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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69350 - 12/22/99 04:42 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

i have little bugs near mine too, but mine are flying ones.

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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69352 - 12/22/99 11:26 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

blow crack smoke on them :wink:


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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69353 - 12/23/99 11:54 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Time to dry the casing out.
Don't give them,(bugs) a good home.
Seal all holes in your setup, and proceed with caution.
A small piece of insect strip in your terrarium, might slow them down.
A light dusting of lime also may help.


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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69354 - 12/24/99 01:09 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I'm casing using the Shroom Wizard's tek, so I'm not using a terrarium. The bugs don't seem to be causing any damage though.

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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69355 - 12/26/99 12:20 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like fungus mites. They are similar to plant mites that suck the juices from leaves. They breed fast and can reach huge populations in a few weeks. I once had a tray of B+ get infected with some. They were so thick I could see thousands of them when I looked close. When I dumped out the tray, the bottom looked mummified by having all of the mites sucking the juices from the mycelium. I set a bug bomb off in my chamber and that seemed to do the trick, but all cultures had to be destroyed.

Check to see if your "bugs" move slowly and have 8 legs and a spiderlike body. They are real small and you will need a hand lens to count the legs. Color can vary. Mine were whitish/clear but there is a red variety called a pepper mite.



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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69356 - 12/26/99 12:47 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Oh, no way. These bugs have wings, and are about the size of gnats I guess. I can easily see the legs, there are like four. These bugs are black and there aren't very many of them.

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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69357 - 12/26/99 01:18 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I always get flying gnats in a few of my casings. I'm using shroom wizards casing tek also. They don't seem to hurt anything at all. They don't eat the shrooms, the just like to live in the soil. And they do multiply fast. I figure if they ate the shrooms it wouldn't be long till their all dead or trippin nuts. Anyway, does anyone know what these bugs are called. It seems we all have the same flying gnats. Maybe there is eggs in the potting soil we use?


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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69358 - 12/26/99 01:32 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Well, a FOAF had these too with a B+ casing and a few cakes. They seemed to really sow down the growth. But my FOAF found out that the slower the shroom developes the more potent it'll be. My FOAF had like tens of fatasses as a consequence of these bags. These shrooms were the most potent cubensis my FOAF ever tried. Man, he said they were fucking great. It seems the longer it takes the shroom to grow, the more potent it'll be (and it makes sense too)...


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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69359 - 12/26/99 02:07 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I asked this question in a separate post, but no one seems to be answering it: why are my Matias Romero mushrooms taking so long to grow? I took the lid off about a week ago and they're barely an inch above the soil and there aren't very many of them at all. I want to use a heating pad, but I'm afraid there is a risk of fire or hurting the shrooms. Please help me.

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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69360 - 12/26/99 04:26 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I've had the ones that Workman spoke of and they destroyed my crop. One day there were only a few and a week later they had taken over. Very bad. Here are some pics from TMC:

Straw Mite:

Red Pepper Mite:

According to Stamets the presence of mites is "an indication of unsatisfactory substrate preparation and insufficient pasteurization times and/or temperatures".

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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69361 - 12/26/99 04:39 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69362 - 12/26/99 04:47 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

The winged ones sound suspiciously like spider mites...

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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69363 - 12/26/99 04:50 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Here are descriptions of four mites given by Stamets in TMC:

Order: Arcana
Family: Tyrogelyphidae
Genus/Species: T .vrophagus putrescentiae,
Caloglyphus mycophagus
Common Names: Straw or Hay Mites Discussion: Straw mites have soft translucent pinkish or yellowish bodies punctuated by long flexible hairs. One female is capable of producing 500 eggs in a lifetime. Commonly found in hay or straw piles, these saprophytic mites are endemic to foul compost. They feed on molds and bacterial contaminants of the mushroom crop and also eat mycelium and mushrooms, making small irregular pits in the stem and cap. These pits can later become infected by bacteria.

Order: Arcana Family: Eupodidae Genus/Species: Linopodes antennaepes
Common Name: Long Legged Mushroom Mite. Discussion: This mite is easily recognized by its long front legs which are twice the length of the light, yellowish brown body. It is not believed to be directly injurious to the mushroom crop and in fact is a predator on other mite species.

Order: Arcana Family- Tarsonemidae Genus/Species: Tarsonemus myceliophagus Common Name: The Mushroom Loving Mite. Discussion:
Tarsonemus mites are very small, 180-190 microns long, with pale brown, shin- ing, oval bodies. They occasionally swarm in masses on mushroom caps but otherwise are rarely seen except by microscopic examination. Females produce an average of 22 eggs in a lifetime of 2-8 weeks. These mites cause a bright reddish-brown discoloration at the base of the mushroom stem and may cut the stem's mycelial connections. Known to survive normal compost pasteurization temperatures, they can carry a virus disease to Agaricus brunnescens.

Order: Arcana Family: Pyemotidae Genus/Species: Pygmephorus sp.
Common Names: Red Pepper Mites; Pygmy Mites. Discussion: Pepper mites are small
(250 microns long) with yellowish brown, wedge-shaped bodies, crossed by a central
whitish band. Red pepper mites are often seen as a swarming jostling mass, on mushroom
caps or the surface of the casing. These mites are commonly associated with Penicillium and Trichoderma molds, upon which they feed.

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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69364 - 12/26/99 06:48 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

The small black flies are the adults - the maggots are the mythago's, the maggots eat mycelium and tunnel into mushrooms (What's worse than finding a worm in your mushroom - finding half a worm!)and breed like crazy and fly round the house. Use pyrethrum based spray - natural and effective for food crops.


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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69365 - 12/26/99 06:56 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Possibly phorid or sciarid flies - use a pyrethrum-based insecticide, as Benzl said.

Monsanto make one under the brand name 'Polysect' - it contains bifenthrin. You should find it in any good garden store. This will kill the little beasts, but, best of all, if used sparingly it will not harm your crop in any way, nor will you have to take any special care over picking them after they have been sprayed!

Bottle gives full instructions. Hope you nail the little ****ers.



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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69366 - 12/26/99 11:29 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I've never had a problem with the straw and pepper mites, but I get the small black flying bugs from time to time. The way I keep them under control is to keep a White Fly Sticky Board trap in my greenhouse and near my casings. There little yellow cardboard pieces about 4"5" with something very sticky on them that attracts a lot of flying pests such as white flies and black nats. They work well.. the nats go right for them and before you know it there all gone.
I find these boards at Home Depot, but have seen them in gardening sections of other stores.

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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69367 - 12/26/99 11:40 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

These insects are very strange...


They have wings, but I've never seen them fly.


There aren't very many of them, I've never seen maggots or females.


They just walk around on the top layer of soil really fast, they're hard to kill.


They don't seem to be affecting anything, they're just sitting around.


And they're too small to be flies.


These are strangs bugs, nothing dangerous, just a nusence(sp?).


If I had a digital camera, I'd take a picture, but I don't. Mayber I'll get one from the money I got from Chritmas.

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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69368 - 12/27/99 12:06 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

GREAT IDEA RYCHE! I never thought of that and I've been trying for a long time to find a way to rid these little bastartds. Cool :wink: I'll definately try that one. Thanx,

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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69369 - 12/29/99 05:11 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

LITTLE FUCKING BUGS!!!!!! (Thats funny!)


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Re: Little fucking BUGS...
    #69370 - 01/01/00 09:53 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

The fly paper is pretty good,but I saw one a few months ago that so many little black scum-bags on it that the amount of rotting fly meat on the paper had caused it to become a carpet of thick white fluff.


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