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OfflineJoHnNySc
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Re: don't throw out those contaminated jars...
    #68310 - 12/12/99 06:12 PM (24 years, 11 months ago)

just because you cut the conta ination out doesnt mean that it hasnt already done its damage. the so called healyth mycelium shared food with the bacteria and could have picked up some of its "nasties". The shrooms grown from the casing might be contaminated and if consumed could make you sick...

Does anyone agree with me??


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Re: don't throw out those contaminated jars... [Re: JoHnNySc]
    #68312 - 12/12/99 08:29 PM (24 years, 11 months ago)

It is possible, I tried that and ended up almost dying,well that was a farce, but got real sick. I am allergic to the mold (penicillin) so it was bad.

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OfflinePsiLLy Cybe
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Re: don't throw out those contaminated jars... [Re: JoHnNySc]
    #68313 - 12/13/99 01:32 AM (24 years, 11 months ago)

I dont know what all of you have heard, but you really should not just, "cut em out", i garuntee they still carry the bacterias and contams. that you saw. and not just penecilin habitats these jars, there are millions of contams that float around in your house. about 30% of those can kill if grown, think smart, dont fuck around.

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Offlinelares
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Re: don't throw out those contaminated jars... [Re: JoHnNySc]
    #68314 - 12/13/99 11:21 AM (24 years, 11 months ago)

I stick to my original point, which is that cultures that have not been overtaken by or are not heavily invaded by contaminants can be used on new spawn. Of course, be extra-careful when looking for contaminant growth on this new spawn.
Basically, this same little 'debate' has been going on here at the shroomery for several years. I still contend that if there isn't any visible damage to the mycelia or fruiting bodies, and if there is no visible contamination, then most likely the toxins/contaminants are present in inconsequential amounts. I'm sure *most* cultures, including yours, have tiny spots of contamination trying to get a foothold somewhere on them.
The issue of penicillin allergy is a whole other issue. I myself don't have this problem, but I'd advise anyone with serious allergies like this to be extremely careful.


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Re: don't throw out those contaminated jars... [Re: JoHnNySc]
    #68315 - 12/13/99 12:55 PM (24 years, 11 months ago)

Hey guys.....do you ever think about the thousands of millions of spores,molds,bacteria that lives on a cow shit with our mushy friends in the wild?
You'll eat anyway right?
So don't care about contaminations....
Only if the mushies are going rotten you should throw away...
Only if you are allergic to penicilline or similar you must be VERY cautios....
Sorry for my english folks.....

eat them!


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OfflineDan
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Re: don't throw out those contaminated jars... [Re: JoHnNySc]
    #68316 - 12/13/99 01:51 PM (24 years, 11 months ago)

ANY contamination of jars, petris, anything, should be disarded upon the moment of discovery. It is not so much that I am worried about getting sick from eating mushrooms off of contaminated mycelium, it is however the fact that once there is evidence of an impure culture, it jeopordizes the entire project. I dont really care what you choose to do, I am simply offering my opinion that contamination is exactly that. It MUST be rid of. If you keep it around you are just asking for it.

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OfflinePsilowarrior
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Re: don't throw out those contaminated jars... [Re: JoHnNySc] * 1
    #68317 - 12/13/99 02:02 PM (24 years, 11 months ago)

You are definately doing something wrong if your contamination problems are so severe that you feel the need to cut little peices out of contaminated cakes and use them.

You ought to spend some time thinking about how to improve your sterile technique and less time disecting your fucked up cakes.

Just a thought. Perhaps a little harsh but you get my point.


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Re: don't throw out those contaminated jars... [Re: JoHnNySc]
    #68318 - 12/14/99 07:42 AM (24 years, 11 months ago)

Just my 2 cents.
I have had many jars which have had a spot or two of contamination (dime sized) However, when I just let the mycelium grow as it would in the natural world, it overtook the small area of contamination.
I HAVE eaten the shrooms off of these cakes and I can say without a shadow of a doubt, "there is nothing wrong with em" (the PCN allergy thing I'm not too sure about though)
Anyway, think about it....the mycelium fights off infection every minute it is growing.
I do agree though that larger infections should be thrown out.
Grow smart. Try to limit contam's in the first place. But should you have a contam....wait and see if the mycelium takes it over. If not...throw it away.

Later, Tor


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Offlinelares
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Re: don't throw out those contaminated jars... [Re: JoHnNySc]
    #68319 - 12/13/99 10:06 PM (24 years, 11 months ago)

I happen to know exactly what caused the high contam rate, but it's a bit late for that. My point was and still is that saving some slices of mycelia instead of starting over from spore is much more effecient.
Besides, one of the points of agar has always been that one can cut out small spots of contam easily.
And the casing i made from those excised mycelia chunks is doing absolutely great right now, so it worked wonders for me. Much better than waiting weeks more to colonize a lot of spawn from spore.


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OfflinePsilowarrior
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Re: don't throw out those contaminated jars... [Re: JoHnNySc]
    #68320 - 12/13/99 10:21 PM (24 years, 11 months ago)

Now if your talking about using small uninfected peices of cakes to start other mycellial cultures in broth or on agar, or to make mycellium water. I think that's a great idea!

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