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InvisibleAlone In The Fire
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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you?
    #286398 - 04/06/01 01:37 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

natural drugs can hurt you also you moron



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: Alone In The Fire]
    #286497 - 04/06/01 02:13 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

oh really? so you been believeing the liberals then. I'm sorry. to bad you don't know any better. If used in moderation it won't do a thing to you. maybe if you did it way too much like a pound a day then yeah it might. but I doubt it.



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: Taz]
    #286531 - 04/06/01 02:34 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Amanitas are a natural drug. That's all I think I have to say.



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: the universe]
    #286533 - 04/06/01 02:36 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

There are plenty of natural drugs that are poisonous. Jimpson Weed? hmmmm thats just one



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: Taz]
    #286825 - 04/06/01 08:24 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

you do know that weed isn't healthy right? Just that some idiots think it can be used for medicinal purposes does not mean it is safe, unless taken in pill form(thc) or using a vaporizer. Smokeing weed (which has over 400chems in it) cause the 400 chems to turn into thousands and there will be some which are toxic.
All those morons who have cancer and still smoke it to get rid of the pain are idiots, 1st it cause cancer 2nd there are drugs which would work better, but if your bent on smoking up i guess you'll make up anyting.

Although only thing i can even think of which mushrooms can cause is a possible damage to serotonin receptor, but this is just a theory. But in comaprison to any other drugs i'd say mushies are some of the safest drugs you can take.

Oh yeh taz ever heard of a chem called scoploamine well it's found in the Corkwood tree(Duboisia myoporoides) which was used as a sedative to treat sea sickness during the ww2. Anyways yeh after it's great trippy feeling (flying ) if enough was consumed you kinda die.

Many other "natural" drugs can kill you, you must be very ignorant to think otherwise.

"big brother doesn't want you to have any fun, dosen't want you to even think about having fun."

O don't know about that statement, firstly its coming form a very bias source, a drug user, i am sure there are alot of normal people who don't want people dooing drugs in there neighborhood and influencing there kids, thats why i think the drug laws are fair for the most part. People who want to do em do tem, and do them privately.

"wrong news propaganda the government puts out" as opposed to the stuff you tell them or say other druggies? I'm not saying druggies are lieing or anything just that everyone must come up with there own conclusion and not just believ a source from either side.













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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: hubertd8]
    #286861 - 04/06/01 09:08 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

welcome back herbertD, missed ya flaming me. first of all, if a person drinks are smokes cigs, thats concidered a drug in itself by most. almost anything anymore can be considered a drug, so a statement from "druggies" can be from just about anyone. and no herbert, I don't sit around and study every drug natural are unnatral like you seem to do. I have my preferences and will stand behind them. now if it harms me then that's on me, I don't need government are you are anybody else to tell me it's going to harm me.

just about any kind of food you consume these days will harm you in one way are the other. and just because a person want's to sit around and get high doesn't mean they should be locked up, but if of course they are selling it to kids then yeah they should be put away!

Anyway, glad to see your back herbertD, it's been kind of calm around here with you gone. (are maybe you wasn't gone but just didn't post anything)



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Invisibleotto i love ta get blotto
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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: hubertd8]
    #286912 - 04/06/01 11:10 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

"all those morons who have cancer and still smoke it to get rid of the pain are idiots,"

ok, lets confine YOU to a bed, hooked up to a bunch of machines, pump toxic chemicals into you to kill your cancer, chemicals that make your hair fall out, make you feel like complete SHIT, and give you nonstop naseau to the point where you cant keep anything down, and youre so weakyou cant get out of bed so you shit yourself because your body cant absorb any nutriens since you deposit them orally into your bedpan three times a day. then well see how bad you wanna smoke a joint so you can work a hot-dog through your digestive tract without vomiting like a fire hydrant, or get even five minutes into your day that arent filled with incessant mind-numbing pain, do you think youll care if that joint gives you more cancer?
fuck no you wouldnt.
"there are other drugs available that work better"
maybe so but side effects tip the scales way in the favor of pot in my book, id much rather smoke a plant that grows than put some man made shit in me that would fuck up who knows what. and you should be able to choose ANY treatment you want for yourself, if you dont like pot because "it gives you cancer" fine, but dont take the choice away from me.
once you hear your grandma moaning in pain on her deathbed youll change your mind, she had no choice to smoke weed because people think like you.

