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    #7697572 - 11/30/07 03:27 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Qwerty_huddle]
    #7697607 - 11/30/07 04:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

eh...they are called sclerotia, not philospher's stones. this isn't a japanese cartoon about kids with bionic body parts...this is mushroom cultivation.

here's what i found in all of 2 seconds of searching
"Search results for "sclerotia"

Results 1 - 25 of 1000 (best matches first)"

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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Optx]
    #7697631 - 11/30/07 04:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

They are refered to as philosophers stones, however sclerotia is a more common term between mycologists and cultivators. From what i have seen the most common substrate used is ryegrass seed, or grasseed. Jars are inocculated and incubated for months untill deemed ready.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: kocos]
    #7697974 - 11/30/07 08:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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this isn't a japanese cartoon about kids with bionic body parts...this is mushroom cultivation.




WTF? The guy has 5 posts. How should he know what we usually call the stones? That was rude.
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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7697977 - 11/30/07 08:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Kodaxx, the common procedure is to inoculate rye grass seed or rye berries with mexicana spores or culture. The stones form right in the jars after a few weeks.

Sporeworks has spores of this species available for microscopic study. Check the vendor forum.
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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Qwerty_huddle]
    #7698281 - 11/30/07 10:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Brainiac]
    #7698350 - 11/30/07 10:57 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

great link bro!~

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I'd also suggest doing a search on sclerotia , Mexicana A, Tampanensis, Atlantisand rye grass seed ...

and looking at posts by Una, Workman, and RogerRabbit they will never stirr you wrong.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Optx]
    #7698513 - 11/30/07 11:37 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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eh...they are called sclerotia, not philospher's stones. (best matches first)"

neat huh?



If they are not called stones then how did you know what he wa talking about???
Calling them stones is sort of like you calling it pot

Here is a link to a good supplier
http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/Psilocybe-atlantis--ATL7-Large-SclerotiaTM-p-16273.html


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: tahoe]
    #7698696 - 11/30/07 12:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

My friend is currently growing these, all you do is purchase a mycobag specifcally made for sclerotia, inoculate it, set it and forget it for about 4 months, then harvest, here is the guide my friend is using
http://www.clusterbusters.com/mycobagstone.htm


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Somatic]
    #7698724 - 11/30/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

super easy to grow. Its a cool litle side project. Super acidic stones. Mad heart burn from eating them. I would think wbs would produce sweeter ones but I also think they like the acidic soil/subtrate.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: tahoe]
    #7699075 - 11/30/07 01:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I have never heard of these until now, and would love to give a couple a shot, just for the pics.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Glacier Creek]
    #7699283 - 11/30/07 02:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I wish I had the power to delete the last 2/3rds of your post ^^^


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: tahoe]
    #7699446 - 11/30/07 03:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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tahoe said:
Quote:

Optx said:
eh...they are called sclerotia, not philospher's stones. (best matches first)"

neat huh?



If they are not called stones then how did you know what he wa talking about???
Calling them stones is sort of like you calling it pot

Here is a link to a good supplier
http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/Psilocybe-atlantis--ATL7-Large-SclerotiaTM-p-16273.html




Around the 25 of this mouth. They should have a good deal.

They take about 3-6 mouths.But, you should get alot in return per jar.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Qwerty_huddle]
    #7699504 - 11/30/07 03:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

go with tampensis they are stronger then mexicana's. although mexicana may give a better yield. atlantis im not familiar with yet.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: durban_poison]
    #7700614 - 11/30/07 07:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

My sis came back from amsterdam talking about these. i would love to get some prints. wierd fungi from what i have seen. She was told they were the strongest "shrooms" amsterdam had to offer.

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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: katfish]
    #7700644 - 11/30/07 08:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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My sis came back from amsterdam talking about these. i would love to get some prints. wierd fungi from what i have seen. She was told they were the strongest "shrooms" amsterdam had to offer.

kF




:rolleyes:

Panaeolus cyanescens generally are the strongest you can buy in Amsterdam.... Also I don't think you can actually call it a "shroom" since it is closer to a psychoactive potato then anything else....

