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 BlueJay
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 Multi-spore genetics 
#753386 - 07/17/02 10:58 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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How does multi spore genetics work....If I take the first shroom off a casing will over a few generations will this lead to a faster first flush genetics...or if you use the same substrate for a few gens then just change it once but go back after that generation will the shrooms evolve to prefer this substrate???Any help???
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 Re: Multi-spore genetics [Re: BlueJay]
#754363 - 07/17/02 06:07 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Every time you go back to spores there is a variety of substrains present. The object is to multispore a substrate and clone the best fruit that came from it in the environment you grew it in.
If you grew from spore produced from a single substrate in an exact environment, it would still take a very long time to have all substrains favor that exact environment. You would be doing it a diservice if you were successful.
Just clone a good specimen produced from the substrate and environment you use. Use it until it flops, then start again.
Save prints from every generation. The closer to the wild, the more diversity.
With cubensis, it's success is it's diversity. It has the ability to fruit in a wide range of environment and on a wide range of substrate. Why would you want to change that?
Cloning a good performer is better. You duplicate the exact genetics of a succesful substrain for your SPECIFIC conditions. Producing spores over and over from that CLONE, could limit the genetic pool. This is why it is important to always return to multisporing for spore production, in the LONG RUN.
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BlueJay
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 Re: Multi-spore genetics [Re: ]
#755120 - 07/18/02 02:09 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well teonan I am not asking for cubensis...I want to grow many generations of pan trops out on Straw/rice flour,,Straw/ ryeflour,,straw// millet...I then wanted to take prints from the biggest fastest growers...thinking that after a few gens they would really favor the straw....I wont use dung ever so It would take many years on straw to reach full potential...I would switch other additives so it wouldnt secinate(Sp?).....By the way thanks for taking the time to answer....J
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Re: Multi-spore genetics [Re: BlueJay]
#755707 - 07/18/02 07:48 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pans grow fine on straw without any additives, right now!!! You don't need to breed them to do that. They don't require manure with straw. Adding flour to straw will increase your contamination risk, you have to way that against any gains in yield or speed of colonization.
Pure strain isolations and testing will result in WHAT you are looking for. The straw loving substrain is already there, and I don't think you can ever get it to stop liking DUNG.
Where did you get your Pan. tropicalis from?
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BlueJay
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Re: Multi-spore genetics [Re: ]
#760766 - 07/20/02 02:11 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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I got the genetics from ralph....I have just fruited 2 pint jars of straw/brown rice powder with a casing put directly on top with sides taped....They have small stems wth bigger tops than ralphs pics...Look more like pics of the ones in nature but still very small...I was looking thru TMC last night and it does say to print the first one of the first flush...I know they will always fruit off of straw but why I am playing with adding xtra stuff is to try and get the size comparible of natural grown ones....Bigger is better and stableizing this is the goal...thanks for the advice...
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