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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: otto i love ta get blotto]
    #287039 - 04/06/01 06:15 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

well said..the pot isn't primarily for the pain but almost entirly used to enact the munchies.

Relax, Relax, Relax.....it's just a little pin prick * there'll be no more AARRGGHHH!!!! but you may feel a little sick.....


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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #287389 - 04/07/01 04:03 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

yall want to hear some funny sh|t? Taz just claims that natural drugs cant hurt you .................. YET he just stated in a different thread that psilocybin was poisen! HAHAHAHA
here is my guess- his brain is so exausted from the bathtub crank he admits to using, OR he is twelve years old (types like it dont he)



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: cL0k_w0Rk]
    #287505 - 04/07/01 07:11 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

What's a bath tub crank?

Relax, Relax, Relax.....it's just a little pin prick * there'll be no more AARRGGHHH!!!! but you may feel a little sick.....


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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you?
    #287515 - 04/07/01 07:30 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

cocaine is as natural as hash. Lets see poison ivy, allthough not a drug, is natural. Try smoking that dumbo.



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: otto i love ta get blotto]
    #287574 - 04/07/01 10:06 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

"pump toxic chemicals into you to kill your cancer, chemicals that make your hair fall out, make you feel like complete SHIT, and give you nonstop naseau to the point where you cant keep anything down, and youre so weak you cant get out of bed so you shit yourself because your body cant absorb any nutriens since you deposit them orally into your bedpan three times a day. then well see how bad you wanna smoke a joint so you can work a hot-dog through your digestive tract without vomiting like a fire hydrant, or get even five minutes into your day that arent filled with incessant mind-numbing pain, do you think youll care if that joint gives you more cancer? "

i really don't feel like arguing but your argument makes no sense, "pump toxic chemicals into you to kill your cancer, chemicals that make your hair fall out" these chemicals have saved thousands of lives, if your mom or a loved one was sick wouldn't you rather have them pumped full of these chems and live or just smoke up so they " can work a hot-dog through your digestive tract ". I agree with you that everyone should have a choice, to a certain extent, but up here in canada the laws are so stupid regarding this issue. There are 3 classes of med pot use here, 1 is terminal-diseases 2. stuff such as hiv aids, cancer, spinal cord damage etc and the main one i totally disagree with; 3 As long as your doc believes that it will help you and is willing to give you a script, although it is difficult too get the pot now, it will change with licensed growers.

So i still don't believe that pot works any better then other drugs to help you. And i guess is you think it will work then it, many people have complained that med pot is just another attempt to reach legalization asnd that patients with terminal diseases are being used unfairly to achieve this.


'and you should be able to choose ANY treatment you want for yourself" not if the treatment will cause more harm to you then benifits, like what if i wanted to use crack to treat my cancer, do you think i should be able to make such a decision with ? If you don't have the knowledge to make a proper desicion then your not the one who should be making it, choosing treatments is what doc's do because they can properly weight out the benifits and side effects, you can not do this , that is unless you have a med degree, do you?




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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: Taz]
    #287582 - 04/07/01 10:21 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Firstly taz i really have no intentions of flaming you, i'm just waiting for those pics, thats all.

"if a person drinks are smokes cigs, thats concidered a drug in itself by most. almost anything anymore can be considered a drug, so a statement from "druggies" can be from just about anyone. "
well this isn't really a alcohol/cig web site no is it?

