Sheepish said:

I personally don't think dancing ability has shit to do with musical talent.

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you know...I was thinking the same thing myself 

AJ4U said:

Il put up some marley

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Sheepish said:

I personally don't think dancing ability has shit to do with musical talent. And I can't pick anyone who would be greatest musical artist of our generation - I'm terrible at that.

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ApJunkie said:

Do you mean greatest amount of musical talent, or greatest influence on the generation through their music?

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jewunit said:

One more gripe, I don't really think the message you send through your music really has anything to do with musicianship. I mean, Operation Ivy has some great lyrics in my opinion, but I wouldn't even put them close to being good musicians.

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jewunit said:

One more gripe, I don't really think the message you send through your music really has anything to do with musicianship. I mean, Operation Ivy has some great lyrics in my opinion, but I wouldn't even put them close to being good musicians.

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jewunit said:

Yeah and I listen to predominantly jazz, and they don't really have jack shit to say. Because it's instrumental. I'm just saying that message doesn't play a role in musicianship. It is definitely important to me in other aspects of music as a whole, but not a figure of the equation of musicianship.

And Ubermensch, I wasn't saying that anyone was trying to downplay my guys or anything, just simply stating that I don't know if I could agree with all of your criteria, that's all.

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Ubermensch said:

Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation?

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The term "generation" is so loaded that I would never use it. Having stated that, I cannot answer your question.

One of the greatest musical artists that are contemporary to myself would be Tool. In Flames, Opeth, Borknagar... this question ultimately reduces down to "who is your favorite artist that has been active in your life-time?".

fireworks_god said:

Ubermensch said:

Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation?

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The term "generation" is so loaded that I would never use it. Having stated that, I cannot answer your question.

One of the greatest musical artists that are contemporary to myself would be Tool. In Flames, Opeth, Borknagar... this question ultimately reduces down to "who is your favorite artist that has been active in your life-time?".

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jewunit said:

Whoa whoa whoa, you obviously didn't read who my artists were.

What jazz do you listen to where a "message" is sent. You can play something and convey emotion, but I'm not going to get messages from a piece unless I'm told beforehand what it means.

I'd appreciate it if you didn't question who I listen to, because if you don't know any of those names then you have no right to do it.

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One of the greatest musical artists that are contemporary to myself would be Tool.

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Ferris said:

I haven't heard a single good suggestion...

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blasphemy!

am I gonna have to remind you of Madonna's sex book  ---> click

'greatest musical artist' goes far beyond music talent bro

nekkid pictures go a long way mang 

jewunit said:

Seemed to me you were attacking what I need listen to without reason. I could care less if people do or do not like what I like, but to tell me I'm listening to the wrong jazz I find offensive.

I am chilled out, you seemingly attacked what I liked, I felt the need to defend myself. That is all.

I still ask for you to point me in the direction where non-vocal jazz sends a "message". Frankly I don't think there is any out there, maybe I'm way off base though.

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*shrug* The intensity and creativity of some of the "classics" (Davis, Coltrane, Ellington, etc) conveys a lot, I think. The cool thing about it though is that it's in such a raw format that it's partly up to the listener to decide what it means. The music will meet you half way. Or another way of looking at it is that good jazz will convey emotions, but not necessarily the context or specifics of it. Many other lesser knowns (such as some of the ones you listed) accomplish this readily as well.

oh and speaking of jazz and in reference to the OP, Nina Simone is primo.

edit to add: Forgot the main point I was going to make: I wasn't attacking you, I was just surprised that someone who seems to be really into jazz would insinuate that it has no message or that without lyrics there is nothing being communicated. Jazz, of all genres, excels at non-verbal, musical dialogue between the artist and the listener.

Ubermensch said:

My roommate just claimed eminem as the holder of this title.

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psilocyberin said:

why not just say Justin Timberlake and everyone disagree?

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No way man he rules.

Muppet said:

cause there'd be at least one fucker in here who would pop outta nowhere and start blastin out with some wicked Timberlake whines just to support that whole 'bitch' side of the spectrum

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Holy shit you were right.

jewunit said:

Just because he sings pop doesn't mean he's bad.

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Error. Does not compute. Does not compute.

fireworks_god said:

The term "generation" is so loaded that I would never use it. Having stated that, I cannot answer your question.

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psilocyberin said:

this is such an apples and oranges question.

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spock said:

prince

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Gijith said:

Based on your criteria, Prince seems like the most obvious answer.

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Corporal Kielbasa said:

What about DAVID BYRNE?

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