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what to put cakes on in chamber? Lots of ?'s
    #737334 - 07/10/02 06:49 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Hello all. I have cakes all ready to go in my new rubbermaid container. I am going with pearlite for an inch on the bottom, well soaked. The grow guide I am using off this site says to take each cake out of the jar and use the top as a place to stick the cake on while it fruits over the perlite. Problem is, I wanna use these jars to make mroe cakes and thats kinda tough without the tops. Can I jsut stick them right on the perlite? Oh, and the container is clear, but the top is dark blue, will it be ok with light only coming in from the sides?

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Re: what to put cakes on in chamber? Lots of ?'s [Re: feared]
    #737341 - 07/10/02 06:50 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I suggest you lay down some tin-foil to seperate the cakes from the perlite or else you will get waterlogged shrooms and the cakes might contaminate. Tape a black garbage bag around the sides of your terrarium and only allow light to come in from above.


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Re: what to put cakes on in chamber? Lots of ?'s [Re: feared]
    #737367 - 07/10/02 06:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

You can put them straight on the perlite, and they will probably grow, but the mushrooms will be soggy. But, it helps them grow bigger also. I would recommend putting down plastic butter lids or something else over the perlite, because the metal lids will rust. Just give your cake a couple days on the perlite directly, and then put them on something.

If you are using PF cakes then it doesnt matter where the light comes from, since the mushrooms can grow out sideways and be fine. (just not from underneath of course)


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Re: what to put cakes on in chamber? Lots of ?'s [Re: invader]
    #737398 - 07/10/02 07:08 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks guys for the help. I was thinking that the perlite might allow too much water to get sucked into the cake.... So, I stick them right on for a day or two to allow them to soak up some extra water, then how about using some saran wrap or similar plastic to lay them on? That should work right?


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Re: what to put cakes on in chamber? Lots of ?'s [Re: feared]
    #737412 - 07/10/02 07:15 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

It would be best to not let them lay on the perlite at all. The double-ended casing tek is when you put wet vermiculite on the top of a cake to help fruits grow from the top. The wet top of the cake incourages mushrooms to grow on the top because the more water the bigger/healthier fruits. Mycelium will grow mushrooms from wherever the most water is available.

I havent read this anywhere but i would assume that putting the cakes directly on the perlite would encourage mushroom growth on the bottom because water is more plentiful. Just put them on tin foil, saran wrap or anything that wont leak.

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Re: what to put cakes on in chamber? Lots of ?'s [Re: Fd3000]
    #737804 - 07/10/02 10:02 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

...And make sure that if you put them on foil, you fold, or cut the piece so that it isnt extending too far from the sides of the cake. (or better yet, make sure the cake completely covers it.) I had a case where shroom starting growing toward the light reflecting off the foil!

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Re: what to put cakes on in chamber? Lots of ?'s [Re: ZestyMycelium]
    #738029 - 07/11/02 02:04 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

When my friend grew from cakes he used the plastic lids that they make for the ball jars. They were perfect because he could case the bottom easily in the lid with damp verm. He got them at the supermarket, they came in packs of eight.

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Re: what to put cakes on in chamber? Lots of ?'s [Re: feared]
    #738085 - 07/11/02 03:32 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I have had great success with chicken wire. You can bend it and make very sturdy shelves to maximize your space. Also I have found with perlite that the more things that you have sitting on it, the more likely it is to grow bacteria, mold, fungus, algae, etc. so chicken wire is a great solution. Home depot has it for cheap. Make sure you don't buy wire that's too big/small, I use the stuff with 1/16 inch holes. That way, I can use it for silica drying, terrariums, as a barrier when autoclaving, etc.

Hope that helps, I have had great success with it


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Re: what to put cakes on in chamber? Lots of ?'s [Re: jdtwelve]
    #738095 - 07/11/02 03:45 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Why not put H2o2 ' ed vermiculite on the inside of the lid to the very top and put the cake snuggled in it, and surround it with the same wet treated verm so it can use some of that humidity as well..... if you are really worried about the rust, maybe you can lay a couple of skinny topperware on top of your perlirte with a layer of treated verm at the bottom inside of them, and snuggle your cakes into it and surround them with verm as well.
The rust is never a problem though, just put a thck verm layer to cover almost to the top of the lid.

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