", I don't sit around and study every drug natural are unnatral like you seem to do. I have my preferences and will stand behind them. now if it harms me then that's on me, I don't need government are you are anybody else to tell me it's going to harm me. "

So let me understand you, your against educating yourself on the drugs you do or claim to know anything about, right? I will never reuse to be corrected about an issue concerning drugs, i realize that there are those who know more, and i accept there criticism since i can only learn from it. I will however try to find out as much as possible about a drug i want to do prior to doing it, in order to make a educated evaluation of its effects. And if thats what your implying with "I don't sit around and study every drug natural are unnatral" then you are correct, except i know little concerning most drugs i haven'r tried.

"I don't need government are you are anybody else to tell me it's going to harm me. "

so what do you base your decision to try it on ?

Anyways you seem to change the subject of your post quite abit, perhaps if you read abit more, you would be able to hold up an arguement instead of claiming everyone who corrects you is flaming you.










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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: hubertd8]
    #287598 - 04/07/01 11:12 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Hubert, i have to say that i almost completely disagree wtih your assessment of the situation regarding medicinal marijuana. Researchers have not been able to find ANY link between marijuana smoking and lung cancer. There is simply no study that actually shows a link, and several that show no link.

In addition, the drug laws are MOST definitely hurting alot more people than they are helping. We are living in a time of prohibition and have the same types of crimes as were present during the time of alcohol prohibition. The fact is that countries in the world that have legalized drugs have a LOWER use rate, and a MUCH lower crime rate. The drugs are safer, cheaper, and education is more easily accessable.

Right now, almost all harm that drugs cause is due to the illegality of them. Approximately 8000 people died last year because of all illegal drugs combined in the United States. NOBODY has ever died with the cause being marijuana smoking. To give you a contrast: 100,000 people died last year because of pharmaceutical drugs. 2.3 million people had to go to the hospital because of them (less than 5000 emergency room visits around the WORLD last year because of "e"), 120,000+ people died because of alcohol, and400,000 people died because of tobacco.

Where does the damage come from now?

The fact is that marijuana has been shown to have almost ZERO negative side effects, and has MANY MANY KNOWN beneficial effects: increased appetite, decreased nausea, helps with insomnia, helps with anxiety, helps with pain (recent research has shown that in some cases, marijuana is a more powerful pain reliever than even morphine).

Crack cocaine has no medicinal value, powder cocaine does, that is why it is schedule 2. Heroin has medicinal value, but since morphine is a better pain killer, heroin is schedule 1. Marijuana has been shown by repeated studies over the past several decades to have MULTIPLE medicinal uses, and yet, the federal government continues to deny all studies that show support for this position.

The facts stand in opposition to your claims.

Legalization of drugs reduces crime. Pot does not cause cancer, and DOES have medicinal value. And compared to "pharmaceuticals", illegal drugs are statistically much more safe.

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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: hubertd8]
    #287602 - 04/07/01 11:37 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

hurbert you are one dumb fucking moron. I hate resorting to name calling but it is the truth. I am not going to waste my time pointing out specifically which statements you have made in this thread that make me want to smash your head in with a brick, but i can say for certain that you have probably been polluting these forums with an arrogant attitude and misinformed opinions since you have been here.



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: Alone In The Fire]
    #287836 - 04/07/01 10:01 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

ok alone in the fire, I take that statement back here is a quote for you,"sterile non-chemicalized organic substrate will produce clean shrooms with no "extra" noxiousness to them except the usual psilocybian trip tinged with low but definitely feelable "toxic" effects. After all, psilocybin is regarded as "toxic" - albeit low - but still that. The side effects of psilocybin can not be escaped if more than a threshold dose is taken"

This post is also for that moron clokwork who doesn't think that psilocybin is posion. what do you think makes you trip? And yes clokwork people have overdosed on mushies before. The more you take in the higher the precentage gets. there was a guy not to long along, I forget when and where< I believe he was in europe. who took so many magic mushrooms that he died. they found a vary high consentration of psilocybin in his system. it was extremly high.



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: extraterrestrial2]
    #287928 - 04/08/01 12:43 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

I've read that is humanely impossible to eat enough mushrooms to kill yourself. I've also read that psilocybin isn't poison. It just acts as a neurotransmitter. LSD isn't toxic, and it makes you trip. I'm just curious as to where you got your information, it sounds like something I should look into a bit more.

