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Gone333
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Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage?
#7368980 - 09/04/07 09:10 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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well, in about a week i will be trying shrooms for the first time.
im the type of person who sticks with natural drugs like weed, salvia, and others. i tend to stay away from coke, acid, and various other man made drugs.
i know that many 'hardcore' drugs can cause permanate mental damage. i have heard all the stories about people goin out to the west coast to do party and do drugs and when they come back their completely different. this is the only thing that scares me about doing shrooms.
i have heard from various people and sites that shrooms can cause permante mental damage. i have no clue if its true or not, im guessing its some anti-drug government/parent run bullshyt to keep kids off drugs but im not sure.
aside from enlightening you on all things spiritually and showing you different points of view on life, can shrooms "burn you out" and completely mess you up?
like i said, from the beginning i have thought that everyone who says that is just sayin it to keep kids off drugs, like they do with weed. however, i dont know much about the long term health risks of shrooms.
can anyone reassure me that im right and tell me that shrooms cant change you like lsd/acid/pills/coke can?
thanks, peace
Edited by Gone333 (09/04/07 09:12 PM)
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2859558484
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: Gone333]
#7369032 - 09/04/07 09:22 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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shrooms can change you, but imo not permanently like acid/pills/meth. Just my opinion ive formed through experience. Usually you will feel some after affects for a couple of weeks after excessive shrooming. But they will fade. This is only if you do a) large ammouint or b)frequent dosing.
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KilroyMilosevik
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: Gone333]
#7369042 - 09/04/07 09:26 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't believe there has been anything reported/documented referring to mushrooms and long term side effects - unless you consider all the things you may learn from your experiences... I suppose this could be considered negative in someones perception, but not mine (Knowledge is power). There have been reports of people committing suicide, however. Understand though, that mushrooms can really open your mind to who you really are, and some people simply can not handle that, I guess.
Mushrooms won't make your brain bleed or burn holes in it. They basically won't damage you in any of the ways that you have been told or have read about... its all anti-drug propaganda.
By the way, LSD is just as "safe" as mushrooms, the only problem is getting real LSD. LSD is measured in micrograms (.000001g), and as little as 25 mcgs can give one an effect from the drug - you are taking such a small dose that it cannot be physically harmful, and both LSD and Mushrooms are far from addicting, but still very enjoyable. Some people trip once a week and others trip once a month, year, decade, etc. Everyone has their own rate of consumption. There aren't really any valid accounts of people consuming acid and tripping out for the rest of their lives, and having constant, uncontrollable and extremely frightening flashbacks like you have probably heard. Although you may have a completely different perspective on a lot of things in your life, including yourself.
Hope that helps a little
Enjoy your trip, you will have a blast! Just be with the right people in a safe and comfortable environment, and be sure that you are ready to enjoy them.
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THEBats
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: 2859558484]
#7369049 - 09/04/07 09:27 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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you have already received biased info.
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KilroyMilosevik
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: THEBats] 1
#7369057 - 09/04/07 09:29 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well of course he has! All the information he will ever receive is going to be biased.
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cloudtripper
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: Gone333]
#7369060 - 09/04/07 09:29 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't think anyone can tell you it's going to be 100% safe, just like any drug there could be long turm or short term consequences. I don't think there have been any lab tests (on poor litle mices) that have shown any long negative effects, but there has never been a test on humans in the long term that I know of. I worry about the same thing myself, so far I'm f f f f ff ine !
Then again no ones known the long term effects of using a mobile phone, or breathing in dirty city air ... or watching to much tv for that matter.
I smoked pot for 10 years daily too and acheived many big things during that time.
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: THEBats]
#7369062 - 09/04/07 09:30 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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nah im pretty sure if you dose excessivley with any psychedelic you will feel some after effects, depending on the drug they can be temporary or last a loong time.
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THEBats
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: cloudtripper]
#7369068 - 09/04/07 09:31 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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cloudtripper said: I don't think anyone can tell you it's going to be 100% safe, just like any drug there could be long turm or short term consequences. I don't think there have been any lab tests (on poor litle mices) that have shown any long negative effects, but there has never been a test on humans in the long term that I know of. I worry about the same thing myself, so far I'm f f f f ff ine !
