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FecalDildo
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In situ cactus grafting.
#7482213 - 10/03/07 07:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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All of my cacti. pachanoi, peruvianus scopulicolis and bridgesii are planted in the ground in my garden and most are between three and six feet high, I'd like to graft some bridgesii tips onto pachanoi bases to increase the growth speed of the bridgesii.
Does anyone have any special tips or methods for grafting outdoors or should I just do everything as usual? The main thing I'm worried about is the graft drying out before it takes. should I take measures to keep it moist/humid, maybe tie a clear plastic bag over the graft for a few days?
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Re: In situ cactus grafting. [Re: FecalDildo]
#7482256 - 10/03/07 07:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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you should be fine, i still dont know why you want to graft bridgesii to pedro because they grow at the same speed but it is your cacti so
graft on
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cpw1971
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Re: In situ cactus grafting. [Re: royer]
#7482593 - 10/03/07 08:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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to create.... Bridgesoi  and dildo, wow my first time adressing someone that and not being out of line . ummm yeah post some pics please 
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Re: In situ cactus grafting. [Re: cpw1971]
#7482875 - 10/03/07 09:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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IDK, clear plastic over plants in full Sun is usually harmful due to really intensifying the rays and what not...even in winter. Don't know if it's like that for Cactus, but plants can really suffer.
Maybe cover with a piece of cloth (dampened at the bottom to aid in humidity)then the bag over that to protect the tissue?
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Re: In situ cactus grafting. [Re: VirgilKane]
#7482908 - 10/03/07 09:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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how about a black plastic bag to block out some light and a white one over that to reflect some more
Edited by cpw1971 (10/03/07 09:48 PM)
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kadakuda
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Re: In situ cactus grafting. [Re: cpw1971]
#7482933 - 10/03/07 09:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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would definatly need a shade cloth.... black screen, or that garden fabric you lay underneath mulch work ok. if it s asunny spot you want to block a bunch of light but also heat...and put a baggy over it to keep up humidity.
i too find bridgesii/pachanoi equally fast.
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Re: In situ cactus grafting. [Re: royer]
#7483635 - 10/04/07 02:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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royer9864 said: you should be fine, i still dont know why you want to graft bridgesii to pedro because they grow at the same speed but it is your cacti so
graft on
My pedros grow at two to three times the speed of my bridgesii that's why, well that and the fact that the bridgi is three times as potent.
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FecalDildo
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Re: In situ cactus grafting. [Re: VirgilKane]
#7483641 - 10/04/07 02:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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VirgilKane said: IDK, clear plastic over plants in full Sun is usually harmful due to really intensifying the rays and what not...even in winter. Don't know if it's like that for Cactus, but plants can really suffer.
Maybe cover with a piece of cloth (dampened at the bottom to aid in humidity)then the bag over that to protect the tissue?
It's spring time here and my cacti have just come out or dormancy, I'll use shade cloth and wrap damp rags around the grafts, I'll also wait until there's three days of rain forecast, that should help too.
I'll keep you all posted with the progress.
Thanks to all.
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Re: In situ cactus grafting. [Re: FecalDildo]
#7483722 - 10/04/07 03:57 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I meant dampening the bottom of the cloth, the part that would be around the root stock itself and not the graft, like where the bag itself got cinched around the rootstock. Sorry that part wasn't clear. Having a damp rag over all of it might create some problems for the graft, especially if it was uncovered and would be raining for a few days as the rain would come through the cloth and keep the rags ringing wet. Someone with a lot more knowledge/foresite will be able to give you a better explanation on what the effects on the graft might be.
Creating shade was an excellent idea that I should have thought of myself and one that would allow you to go with your original plan of using a just a clear bag for humidity.
Good luck...looking forward to seeing the results!
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Re: In situ cactus grafting. [Re: VirgilKane]
#7483838 - 10/04/07 06:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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remember that if u increase the growth rate, it is likely to reduce the potency... the fact that your bridgesii is growing slower might account for the difference in potency...
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kadakuda
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Re: In situ cactus grafting. [Re: VirgilKane]
#7483873 - 10/04/07 06:44 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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VirgilKane said: I meant dampening the bottom of the cloth, the part that would be around the root stock itself and not the graft, like where the bag itself got cinched around the rootstock. Sorry that part wasn't clear. Having a damp rag over all of it might create some problems for the graft, especially if it was uncovered and would be raining for a few days as the rain would come through the cloth and keep the rags ringing wet. Someone with a lot more knowledge/foresite will be able to give you a better explanation on what the effects on the graft might be.
Creating shade was an excellent idea that I should have thought of myself and one that would allow you to go with your original plan of using a just a clear bag for humidity.
Good luck...looking forward to seeing the results!
totally...i would not want anything wet/damp actually TOUCHING the plant....just high humidity, no water/dampness.
strange teh bridgesii are growing so much slower. those 2 species always seem to race each other here...ones ahead one day then the next haha.
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Re: In situ cactus grafting. [Re: kadakuda]
#7483882 - 10/04/07 06:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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my bridgesii grow faster then my pedro
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FecalDildo
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Re: In situ cactus grafting. [Re: VirgilKane]
#7483928 - 10/04/07 07:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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VirgilKane said: I meant dampening the bottom of the cloth, the part that would be around the root stock itself and not the graft, like where the bag itself got cinched around the rootstock. Sorry that part wasn't clear. Having a damp rag over all of it might create some problems for the graft, especially if it was uncovered and would be raining for a few days as the rain would come through the cloth and keep the rags ringing wet. Someone with a lot more knowledge/foresite will be able to give you a better explanation on what the effects on the graft might be.
Creating shade was an excellent idea that I should have thought of myself and one that would allow you to go with your original plan of using a just a clear bag for humidity.
Good luck...looking forward to seeing the results!
Thanks, I understand fully what you mean now.
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Re: In situ cactus grafting. [Re: royer]
#7485341 - 10/04/07 03:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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royer9864 said: my bridgesii grow faster then my pedro
Mine do too, I thought everyones did.
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kadakuda
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Re: In situ cactus grafting. [Re: Knoa6]
#7487342 - 10/05/07 03:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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mine jsut got eaten by caterpillars. hooray!
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