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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: spammaps]
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syd barret was a coward, how do you like that? Not much Im sure.

Id have no reason to call a great dead man a coward.

As nutty as they both may have been.

Syd isolated himself from most "normal things" at some point..... Was he also a coward?

What ever he did it fucked his ass up pretty nicely.

So when your sig is of syd, you just need to forgive me for calling you a total asshole.

Edit:
Didnt read much of that last post because im going to sleep soon.
Sorry, I just think you are damn near retarded.

I wont read analyzation of a post that was stated very clearly.

I didnt claim how big your dick is, it was a metaphore. Thats the first part I read and because thats the first thing you said I decided that the post was not worth my time.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

Edited by yageman (07/01/07 01:08 AM)

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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: yageman]
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yageman said:
syd barret was a coward, how do you like that? Not much Im sure.

Id have no reason to call a great dead man a coward.

As nutty as they both may have been.

Syd isolated himself from most "normal things" at some point..... Was he also a coward?

What ever he did it fucked his ass up pretty nicely.

So when your sig is of syd, you just need to forgive me for calling you a total asshole.


I don't need to forgive you because I agree with you.

SURPRISE!!

I think he was terrified that he couldn't replicate his earlier success, and that (coupled with a general laziness that defies description and a very delicate mental sensibility to begin with) prompted him to back out of Pink Floyd and flee from the spotlight. I don't for a single minute believe that he was an "acid casualty" or even schizophrenic.

I like him because he created High Art with his work in Floyd and his later solo efforts, raw as they may be. I like him because Piper was the album that brought me to where I am today as a person, and I can listen to that album again, and again, and again.

But I will be the first person to assert that he was afraid, and his fear drove him from attempting to follow-up on his prior successes. He heard the criticisms from all of those acolytes who had previously praised his vision, and he felt the hot breath of other true talent (namely Roger Waters) breathing down his back.

He folded.

Can we be friends now?


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Syd Barrett at his final appearance with Pink Floyd on December 22, 1967:


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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: Astral Piper]
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Ya, we are friends now. We both are very good at the flame game after all.

BAck to the subject:

"Fear and Loathing was lame"

I dont think hunter or syd were cowards. Totally different, and totally weird.

I was kidding aroung for the most part.
Fear and loathing was a fuckin good movie in my opinion. Pretty close to the book(minus the *possibly* necessary special effects and great side-stories and articulation found in the book).


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: Astral Piper]
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Astral Piper said:
But I will be the first person to assert that he was afraid, and his fear drove him from attempting to follow-up on his prior successes. He heard the criticisms from all of those acolytes who had previously praised his vision, and he felt the hot breath of other true talent (namely Roger Waters) breathing down his back.

He folded.

Can we be friends now?


Its sad, but likely true. Gilmore sure as hell gave him a run for his money, so to speak.
So much drama, such a great band.

.........Waters, is the opposite of barret in a way.
I have seen interviews with the amazing lyricist waters and wanted to punch his face in after some of the shit he said.
Hes really good at fucking up a good thing, and even a good question asked by an interviewer.

He is the snottiest idol I have in my books..........


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: yageman]
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This is a great movie, "lets get fucking wasted lol" kids wont appriciate it though.
It was all about dialogues and the feel, not about shiny efects.




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Edited by BuddyGuy (07/01/07 02:42 AM)

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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: BuddyGuy]
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I wonder if anyone here has seen Knocked Up?

I dont mean to spoil anything for anyone, but I think that movie, despite the fact that it has no special fx for the shroom scenes, depicts what the experience on shrooms is very very accurately. There was a simple communication of how one thinks, acts, sees and feels on mush. No visuals were needed to describe it.

In the same way, F&L uses some fx to help the viewer to understand the tremendous stress/strain that was on HST's psychoactive brain, and how he seems to handle every situation magnificently. It wasn't supposed to be a movie that showed you the visuals of the different drugs. It was supposed to show you how this guy was so fucked up in the head, yet survived somehow. That is the wacky humor of the movie. Its just a nutty trip, plus the dialog is some of the wiliest stuff ever.

In short, you missed the point. You expected a psychadellic visual porno, and all you got was a smart film about the power and nature of various psychs. You want a psych porno? Go watch the Brady Bunch movie, they have a great mushroom trip scene...


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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: BuddyGuy]
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i love that movie (F&L), i've watched it about 20 times and every time i watch it again i pick up a new thing that i missed the time before, a movie where i can always learn something about it.

