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Offlinefriggin wigga
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initiate pinning?(pics)
    #1077485 - 11/22/02 07:17 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I?ve given it the cold shock, and taken it out of the bag, and wanted to know how else I could inntiate pinning, and if I let it go too far? And I also wanted to show it off. So here it is! Whaddya think?


I have more, but I?ve reached my limit for today.
I will post more tomorrow.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1077490 - 11/22/02 07:19 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Keep it in the light. And did you inocc inside the coffe cup or just case in there?


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: AcidSmurf]
    #1077495 - 11/22/02 07:22 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

it's in indirect light constantly.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1077496 - 11/22/02 07:22 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

took it out of what bag?


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1077509 - 11/22/02 07:28 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I had it in a ziplock bag to keep some humidity in there, and put it in the fridge for 18 hr. But that was right after I cased, b/c I didn't know what I was doing. Should I do the cold shock again? And I only cased it in the mug. I used a combination of a buncha diff teks for substrate and started it in a 1/4 pt jar. Used Shroom Wizard's tek for casing, but in this instead of a tub or container. I got more small containers, with cased myc, but can't post em cause I reached my limit 4 today.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1077510 - 11/22/02 07:29 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

The bag also cuts down on contams.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1077578 - 11/22/02 08:02 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

You cold shocked right after you cased it? Hmmmm...... you need to do that after the casing layer has been colonized. What temp do you have it incubating at?


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: Skikid16]
    #1077612 - 11/22/02 08:17 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I know that now, but I have it incubating at room temp, 72-76 and I can't do anything about it, and I know, I know, I need a heater and to construct an incubation chamber, and I plan on gettin an aquarium heater, but that'll be a couple more weeks. What till then?


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1077621 - 11/22/02 08:21 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

cover the top with aluminum foil, put the whole thing in a ziplock, and place on top of your hot water heater, or your fridge. Why can't you get a heater for a couple of weeks, they're cheap, and unless pets are outlawed where you live, they're pretty easy to find.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: Skikid16]
    #1077631 - 11/22/02 08:24 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I've been outta work for a while so I got no money, so bear with me. I never thought of using the hot water heater for a heat source! Why would I want to give it heat tho? I thought a drop in temp did it.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1077638 - 11/22/02 08:27 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Ok, I just looked at the pic again, I thought it wasn't colonized, but it looks like its either colonized or contaminated by cobweb, can't tell cause of the quality of the pic. If it is colonized, disregard my statements about heating, the temps should be in the mid 70's to initiate pinning, What are you doing for humidity?


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: Skikid16]
    #1077649 - 11/22/02 08:30 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

WTF is cobweb contam? I heard of it, but didn't know what it is or was.  :confused:


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1077656 - 11/22/02 08:33 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Its a contam that looks like thin, whispy cobwebs. Mycelium usually is a brighter white, and thicker than cobweb. I can't really tell from your pic, although it does look a little to bright to be cobweb.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: Skikid16]
    #1077735 - 11/22/02 09:10 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

well the more prominent white strands look like roots when I look at it,and the less visable white looks kinda like cotton, but but in a rooty sence, like there are a buncha tiny roots. Nothin looks real cottoney tho. Just like a buncha roots shootin upward.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1077747 - 11/22/02 09:12 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

upon closer inspection, it DOES look a lil cottony, is this bad? What does this cobbweb mold do? I started a batch outside and it looks exacly like this tho. I thought it was just mycilum. Is it harmful? And does the batch growin outside have this cobbweb mold?


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1077766 - 11/22/02 09:21 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: Anonymous]
    #1077806 - 11/22/02 09:42 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

it is soil, and the bottom layer is soil/verm 50/50. Mid layer being myc.


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    #1077832 - 11/22/02 09:57 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: Anonymous]
    #1077884 - 11/22/02 10:19 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

one of the main reasons is used soil is b/c it's easy to tell when it's startin to go dry, and plus, it was avaliable. I have verm, but it's not easy to tell when it goes dry. Don't have any peat: I'm tryin to stick with using stuff around the house. And I don't know what coco is.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1077973 - 11/22/02 11:05 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

friggin- i give you props for experimenting on your own. you get the best newbie award of the month. once you get as far as you are now, its somewhat difficult to majorly mess things up. good luck to you!