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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: Taz]
    #287999 - 04/08/01 02:26 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Any chemical can kill or cause damage. Safe and toxic are not black and white terms. What matters is to what degree a drug is dangerous. Shrooms are very unlikely to cause any permanent damage by themselves at prudent doses, a bigger worry would be the exacerbation of any underlying mental health issues. They are also mild stimulants, and I would imagine someone with a serious heart condition or significantly high blood pressure would want to avoid them, or at least be extra careful.



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: UrQuattro]
    #288042 - 04/08/01 03:34 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

"Researchers have not been able to find ANY link between marijuana smoking and lung cancer" what, what about the toxins and CO your inhaling??? you really should read more about this subject.

"In addition, the drug laws are MOST definitely hurting alot more people than they are helping" I totally disagree with this statement and most who have been in rehab or had an addiction would agree. Few have the will power to stop when its time, that is why most drug laws exsist.

"The fact is that countries in the world that have legalized drugs have a LOWER use rate, and a MUCH lower crime rate." I totally agree with you here, but i really don't think America is ready for something like this.

"To give you a contrast: 100,000 people died last year because of pharmaceutical drugs. 2.3 million people had to go to the hospital because of them (less than 5000 emergency room visits around the WORLD last year because of "e"), 120,000+ people died because of alcohol, and400,000 people died because of tobacco. "

thanx i guess your just supporting some of my argument, this is what would happen if most drugs were to be legalized.

"ZERO negative side effects" your being ignorant if you actually bewlieve this.

I really don't see the point in arguing further since everyone will have there say about legalization and therfore it is pointless to argue, I guess its just a matter of opinion.

thanx, no offence intendent to anyone





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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: Taz]
    #288060 - 04/08/01 03:56 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

wow i am actually going to agree with you on this one, i think my lethal dose is about 20.1 gr, at least according to the LD50 .

So why did you make a statement such as your previous one? well i guess if you learn in the process then it's all cool, take care.



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: extraterrestrial2]
    #288067 - 04/08/01 04:05 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

lol, your so funny, ". I am not going to waste my time pointing out specifically which statements you have made in this thread that make me want to smash your head in with a brick"

probably because you don't really know shit all bout this and it would take you hours of research (which you have made clear you don't like to do) looking for info contradicting me, whether it is bias or not. You are a real ignorant person, med pot is a very debated subject, and look here thats what we are doing, if you don't agree with my views fine. But why are you being such an ass, why not show your opinion in a formal manner, instead of just making empty statements.

"misinformed opinions" lets look at the definition of opinion:
judgement or belief not founded on certanty or proof, a point open to question. (Collins english Dict. and Thes.) Well i guess your the one misinformed, opinions are what debates occur over, you see that is what we are doing over here on these forums.

thanx it was fun





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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: hubertd8]
    #288093 - 04/08/01 04:39 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

You must have a less than average intelligence if you can not understand the concept of an informed opinion as opposed to a misinformed opinion hurbert.

All unbiased scientific research conducted on the subject of medical marijuana has come to the conclusion that it is a safe and effective drug for treating a wide variety of medical disorders.

Hurbert you are a sad, sorry individual. It is clear to everyone reading your uninformed statements that you have swallowed up the governments bull shit and have asked for seconds.

The safty and effectiveness of medical marijuana is not being debated in the scientific community. What is being debated is the politics of medical marijuana. pharmaceutical companies don't want medical marijuana legalized so they lobby politicians. The reason they do not want medical marijuana legalized is because it is such an effective medicine and they wouldn't have control of it. They can't patton a plant, but they certainly can patton analogs of the active cannabinoid (thc). So by keeping marijuana illegal they will be able to patton synthetic cannabinoids and set the price.

It is as simple as that. You are the one who needs to do research you arrogant SOB.