I have worked with Mex-a before, both fruiting and sclerotia... I have found if you want to get a result then make about a 1/2 dozen agar multi-spore and wait till you see a sclerotia start to forum. Then transfer to rye :wink:


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7701015 - 11/30/07 10:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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this isn't a japanese cartoon about kids with bionic body parts...this is mushroom cultivation.




WTF? The guy has 5 posts. How should he know what we usually call the stones? That was rude.
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RR, the term "philosopher's stones" came from the anime Full Metal Alchemist, and in my opinion has no business being bastardized into mushroom cult slang. not for the sake of the show, but for the sake of this science.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Optx]
    #7701037 - 11/30/07 10:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Actually, the term "Philosopher's Stone" predates that anime by CENTURIES.

In medieval alchemy it was the "missing" element required to turn lead into gold.

Sclerotia have been called Philosopher's stones for years, too...

I don't know what your personal vendetta against Fullmetal Alchemist is, but don't take it out on a newbie.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7701049 - 11/30/07 10:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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this isn't a japanese cartoon about kids with bionic body parts...this is mushroom cultivation.




WTF?  The guy has 5 posts.  How should he know what we usually call the stones?  That was rude.
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:congrats:


I've always known them to be philospher's stones. I've always wanted to give them a try.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Optx]
    #7701068 - 11/30/07 10:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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this isn't a Japanese cartoon about kids with bionic body parts...this is mushroom cultivation.




WTF? The guy has 5 posts. How should he know what we usually call the stones? That was rude.
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RR, the term "philosopher's stones" came from the anime Full Metal Alchemist, and in my opinion has no business being bastardized into mushroom cult slang. not for the sake of the show, but for the sake of this science.




I think the reference was more to the fact that he is a new comer in our community. The last thing we want to do is discourage someone by belittling them, (intentionally or not). It's not what you say, but how you say it. By the way, now you make me want to go rent out Full Metal Alchemist!


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Optx]
    #7701085 - 11/30/07 10:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
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this isn't a japanese cartoon about kids with bionic body parts...this is mushroom cultivation.




WTF? The guy has 5 posts. How should he know what we usually call the stones? That was rude.
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RR, the term "philosopher's stones" came from the anime Full Metal Alchemist, and in my opinion has no business being bastardized into mushroom cult slang. not for the sake of the show, but for the sake of this science.




well that is what they are calling this fungi in Amsterdam, my sis even showed me the little abel that said philospher stones. That was like 3 years ago
I just figured it was a type of mushroom. Now i am getting into mycology so I asked her today what they looked like when I saw this post. She said they looked like rocky clumps just like the harvested ones that are pictured on shroomery threads.

So I don't get it this strain of fungi is grown totally invitro?
And why does it take so much longer to colonized jars?

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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Qwerty_huddle]
    #7701135 - 11/30/07 10:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

ok ok, this is the internet, and i'm sorry if people interpret things incorrectly. if i came across as a dick, i'm sorry. and i have no vendetta against FMA, it's a good cartoon. i think hybridizing terms from alchemy into mycology should be minimized though. just my opinion, let's call a spade a spade and not a "philosopher's shovel".


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Optx]
    #7701266 - 11/30/07 10:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe because it gives a philosophical trip and looks like stones.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Brainiac]
    #7701451 - 12/01/07 12:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Maybe because it gives a philosophical trip and looks like stones.




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Re: Philosopher's Stones *DELETED* [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7701902 - 12/01/07 06:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Qwerty_huddle]
    #7711914 - 12/03/07 05:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

philospher stones in amsterdam generally are refering to the tampensis sclerotia. i havent seen mexicanas there yet.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Qwerty_huddle]
    #7724752 - 12/06/07 02:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Anybody know of any good guides for growing Philosopher's Stones. Also any places that sell spore prints for them to the United States. The species are one of these two or both, I'm not sure.

Psilocybe Tampanensis
Psilocybe Mexicana

They are truffle mushrooms...any help would be appreciated.





