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Literacy and Far-out Beliefs
    #6973878 -

Note: for the point of this discussion, I am referencing beliefs which have not been pounded in during childhood from parents and authorities, but adopted later.

It is my observation that those people who put full stock in unsubstantiated beliefs tend to have poor spelling and grammar (in general) and less cohesive thoughts at least as far as written expression.

Now this is not meant to be a slamming. I just wonder if it has to do with brain structure and /or which hemisphere is most emphasized.

Seems that those with the most mathematical and logical minds tend to be much more skeptical of such claims than those who are more into imagination and have a poetic outlook on life. That same sort of mental precision (or imprecision as the case may be) is, not surprisingly, reflected in verbal and written expression.


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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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What the hell is a 'poetic outlook on life'?


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Quote:
Seems that those with the most mathematical and logical minds tend to be much more skeptical of such claims than those who are more into imagination and have a poetic outlook on life. That same sort of mental precision (or imprecision as the case may be) is, not surprisingly, reflected in verbal and written expression.


Seems to me that if we mix them both poetic mind and logic mind we get more out of both plus the subtle connections between them.


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #6973914 -

It could be true, then again I would use a different test to satisfy my theory, I have a relatively atrocious spelling habits but a high IQ... It doesn't always follow that one leads to the other.


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.

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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Literacy is certainly an indicator of intelligence, but I have personally seen some rather unintelligent atheists on this board(though not so much this particular forum) whose only arguments consist in calling believers stupid and/or crazy and rant about their "invisible friend."


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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #6973996 -

The word 'intelligence', nor any implication pointing towards it, is not to be found in my post. Seems you have a vivid imagination and atrocious spelling and thus meet my requirements for seeing things not in evidence.


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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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No but it certainly relates to literacy, as silversoul suggests... perhaps you missed my point altogether.


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.

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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: Psychoactive1984]
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Which is? Write s-l-o-w-l-y so that I may 'get it'. :yesnod:


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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
The word 'intelligence', nor any implication pointing towards it, is not to be found in my post. Seems you have a vivid imagination and atrocious spelling and thus meet my requirements for seeing things not in evidence.


Ok, so no implication pointing to intellect whatsoever in your post... Unsubstantiated arguments in no way relate to this? I didn't really want to bring this up, but since you insist i will, it does and remains pertinant to your discussion.

If you would like me to clarify further just ask.

Edit:
lit·er·a·cy /ˈlɪtərəsi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lit-er-uh-see] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. the quality or state of being literate, esp. the ability to read and write.
2. possession of education: to question someone's literacy.
3. a person's knowledge of a particular subject or field: to acquire computer literacy.

Edited by Psychoactive1984 (05/27/07 03:52 PM)

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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Seems that those with the most mathematical and logical minds tend to be much more skeptical of such claims than those who are more into imagination and have a poetic outlook on life.



I disagree... to a point.

Imagination, used in tandem with logic, is what propels humanity foreword.

The smartest humans understand the PHYSICAL world, then daydream about how to manipulate it. Finally they CREATE what they daydreamed about.

This requires effective communication between BOTH the Left AND Right hemispheres of the brain.

Skepticism can hinder human growth as much as ignorance can.


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Fiddlesticks.


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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
It is my observation that those people who put full stock in unsubstantiated beliefs tend to have poor spelling and grammar (in general) and less cohesive thoughts at least as far as written expression.


Language and its usage is a very dynamic thing. How many thousands of words there must be, and so many different manners of adhering to different notions of grammar.

It really makes one realize that there isn't really any uniform standard or notion of how statements "should" be phrased. Languages themselves evolve through those who use and think through such languages interacting with others who primarily use and think in a different language, with different styles of grammar and different manners of forming words with letters.

Communication simply isn't limited to any specific avenue and the wide variety in the tens of thousands of languages acrossed this planet testifies this. Usually, if someone is actually interested in understanding what others say, they consciously apply effort to understand, and certainly are free to engage in communication to better understand what they are expressing.

That is how understanding is developed, and that is how language evolves. Communication. Some people seek communication honestly. :shrug:

Society itself exists through communication, through interaction. Our development as a civilization was spearheaded by our drive to understand and to be understood by others. :craven:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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this really brings out the school marm (excuse the spelling there is none other) in you.
and while you are right in everything, usually, you miss by miles when you include the poetic among the misspelled masses.


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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: redgreenvines]
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See, you are the perfect example. :thumbup:

There is no standard by which thought must be expressed in accordance with.

Oh, but how could we ever function as a society if we did not strictly adhere to a specific, objective standard as to how language must be utilized? :rolleyes:

:rofl2:

Oh no its the Apocalypse. :lol:

:whistling:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: fireworks_god]
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Quote:
Oh no its the Apocalypse. :lol:

:whistling:


Any Apocalypse wish? :naughty:
:lol:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: MushroomTrip]
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A voyage for two to a new galaxy? :earth:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: fireworks_god]
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You must be a mind reader :loveeyes:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: MushroomTrip]
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Maybe I should take a Swami Challenge? :naughty:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: fireworks_god]
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I can definitely testify for you :naughty:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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I feel that your premise may be flawed. This forum is filled to the brim with people holding unsubstantiated beliefs as fact. I am one of those people, and so are you. Most people on this forum are very well read and literate, but theres all kinds of crazy beliefs being bandied about here. We don't all share the same delusion, but we are all hopelessly delusional.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Literacy and Far-out Beliefs [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Especially you. :tongue:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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