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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: Disco Cat]
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There isn't someone standing in those locations with a video camera. There are automated cameras constantly recording everything in many areas on the ship.

Nope. Shaky hand held video buddy. You haven't been looking at the available data carefully.

No surprise there. :shrug:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: Diploid]
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Incredible. I'm willing to answer your petition and explain exactly why, in all detail, it would make sense to have an audio correlating to video release, and you omit recognition of everything except the irrelevent bit you can take issue with to attempt another jab. You are a genuinely dumb person. There is constant, unceasing, video surveillance in all necessary areas of the ship.

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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: Disco Cat]
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These ships are not crawling with cameras like you think. Constant serveilance is counter-morale. Imagine working in a place where you're constantly being filmed.

While I don't doubt there are SOME automatic cameras in sensitive parts of these these ships, I doubt they are as pervasive as you think, especially since the available video was clearly shot by hand.

But I've never been in the military. Maybe there is someone here who has and can give us the facts.

Or maybe you can come up with something to back up your claim that these ships are crawling with automatic cameras?


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: Disco Cat]
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Disco Cat said:
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@ zapwannabe:
Now climb back aboard the short bus and take your medication like a good little retardo (You are a good one, arent' you?) and I'm sure the nurse will be happy to tell you more fairy tales of Iranian nukes, and of oil being inconsequential to Russia's power.

Next time just don't assume the majority of people as being as unintelligent as you clearly are, and you (yes, even you) should do ok, kemosabe.


Ad hominems are fun, eh zapwannabe? How awful for you that you're about as good at them at them as you are at not being a mental putz. Zappa would write you off, in any case, so you should stop pretending.


QFT


You just quoted yourself with a QFT?:whatever:  You are really one of the more special posters.
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I am smarter than you.  By a lot.


Yeah, el oh el etc. Let's be serious here. You simply can't afford to play a game of wits. It's a good thing people like you will never be anything more than armchair delinquents.

It's clear that you enjoy pretending you're delivering lines akin to Frank Zappa's own, but you're a miserable imitator, and FZ didn't pathetically and deperately reach for opportunity to show off skills he didn't have, as you do. The man would spit on you for being the loser you are.

If you can't gauge that holding a book labeled "answer" isn't the same thing as seeing the answer for yourself, then you can't gauge intelligence either. You've just shown that. Again. Put down the keyboard, you're done. Have a nap.


FZ played brilliant guitar and made great music and skewered a lot of morons.  Especially disco morons.


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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: Disco Cat]
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Take the personalisms down several notches, folks. I've issued a warning to one poster in this thread already. I'd hate to have to whip out the ban stick.



Phred


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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: Disco Cat]
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Disco Cat said:
Incredible. I'm willing to answer your petition and explain exactly why, in all detail, it would make sense to have an audio correlating to video release, and you omit recognition of everything except the irrelevent bit you can take issue with to attempt another jab. You are a genuinely dumb person. There is constant, unceasing, video surveillance in all necessary areas of the ship.


You know this because.......? And there is constant surveillance 3600outside the ship? And they are all on one tape keyed with the radio room? And, I suppose, the entire intercom system? All on one tape? And you are smarter than me? And you are smarter than my dog? And you are smarter than my fish?

I must say Diploid, I can't believe you have taken this amount of abuse.


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Edited by zappaisgod (01/10/08 03:12 PM)

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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: zappaisgod]
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I'm smarter than your fish

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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: johnm214]
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This story continues to develop:

Iranian Boats May Not Have Made Radio Threat, Pentagon Says

"The Pentagon said yesterday that the apparent radio threat to bomb U.S. warships in the Persian Gulf last weekend may not have come from the five Iranian Revolutionary Guard speedboats that approached them -- and may not even have been intended against U.S. targets.

The communication Sunday was made on radio channel 16, a common marine frequency used by ships and others in the region. "It could have been a threat aimed at some other nation or a myriad of other things," said Rear Adm. Frank Thorp IV, a spokesman for the Navy."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/10/AR2008011000692_2.html?sid=ST2008011001831


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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: zorbman]
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oh SNAP! :smilingpuppy:

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The U.S. presence in the Gulf's international waters is a sensitive issue in Iran because the USS Vincennes, another Aegis cruiser, shot down an Iranian passenger plane in 1988, killing all 290 people on board. The United States at first contended that it was a warplane and then said that it was outside the civilian air corridor and did not respond to radio calls. Both were untrue, and the radio calls were made on military frequencies to which the airliner did not have access. A subsequent investigation showed that the U.S. ship was off course


I think this is the hammer in the coffen regarding weither to trust reports in the paper regarding matters like this as whole truths, you gotta take them with a grain of salt, we weren't there, and only the people who were there know exactly what happened.