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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: PhdHater]
    #7725501 - 12/06/07 05:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

does anyone have a print that will grow these?

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Re: Philosopher's Stones *DELETED* [Re: katfish]
    #7725838 - 12/06/07 07:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Qwerty_huddle]
    #7727093 - 12/07/07 12:46 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

just found a place where I am getting a print for $2.00

i'll let ya know if i get it.
Can I make a LC with spores from this fungi?


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: katfish]
    #7727192 - 12/07/07 01:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Can I make a LC with spores from this fungi?



yes. I grew atlantis the same way as I grew cubes. Print to LC. LC to jars of chicken feed. Here's the result:







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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: katfish]
    #7727222 - 12/07/07 01:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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just found a place where I am getting a print for $2.00

i'll let ya know if i get it.
Can I make a LC with spores from this fungi?




You mean one of the free spore rings?


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Nibin]
    #7728339 - 12/07/07 11:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'm pretty sure he means the FMRC, which is having a huge sale. I am pretty sure he won't be satisfied if that is the case. Good luck though.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Workman]
    #7728689 - 12/07/07 01:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

why you think the FMRC is a joke?


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: katfish]
    #7728692 - 12/07/07 01:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It can take a long time.. very long..


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Brainiac]
    #7728857 - 12/07/07 01:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

this is pretty cool, which is the best for growing sclerotia?

Psilocybe "atlantis" : ATL#7 Large Sclerotia(TM)
Psilocybe mexicana : Strain-A(TM)
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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: usg543]
    #7728871 - 12/07/07 01:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Brainiac]
    #7728898 - 12/07/07 02:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well i was searching around and some people said mexicana strain a but i just wanted opinions.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: katfish]
    #7728913 - 12/07/07 02:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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why you think the FMRC is a joke?




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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Qwerty_huddle]
    #7729637 - 12/07/07 04:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If you want to grow Philosopher's Stones, then this site briefly describes it:

http://www.mushplanet.nl/cult_growtruffles.php

HTH!


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: Optx]
    #7729748 - 12/07/07 05:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Optx said:
ok ok, this is the internet, and i'm sorry if people interpret things incorrectly. if i came across as a dick, i'm sorry. and i have no vendetta against FMA, it's a good cartoon. i think hybridizing terms from alchemy into mycology should be minimized though. just my opinion, let's call a spade a spade and not a "philosopher's shovel".


Jesus Christ man, as someone already said, the anime didn't even KIND of coin that term. Shit, they didn't even make it popular. You're parading around complaining about what is essentially ignorance and this irony flies right over your head...

If someone makes a thread asking how to grow "Weed", I'm pretty sure nobody has any business shitting all over them because they didn't call it "Cannabis."

The bottom line is you vibefucked this thread and that bothers me. Lots of good info in here though.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: usg543]
    #7730538 - 12/07/07 08:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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usg543 said:
this is pretty cool, which is the best for growing sclerotia?

Psilocybe "atlantis" : ATL#7 Large c(TM)
Psilocybe mexicana : Strain-A(TM)
Psilocybe tampanensis : Pollock



my print was atlantis ATL#7 from a trade, originally from Sporeworks. I haven't tried any other sclerotia but I can confirm it grew very fast on my standard cube grain. The pics in the earier post are at about 3 months but I think it already looked like that after 2.


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Re: Philosopher's Stones *DELETED* [Re: Optx]
    #12316499 - 04/02/10 08:09 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Post deleted by silvanadelucci

Reason for deletion: People were upset that I res'd a post.



Edited by silvanadelucci (04/09/10 10:15 AM)


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: silvanadelucci]
    #12316507 - 04/02/10 08:13 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Wah Wah Wah.

This thread is old let it die :suicide:


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: badman]
    #12316573 - 04/02/10 08:36 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

its not about reference
this is mush cult not off topic discussion
i wish i had the close thread button
damit -.-!


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Re: Philosopher's Stones [Re: silvanadelucci]
    #12367157 - 04/10/10 12:17 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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silvanadelucci said:
Why so hostile?




You res'd a three year old thread to say that? lol


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