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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: hubertd8]
    #288145 - 04/08/01 06:05 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

well I dunno, we did have an individual on this board who in fact ate over 20 pounds of shrooms...lol

hubert to say you gracefully accept criticism is quite a reach. you and I have had a tiff or two on previous occasions I think. everybody does it now and again. best thing to do in any case is stick to your guns, cite your sources, and be able to admit you're wrong if you are. i think you do that.

to anyone that says inhaling pot smoke doesn't give you lung cancer...you're fucking stupid. carbon monoxide is never healthy, and I'm sure there are other products of combustion in there that are pretty nasty too. inhaling smoke is not what lungs were meant for and they don't like it very much at all.

like someone said (xylo i think but i am too lazy to check) any substance is toxic if you have enough, hell drink enough water and you can die. tylenol regularly causes problems for people.

to anyone who will only do "natural" drugs--hemlock is natural and makes a killer tea, cook some up asap. the best way to be safe about your drug use is to use drugs that have a long history and known risks, and base any decisions about your use on those risks.

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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: hubertd8]
    #288158 - 04/08/01 06:31 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

herbertd, that guy is so full of shit it is not even funny anymore. what an idiot! he's only attacking you because he wish's he can be 1/10 as smart as you. at least when you make statements you break it all down and it mmakes and interesting read as well as an arguement. so what are you going to school for? to be a lawyer, your pretty good at arguing and I'll give you that.

extrawannabeastrial2 is a troll and a sock puppet. herbertd you break it down for him and state facts (who cares if it's the exact truth the point still gets across) then all he can do is call you names like a little kid. keep it up herb I enjoy your posts. they are practical and make sense. and if dipshit is so convinced he's right and your wrong then why don't he take the time to do a little research then come back and prove it LOL. he totally cracks me up with his stupidity. he's just jealous because your smarter than he is! hah



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: Taz]
    #288176 - 04/08/01 07:04 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

either you are hurbertd are one and the same or you really enjoy licking his sweet ass.



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: extraterrestrial2]
    #288515 - 04/08/01 08:19 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

you just proved my point extraterrestrial2....



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: hubertd8]
    #288584 - 04/09/01 03:34 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Hubertd8, that's not 20.1 grams of mushrooms, that's PURE psilocybin.
When you consider that the average gram of psilocybe cubensis contains 2mg of psilocybin..... to eat 20g of psilocybin you would need 10kg of shrooms (That's 22 pounds so technically 21poundsofshrooms could have really eaten that many shrooms and survived depending on how big a person he is). Now that is a fucking lot of mushrooms.
I suppose you could eat that many if you were really hell bent on it and you had guts of steel, or you could use a more potent species if you really wanted to OD. I believe there is there are a few documented cases of fatal overdose on mushrooms, I'm not sure what species were involved though, and at least one of them was a small kid.

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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: Fina]
    #288597 - 04/09/01 03:51 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

21 was a troll of the highest quality. he claimed to eat 21 pounds of fresh shrooms and then he decided he had actually only eaten 3 pounds. since fresh mushrooms are 90% water your calculations are way of. the point is that 21 was a spam artist. he was completely ridiculous in the most hilarious way.



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: extraterrestrial2]
    #288609 - 04/09/01 04:00 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

DRUGS ARE BAD.........MMMKAY!



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: extraterrestrial2]
    #288615 - 04/09/01 04:03 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

No they're not, I was talking about dry mushrooms.
I forgot that 21pounds claimed he had eaten 21 pounds of FRESH shrooms. I don't believe he did, but he could have without worrying about actually ODing.... it's just that I can't think of any reason why anybody would ever want to. Anyway lets not go into all this again. :)

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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: Fina]
    #288669 - 04/09/01 05:13 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

yeh your right, sorry bout the mistake,



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: extraterrestrial2]
    #288672 - 04/09/01 05:18 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

"sweet ass." damn straight,

me and taz kinda argue alot but lately we've been getting along just fine, i really don't know what your problem is but i really don't care, so quit bothering me.



Edited by hubertd8 on 04/08/01 10:26 PM.



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: Krendle]
    #288676 - 04/09/01 05:26 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

actually i only am that way when it comes to research chems, most other things i'm willing to admit when i'm wrong.




