instead of more smaller ones


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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: Seventy]
    #7916345 - 01/22/08 06:52 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

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well your cake has 1 huge pin (probably a few more to come) instead of 20-30 smaller pins

I had results like that on my first grow..it's just that the myc just decided to fruit one mother instead of more smaller ones




I stopped by my place for lunch, this thing is a monster, I will post a picture tomorrow. It's bigger than the cake. A few other pins but they already appear to be aborts...

Anyway, thanks for the reply. That's what I was looking for, someone with simular results...


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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: verminute]
    #7920229 - 01/23/08 03:20 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I put the monster on a deftones CD, it was larger than CD case, but the picture isn't loading... The cake went back into a dunk.


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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: verminute]
    #7920258 - 01/23/08 03:26 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

I would think and aquarium bubbler and 1 hole down low would be enough


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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: tahoe]
    #7920306 - 01/23/08 03:38 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Indirect light from sun peaking through window with blinds.




Get a bright fluorescent light or leave the blinds open. Increase air exchange. For maximum performance, air exchange and very bright light are the main pinning triggers once full colonization is reached.
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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7920327 - 01/23/08 03:44 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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For maximum performance





what about best quality?


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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7920330 - 01/23/08 03:45 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Indirect light from sun peaking through window with blinds.




Get a bright fluorescent light or leave the blinds open. Increase air exchange. For maximum performance, air exchange and very bright light are the main pinning triggers once full colonization is reached.
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I live in Seattle, it's actually sunny out this week, still cold, but I was scared too much light would get in... How about white t-shirt over the FC with blinds open?


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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: tahoe]
    #7920335 - 01/23/08 03:47 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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I would think and aquarium bubbler and 1 hole down low would be enough




Perfect, thanks Tahoe. Doing tha tonight...


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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: verminute]
    #7920391 - 01/23/08 04:06 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

This is a flush grown in a setup consisting of an aquarium pump+bubbler:

Have a look at this thread for more info:http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7909827/an/0/page/0


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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: Nebula]
    #7920398 - 01/23/08 04:08 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: verminute]
    #7920892 - 01/23/08 05:48 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

tahoe said:
I would think and aquarium bubbler and 1 hole down low would be enough

One hole won't provide FAE in a FC of any size larger than a cigarette pack.

You need many holes for FAE, one hole will provide gas exchange at best.


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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: DoctorRobert]
    #7920901 - 01/23/08 05:50 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

The filtered oxygen from the aquarium pump is providing the air exchange - that's what he was referring to.

God damnit, my verizon account is still down, I can't upload this picture.


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Re: Aquarium bubbler's producing large pins? (w/ pics) [Re: verminute]
    #7921097 - 01/23/08 06:31 PM (16 years, 9 days ago)

With all due respect, pumping air into an FC without exhaust holes will not provide FAE, and may even build positive pressure.

Why not toss the PMP and drill some 1/4 inch holes around all six sides, ala a Shotgun FC, works great without the electricity and timers.


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