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We were sent to hell for eternity :hellfire: Ø:omgawesome:h®
We play on earth to pass the time :foreheadslap:

Over-population the root of all Evil-brings the Elites Closer to the gates.

Edited by makaveli8x8 (01/11/08 11:22 AM)

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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: makaveli8x8]
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It could also have been a coded transmission from Venusians to Gate of Heaven members to get ready to board the mothership.


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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: makaveli8x8]
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It will be interesting to see if the original version of events continues to unravel over time. Revelations like these are why I cautioned people earlier to reserve judgment until all the facts are in evidence.


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“The crisis takes a much longer time coming than you think, and then it happens much faster than you would have thought.”  -- Rudiger Dornbusch

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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: zorbman]
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we should have blown them out of the water no matter who was on the FUCKING radio.


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: lonestar2004]
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we should have blown them out of the water no matter who was on the FUCKING radio.


Too much coffee?


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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: zorbman]
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I'm fucking tired.


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: zorbman]
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did u hear this?



US reveals new Iran 'incidents'


Iranian speedboats approached US warships in two previously undisclosed incidents in the Strait of Hormuz in December, a US Navy official has said.

The USS Whidbey Island fired warning shots during one of the encounters




http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7184400.stm


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: lonestar2004]
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Sounds like Iran is testing assymetrical tactics on US warships, no other explanation for a sudden escalation in hostilities near the strait of hormuz, Iran lately has escalating its military operations after the NIE report, they've also layed low on supplying Sadr and the Badr brigades with weaponry. No doubt they lay low for a reason.

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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
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What do you think the reason is? Could Iran possibly want the violence to be reduced so that the Americans will leave and make it easier for Iran to consolidate gains in south? Isn't that fairly risky considering too much improvement especially in the peace process could lead to a strengthened US position in Iraq? Or maybe they are scared to provoke the US anymore than they already have? I would think it would be in their best interest to bleed the Americans every month like they did before the surge. Maybe since they aren't they realized the Americans position has already deteriorated so much that it is best just to allow them to leave and get on with their own hedgemony in the region? Basically I am asking what possible good would come for Iran to make them stop supplying their militias in Iraq with as many weapons as they had before?

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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: lonestar2004]
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> we should have blown them out of the water no matter who was on the FUCKING radio.

Bad tactics. Right now Iran still doesn't know how effective the US Navy's defense is at stopping fast boat attacks. They also still don't know how close they can get before being attacked. It is a lot harder to plan an offense against an unknown defense.

On the opposite side, the US Navy is playing this well. They know that Iran is looking at using fast boats and can plan defenses accordingly. They have released the entire tape to the public putting Iran on the defensive for it's (claimed) actions.

What they need to do is take a page from the DEA playback, foul the props, and arrest a bunch of Iranian's for getting too close.

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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: Seuss]
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This is not the first time.

Did the U.S win the confrontation

No

What did we do

Nothing which mens they one.

For years the president of Iran has been doing this.
and we keep hearing the same thing. If you do this one more time you're going to get it. If you take one more step to a nuclear weapon we are going to blow you up. Just one more step. You know that voice its the voice of a coward. That says's if you say one more word to my wife I'm going to blast him. One more word.


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Lord Acton,

Edited by bodynotdead (01/12/08 08:14 PM)

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Re: Iranian Navy threatens U.S. ships [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
You know this because.......? And there is constant surveillance 3600outside the ship? And they are all on one tape keyed with the radio room? And, I suppose, the entire intercom system? All on one tape? And you are smarter than me? And you are smarter than my dog? And you are smarter than my fish?



Some navy ships have a camera on every single workstation aboard. Yes, there is constant 360 exterior video surveillance and recording (One of the systems the Navy uses is called OmniAlert360). As for it being linked to the intercom system, that's where you start receding into your personal ass-backward world.


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The video was shot from on deck and the message was received in the radio room.


I think this is where your brain puttered out on you. There is a video shot from the bridge, which is where the radio transmissions are sent and received from. I said they should release a video as the transmission is being received (which, judging by the quality and background bridge noises, was sourced from video in the first place). So in your specially-wired head you somehow created the idea that an all in one recording of the outside vid and the transmission was being talked about? If you can muster enough competence to take care of fish, then I'm impressed.

Edited by Disco Cat (01/13/08 03:50 AM)

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