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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: hubertd8]
    #288726 - 04/09/01 06:44 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

hey herbert, if you do the research yeah you can act any way ya want. and if dude would have asked you I'm sure you would have pointed him in the right direction so he could go see for himself. And as far as arguing alot...it's all in good fun and yes I have to admit I have been wrong a couple of times but at least I learned something. your alright herbertD. Actually I'm glad you did do some research because just talking with people can get facts mixed up which is what seems to always happen. peace,,,,,,,



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: hubertd8]
    #289319 - 04/10/01 05:00 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

lol i remember...

anyway 21lbs was the pinnicle (sp) of trollery on this site.

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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: hubertd8]
    #289495 - 04/10/01 08:49 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

This is old, I know. And Taz (or taz) and I have had our differences lately.

So I want to say 2 things instead of one.

I'm feeling hostile after reading this thread (I got my beer/weed buzz on).

So, for number 1:

Rycin (it comes from castor beans, available from your friendly neighborhood seed company).

And 2: After reading this... Aww never mind, I ain't got room for everyone.



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: MNmyc]
    #289506 - 04/10/01 08:58 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

shrooms made me grow another head on my dick and and testicles are so swollen that every time I sit down I squish them into the shape of Jay Leno. And every time I piss head #1 screams at me for making uric acid pour from its mouth.



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: manwithoutaface]
    #289513 - 04/10/01 09:06 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

On a serious note (for those of you who couldn't tell i was lying), Shrooms can cause flashbacks. Although only a small percentage of users experience flashbacks, there is still a risk. I know, I suffer from almost continuous perception changes after even my first trip. The answer to the question is yes and no depending on what you worried about. There is no real brain "damage" caused by shrooms and they aren't even close to as hard on your body as cigs or booze, there is the chance that an unrecognized psychological disorder may appear after use or a current one could be exascerbated. Flashbacks can get on your nerves a little also.



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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: Alone In The Fire]
    #20784343 - 11/02/14 11:29 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Okayyy okayyy now the knowledge on medical marijuana are growing rapidly faster and faster everyday and soonly it will be pretty much legal all over the states, now some research is being put into the positive effects of medical hallucinogenic mushrooms, well there has been for a while but most experiments with drugs died pretty rapidly either due to lack of funders or shut down for obvious reasons, the use of medical marijuana as of 2014 has exploded from helping everything from seizures, cancer and even ebola. Feel free to look up the articicles from the Huffington post, wake up world, ifl science, and many other articles can be found. Face it sometimes nature knows what its doing, people have know of the healing properties of these drugs for thousands apon thousands of years but modern medicine which couldn't fairly regulate such things and the community also skeptical about the mind altering effect of said drugs had put the once peaceful and healthy gifts of nature into an all round war with violence and life sentences for a fair fight for natural medicine and college kids trying to experiment.


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Re: Are Shrooms bad for you? [Re: cthulhus dealer]
    #20784475 - 11/03/14 12:09 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

cthulhus dealer said:
Okayyy okayyy now the knowledge on medical marijuana are growing rapidly faster and faster everyday and soonly it will be pretty much legal all over the states, now some research is being put into the positive effects of medical hallucinogenic mushrooms, well there has been for a while but most experiments with drugs died pretty rapidly either due to lack of funders or shut down for obvious reasons, the use of medical marijuana as of 2014 has exploded from helping everything from seizures, cancer and even ebola. Feel free to look up the articicles from the Huffington post, wake up world, ifl science, and many other articles can be found. Face it sometimes nature knows what its doing, people have know of the healing properties of these drugs for thousands apon thousands of years but modern medicine which couldn't fairly regulate such things and the community also skeptical about the mind altering effect of said drugs had put the once peaceful and healthy gifts of nature into an all round war with violence and life sentences for a fair fight for natural medicine and college kids trying to experiment.



Nice block of words. This thread is 13 years old. :thumbup: The people who posted in this thread probably have grand-kids now.


Edited by ak47myth (11/03/14 12:09 AM)


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