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Philosopher's Stones *DELETED*
    #7697572 - 11/30/07 03:27 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Qwerty_huddle]
    #7697607 - 11/30/07 04:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

eh...they are called sclerotia, not philospher's stones. this isn't a japanese cartoon about kids with bionic body parts...this is mushroom cultivation.

here's what i found in all of 2 seconds of searching
"Search results for "sclerotia"

Results 1 - 25 of 1000 (best matches first)"

neat huh?


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Optx]
    #7697631 - 11/30/07 04:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

They are refered to as philosophers stones, however sclerotia is a more common term between mycologists and cultivators. From what i have seen the most common substrate used is ryegrass seed, or grasseed. Jars are inocculated and incubated for months untill deemed ready.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: kocos]
    #7697974 - 11/30/07 08:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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this isn't a japanese cartoon about kids with bionic body parts...this is mushroom cultivation.




WTF? The guy has 5 posts. How should he know what we usually call the stones? That was rude.
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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7697977 - 11/30/07 08:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Kodaxx, the common procedure is to inoculate rye grass seed or rye berries with mexicana spores or culture. The stones form right in the jars after a few weeks.

Sporeworks has spores of this species available for microscopic study. Check the vendor forum.
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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Qwerty_huddle]
    #7698281 - 11/30/07 10:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Brainiac]
    #7698350 - 11/30/07 10:57 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

great link bro!~

:smile:



I'd also suggest doing a search on sclerotia , Mexicana A, Tampanensis, Atlantisand rye grass seed ...

and looking at posts by Una, Workman, and RogerRabbit they will never stirr you wrong.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Optx]
    #7698513 - 11/30/07 11:37 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Optx said:
eh...they are called sclerotia, not philospher's stones. (best matches first)"

neat huh?



If they are not called stones then how did you know what he wa talking about???
Calling them stones is sort of like you calling it pot

Here is a link to a good supplier
http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/Psilocybe-atlantis--ATL7-Large-SclerotiaTM-p-16273.html


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: tahoe]
    #7698696 - 11/30/07 12:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

My friend is currently growing these, all you do is purchase a mycobag specifcally made for sclerotia, inoculate it, set it and forget it for about 4 months, then harvest, here is the guide my friend is using
http://www.clusterbusters.com/mycobagstone.htm


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Somatic]
    #7698724 - 11/30/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

super easy to grow. Its a cool litle side project. Super acidic stones. Mad heart burn from eating them. I would think wbs would produce sweeter ones but I also think they like the acidic soil/subtrate.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: tahoe]
    #7699075 - 11/30/07 01:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I have never heard of these until now, and would love to give a couple a shot, just for the pics.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Glacier Creek]
    #7699283 - 11/30/07 02:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I wish I had the power to delete the last 2/3rds of your post ^^^


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: tahoe]
    #7699446 - 11/30/07 03:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

tahoe said:
Quote:

Optx said:
eh...they are called sclerotia, not philospher's stones. (best matches first)"

neat huh?



If they are not called stones then how did you know what he wa talking about???
Calling them stones is sort of like you calling it pot

Here is a link to a good supplier
http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/Psilocybe-atlantis--ATL7-Large-SclerotiaTM-p-16273.html




Around the 25 of this mouth. They should have a good deal.

They take about 3-6 mouths.But, you should get alot in return per jar.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Qwerty_huddle]
    #7699504 - 11/30/07 03:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

go with tampensis they are stronger then mexicana's. although mexicana may give a better yield. atlantis im not familiar with yet.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: durban_poison]
    #7700614 - 11/30/07 07:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

My sis came back from amsterdam talking about these. i would love to get some prints. wierd fungi from what i have seen. She was told they were the strongest "shrooms" amsterdam had to offer.

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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: katfish]
    #7700644 - 11/30/07 08:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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katfish said:
My sis came back from amsterdam talking about these. i would love to get some prints. wierd fungi from what i have seen. She was told they were the strongest "shrooms" amsterdam had to offer.

kF




:rolleyes:

Panaeolus cyanescens generally are the strongest you can buy in Amsterdam.... Also I don't think you can actually call it a "shroom" since it is closer to a psychoactive potato then anything else....

I have worked with Mex-a before, both fruiting and sclerotia... I have found if you want to get a result then make about a 1/2 dozen agar multi-spore and wait till you see a sclerotia start to forum. Then transfer to rye :wink:


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7701015 - 11/30/07 10:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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this isn't a japanese cartoon about kids with bionic body parts...this is mushroom cultivation.




WTF? The guy has 5 posts. How should he know what we usually call the stones? That was rude.
RR




RR, the term "philosopher's stones" came from the anime Full Metal Alchemist, and in my opinion has no business being bastardized into mushroom cult slang. not for the sake of the show, but for the sake of this science.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Optx]
    #7701037 - 11/30/07 10:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Actually, the term "Philosopher's Stone" predates that anime by CENTURIES.

In medieval alchemy it was the "missing" element required to turn lead into gold.

Sclerotia have been called Philosopher's stones for years, too...

I don't know what your personal vendetta against Fullmetal Alchemist is, but don't take it out on a newbie.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7701049 - 11/30/07 10:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
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this isn't a japanese cartoon about kids with bionic body parts...this is mushroom cultivation.




WTF?  The guy has 5 posts.  How should he know what we usually call the stones?  That was rude.
RR



:congrats:


I've always known them to be philospher's stones. I've always wanted to give them a try.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Optx]
    #7701068 - 11/30/07 10:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Optx said:
Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
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this isn't a Japanese cartoon about kids with bionic body parts...this is mushroom cultivation.




WTF? The guy has 5 posts. How should he know what we usually call the stones? That was rude.
RR




RR, the term "philosopher's stones" came from the anime Full Metal Alchemist, and in my opinion has no business being bastardized into mushroom cult slang. not for the sake of the show, but for the sake of this science.




I think the reference was more to the fact that he is a new comer in our community. The last thing we want to do is discourage someone by belittling them, (intentionally or not). It's not what you say, but how you say it. By the way, now you make me want to go rent out Full Metal Alchemist!


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