They did an awesome job of capturing that crazed, scattery "where the fuck am I" feel, and just make it with the (as the OP stated) little resources they had. i fucking loved it. i love it when he says "jesus... did i just say that or think it? can they hear me?" i fucking LOVE it. the first time i saw it I was like "FUCK YES THAT'S IT"
i loved it, i loved hell's angels (i think they should make that into a movie) and f&l las vegas was freakin sweet and I absolutely fucking love how good a job they did of turning into into a movie.
his books, but his letters bore me (I fail to see the point in publishing them) and he was a good writer, socially he was awkward (i love those interviews he has on tv where the host is just sucking his asshole and he's just liike "yeah, well, whatever I'm just a guy"

I'd hate to hit the booze with him because he'd turn into a cunt, but fuck i admire him for what he did and just fisted america with his gonzo craziness.

he was a legend in his own right, and a very unique figure for the counter culture of the US.

T

Edited by indica (07/01/07 03:17 AM)

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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: indica]
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Raoul Duke: There's a uh, big machine in the sky, some kind of, I dunno, electric snake, coming straight at us.
Dr. Gonzo: Shoot it.
Raoul Duke: Not yet, I want to study its habits.


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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: BuddyGuy]
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bwaha.
best movie ever.

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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: yageman]
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I'm going to rate a member of this Board for the very first time, and that lucky (or unlucky person, depending on how you look at it I suppose) is YOU.

I'm giving you 5 Mushrooms because:

(1)  You have helped me to learn a lesson (seriously - no bullshit) about myself, and patience, and my slowly improving emotional intelligence

(2)  You have balls (unlike a certain passive aggressive moderator) and I can respect that

(3)  You made an effort to come over to my side, even in the heat of an emotional flaming match, once you perceived a common basis for agreement (this is even more impressive when the subject of agreement - Syd Barrett - had nothing to do with our initial argument)

(4)  You like Syd Barrett

(5)  You obviously read my trip report and commented favorably even in the heat of battle

Tits-up to you, Yage.  This Board needs more people like you, and fewer infantile douche bags who possess a thesaurus and no backbone or intellectual fortitude.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:


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Syd Barrett at his final appearance with Pink Floyd on December 22, 1967:


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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: Astral Piper]
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:blowme:

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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: indica]
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Sorry you feel that way. It must suck not getting your required amount of DICK lately.

Good luck with that!


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Syd Barrett at his final appearance with Pink Floyd on December 22, 1967:


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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: Astral Piper]
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-no flaming-

Edited by OneMoreRobot3021 (07/01/07 10:32 AM)

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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: Astral Piper]
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Quote:
Also, he committed suicide, which is a sign to me of gutless cowardice.


More like anyone who lives to old age is a coward because he has chosen to be an old fuck who suffers every day and makes everyone to take care of him rather than kill himself.

You pro-life people make me sick.


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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: indica]
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Not Jewish. Not named after a faggotized fruit called a 'kiwi' either. Hooray for me!


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Syd Barrett at his final appearance with Pink Floyd on December 22, 1967:


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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: Astral Piper]
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ftw?

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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: BuddyGuy]
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That is definitely the STUPIDEST thing I have seen posted on this Board yet, and that is really saying something.

I have been to Vilnius, and I like the Baltic peoples, but you have just proven that there are poorly developed specimens of human beings everywhere on this planet.

Suicide is selfish, plain and simple. If you can't comprehend that then you have a real problem, or are so driven by the vagaries of a 'death culture' that you really need some form of an adjustment.

BTW, if you think that offing one's self if a classic act of selflessness, then why don't you lead the parade to the extermination chambers?


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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: Astral Piper]
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i have a lot of respect for people who commit suicide. it's a fallacy to say they are cowardice for doing so, it is a complicated matter that should not be judged by people who don't understand.

live and let die

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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: Astral Piper]
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Selfish is to DEMAND someone to live if he doesnt want to.
Isnt this a free world? Life/death, your choice.


Maybe samurais in ancient Japan were cowards too? Hardly..


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Edited by BuddyGuy (07/01/07 08:28 AM)

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Re: Fear and Loathing was lame [Re: BuddyGuy]
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Quote:
No More Games. No More Bombs. No More Walking. No More Fun. No More Swimming. 67. That is 17 years past 50. 17 more than I needed or wanted. Boring. I am always bitchy. No Fun -- for anybody. 67. You are getting Greedy. Act your old age. Relax -- This won't hurt.


Suicide is a very complex thing which I doubt anyone takes lightly.
Like Hunter Thompson notes in his suicide letter there is no need to get greedy. Death is as intrinsic to life as birth and should not be feared. Should I ever come to a point where I am too old and ill to continue living a decent life without burdening my loved ones then death will be welcome. I have no interest in forcing my friends and family to bear the pain of watching me suffer any sort of slow decay.
I especially dislike anyone who thinks that in such a position one should be forced to cling to life.
Death with dignity.


Fear and Loathing was an excellent movie. As many others have stated there wasn't a need for lots of special effects. The point of the film wasn't to be eye candy. Out of all movies I have ever viewed which were based upon a book I'd say FLLV takes the cake as being the best.
But as the case usually is the book is far more enjoyable than the film. Find a copy and have a read sometime, it is a rather short read but very entertaining.


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When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

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