Then again no ones known the long term effects of using a mobile phone, or breathing in dirty city air ... or watching to much tv for that matter.
I smoked pot for 10 years daily too and acheived many big things during that time.
Well lets put it this way. It carries about the same risks as eating at Mcdonalds.
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: THEBats]
#7369072 - 09/04/07 09:32 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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except you probably won't be getting fat off of mushrooms... not directly anyway.
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cloudtripper
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: KilroyMilosevik]
#7369078 - 09/04/07 09:33 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah McDonalds is probably worse .. stay away from that shit.
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2859558484
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: THEBats]
#7369079 - 09/04/07 09:33 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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THEBats said:
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cloudtripper said: I don't think anyone can tell you it's going to be 100% safe, just like any drug there could be long turm or short term consequences. I don't think there have been any lab tests (on poor litle mices) that have shown any long negative effects, but there has never been a test on humans in the long term that I know of. I worry about the same thing myself, so far I'm f f f f ff ine !
Then again no ones known the long term effects of using a mobile phone, or breathing in dirty city air ... or watching to much tv for that matter.
I smoked pot for 10 years daily too and acheived many big things during that time.
Well lets put it this way. It carries about the same risks as eating at Mcdonalds.
i wouldnt say that man... Psychedelics arent harmless. If used responsibly you should not have any after effects. But if you dose too much too often you will.
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THEBats
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: cloudtripper]
#7369082 - 09/04/07 09:34 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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true. I'm just making an example that if you eat a whopper every now and then you don't have much to worry about. Also I never said psychedelics were harmless. Neither is mcdonalds.
Edited by THEBats (09/04/07 09:35 PM)
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: Gone333]
#7369107 - 09/04/07 09:37 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wouldn't call it damage
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2859558484
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: Infested]
#7369116 - 09/04/07 09:40 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah its definately not damage.... I think its your subconcious learning how to use different parts of your mind. And it takes some time to "forget" what youve learned.
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: 2859558484]
#7369131 - 09/04/07 09:43 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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wowitch17 said: shrooms can change you, but imo not permanently like acid/pills/meth. Just my opinion ive formed through experience. Usually you will feel some after affects for a couple of weeks after excessive shrooming. But they will fade. This is only if you do a) large ammouint or b)frequent dosing.
lol..... thats all I feel like saying, you fuggin idiot.
Your opinion says alot about you.
serry. carry on people..............
If you are scared of lsd, then you better be scared of mushrooms.
Not the same thing but..................lol
wowitch17 is a dumbass.
Mushrooms could fuck your world. Just like lsd.
How many ignorant people can possibly be here at the shroomery? If older members are just as stupid, then wouldnt the shroomery just explode and rain ignorance upon the earth?
You want some brain damage use some lsd!.............lol You want to change your life use mushrooms!
Im kidding, and some of the people here make me sort of sick. They have dea written all over them or they are just total morons.
"Meh, I think lsd effects you permanently, unlike shrooms". <----anyone who says that is just way out of their element.
Just thank them for bad advise and move on.
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Edited by yageman (09/04/07 09:53 PM)
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: yageman]
#7369135 - 09/04/07 09:44 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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haha nice? what are your thoughts?
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: yageman]
#7369138 - 09/04/07 09:44 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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THEBats
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: KilroyMilosevik]
#7369141 - 09/04/07 09:45 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: 2859558484]
#7369176 - 09/04/07 09:51 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol, I love Yageman's fully justified anger. To you, gone333 the only way to completely reassure yourself is to read http://www.shroomery.org/6300/The-Mushroom-and-the-Synapse or another pharmacological analysis to understand what is going on in your head.
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Re: Can Shrooms Cause Permanent Damage? [Re: 2859558484]
#7369203 - 09/04/07 09:56 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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wowitch17 said: haha nice? what are your thoughts?
Yer a dipshit?
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