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: MsPacMan]
    #1078100 - 11/22/02 11:30 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

THANX MAN!! U da MAN!! WWOOOHHHHOOOOOO!!! NEWBIE of the month!!!
I try not to post stupid Q's b/c someone once said stupid Q's are those that are never asked...besides I don't like to piss anyone off by botherin w/ things that have already been answered or is easy enough to do a lil experimenting.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1078154 - 11/22/02 11:53 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Dont worry that is mycelium, cant you all see the rhizomo- (can't spell it) growth? If you are using the shroom wizard's tek you are probably not providing at humidity. Considering that hese are the winter months it it most likely very dry around your house. You must make some kind of humidifier thingy. If you ahve perlite you can use that. If you dont you can put it into a container and spray the walls with mist every once in a while and keep in some kind of tupperware container or something. And remember to fan 1-4 times a day.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1078792 - 11/23/02 05:28 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Looks good. Sometimes my casings continue colonizing with too much vigor after a cold shock. i just patch lightly with some more casing material, this is optional. i think you should put some saran wrap over that to keep humidity up for pin formation, giving fresh air as often as you can. your temp sounds spot on for pinning(i wouldn't call it incubating). i think you'll see hyphal knots within a few days.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: rhizo]
    #1079099 - 11/23/02 12:12 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I don't know what are hyphal knots are. I have pix from a diff casing I have and I have it growin in a tupperware tub. I would upload the pix, but it still won't let me upload em. Will do asap.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1079219 - 11/23/02 01:37 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

How long has it been since you cased it? BTW, it does look like mycelium, sorry if I scared you with the C word (cobweb).


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: Skikid16]
    #1079272 - 11/23/02 02:03 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

It's been a couple of weeks, but I can't give a specific date, since I can't remember. Glad to hear it's not cobwebb. I got more pictures at my website:
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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1079314 - 11/23/02 02:23 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

That last pic of the mug on your site is good, its much more clear. Definetly mycelium, so its been cased for weeks? Damn, thats a long time, should be pinning soon, how are you providing humidity?


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: Skikid16]
    #1079694 - 11/23/02 05:25 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

It still isn't pinning after weeks!? You must raise the humidity some. Put that mofo in a plastic container. If you dont have a container with transparent top wrap it with plastic wrap.

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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: SixCee]
    #1082850 - 11/24/02 11:57 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I'm gonna get some perlite and add it to the bag. I took it outta the fridge for the coldshock, and it's doing a lil more colonizing of the top layer. Any other tips for initiating them to pin?


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1082868 - 11/25/02 12:00 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

At least one hour of light a day. Perlite is what I use, look to my avator for a pic. I just put that thing in a tupperware shoebox and when I give it light and wrap the top of the shoebox with plastic wrap.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1082934 - 11/25/02 12:14 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Why don't you put it in a terrarium? All you can do to iniate pinning is temp in the mid 70s, light, air exchange, and humidity. You can cold shock, but you already did that, and you can mist until the primordia starts to form.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: SixCee]
    #1083989 - 11/25/02 11:22 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I can't see your pic very clearly.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1084816 - 11/25/02 05:37 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I changed my setup. I know just have the casing with a wet piece of plastic wrap on top. Go to the post started by crabby ass to see what I mean...


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: SixCee]
    #1085635 - 11/25/02 10:50 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

WTF are you talkin about? I understood about 2% of whatever you just said.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1085726 - 11/25/02 11:13 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I changed my setup.
>Pretty self explanatory I think. I don't use a plastic shoebox with perlite anymore.

I know just have the casing with a wet piece of plastic wrap on top.
>In Crabyass' post is described a technique that explains that you can mist a piece of plastic wrap and then put it on top of your casing to initiate pinning.

Go to the post started by crabby ass to see what I mean...
>Go to a post started by a member named Crabyass to see what I am speaking of.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: friggin wigga]
    #1085794 - 11/25/02 11:34 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Any other tips for initiating them to pin?..........................
Yeah more beginners luck !  :wink:
I agree with 6E and Skikid ... raise and maintain humidity , if you keep putting in the fridge to much it may become hibernative , not bad thing , but does not allow fruiting .  :cool:
Good Luck 

ps . If real desperate and poor , get a five gallon bucket and use as a grow chamber , mist and perilite to humidify , get creative to adjust temps . The bag thingy with perilite sounds troublesome .


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: tripndicular]
    #1089142 - 11/26/02 11:57 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

i put them in a box w/ perlite, so it should hopefully start pinnin soon. I will post pics on my site asap.


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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: SixCee]
    #1091527 - 11/27/02 05:57 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

ok, so I when ahead and put them in the fruiting chamber and I'm tryin to innitiate pinning now, by bumpin the humidity up w/ perlite, but the only prob is that I can't get it any higher than 90 and the FAQ says to have it between 95-100 so what now? I have it 2 inches deep with 1/2 inch water/peroxide mix just like the FAQ says. It just doesn't say what to do if it doesn't get up there. :wink:

Oh and I updated my site so here is the link and just scroll to the bottom and it should say these pics were taken 11/25:
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Re: initiate pinning?(pics) [Re: Skikid16]
    #1097133 - 11/29/02 11:51 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

well, I got some hyphal knotts so I will takes pix soon. Will prob take pix and post them on my site monday.


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