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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: Ferris]
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Ferris said:
I haven't heard a single good suggestion...



blasphemy!

am I gonna have to remind you of Madonna's sex book  ---> click

'greatest musical artist' goes far beyond music talent bro

nekkid pictures go a long way mang  :smirk:


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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: jewunit]
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jewunit said:
Seemed to me you were attacking what I need listen to without reason. I could care less if people do or do not like what I like, but to tell me I'm listening to the wrong jazz I find offensive.

I am chilled out, you seemingly attacked what I liked, I felt the need to defend myself. That is all.

I still ask for you to point me in the direction where non-vocal jazz sends a "message". Frankly I don't think there is any out there, maybe I'm way off base though.



*shrug* The intensity and creativity of some of the "classics" (Davis, Coltrane, Ellington, etc) conveys a lot, I think. The cool thing about it though is that it's in such a raw format that it's partly up to the listener to decide what it means. The music will meet you half way. Or another way of looking at it is that good jazz will convey emotions, but not necessarily the context or specifics of it. Many other lesser knowns (such as some of the ones you listed) accomplish this readily as well.

oh and speaking of jazz and in reference to the OP, Nina Simone is primo. :smile:

edit to add: Forgot the main point I was going to make: I wasn't attacking you, I was just surprised that someone who seems to be really into jazz would insinuate that it has no message or that without lyrics there is nothing being communicated. Jazz, of all genres, excels at non-verbal, musical dialogue between the artist and the listener.


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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: Ubermensch]
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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: unbeliever]
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I don't mean that nothing is conveyed. But I'm looking at it as a message in the sense that it has some meaning beyond what emotions it's going to strike and where those emotions will take you and what they make you think. Like, an anti-war message, or racists are bad messages aren't going to be directly sent through the music I don't think. They can certainly be interpreted, but I don't think jazz musicians write pieces or play solos with a certain meaning in mind. Maybe their current emotions will influence where they go with a song, but I don't know if their goal at the end of the day is to tell their audience "war is bad". If that makes sense.

And oh, those four artists are far from "lesser knowns", they might not be big to people outside of jazz, but that's because jazz is so unknown, and people don't seem to gain fame outside of the genre until after their careers have peaked. Although Wynton is kinda famous, he makes millions of dollars and has been featured even on SportsCenter (he's from New Orleans.)


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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: Ferris]
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this is such an apples and oranges question.

David Bowie, James Brown, Frank zappa, Brian Wilson,... to name a few.

Not to be completely pretentious, but I have yet yo see any suggestions/nominations that hold a flame to any of these with respect to the question.

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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: SneezingPenis]
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And I don't think many of the people mentioned match the people I've nominated, but to each his own, the subject of "What makes a good musician" seems to be vastly different from person to person.


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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: jewunit]
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I didnt even compute the part about "our generation"..... whatever time period that means.... so i guess my nominations wouldnt count as far as that goes.

No one person sticks out really..... you could say Kurt Cobain, but then 20 people would post angry posts about how Billy Corgan, Maynard, Shannon Hune, jeff Buckley, Tupac were far superior.... it is a crap question.

why not just say Justin Timberlake and everyone disagree?

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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: Ubermensch]
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Ubermensch said:
My roommate just claimed eminem as the holder of this title.



How funny!


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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: SneezingPenis]
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psilocyberin said:
why not just say Justin Timberlake and everyone disagree?



No way man he rules.

:hehehe:


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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: SneezingPenis]
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cause there'd be at least one fucker in here who would pop outta nowhere and start blastin out with some wicked Timberlake whines just to support that whole 'bitch' side of the spectrum



personally though - I do happen to have a soft spot in my heart for Weird Al now that you mention it  :smile2:


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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: Muppet]
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Justin ain't so bad. At least he can actually sing. I mean there are far better artists around in the world, but he's good compared to other pop acts.

He probably wouldn't be nearly as good without Timbaland on the boards though.


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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: jewunit]
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and I guarantee you Timbaland does better without him  :yesnod:


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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: Muppet]
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I don't know... ever heard a Timbaland and Magoo album?
Not too good.
Honestly the stuff Timbaland makes is always good, you can't deny that, but his stuff with the ever sexy JT is some of his best I think.


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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: Muppet]
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Muppet said:
cause there'd be at least one fucker in here who would pop outta nowhere and start blastin out with some wicked Timberlake whines just to support that whole 'bitch' side of the spectrum



Holy shit you were right. :eek:


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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: fireworks_god]
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No no no, I'm not saying he's fucking great.
I'm just saying that he actually has some talent, so there's no need to blast him. Just because he sings pop doesn't mean he's bad.


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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: fireworks_god]
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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: Ubermensch]
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Bob Schneider, Claudio Sanchez, big fan of Dave Grohl, Hans Zimmer  is an amazing composer:thumbup:. Billy Cobham for you fans of jazz drumming, Matisyahu is pretty cool, Zack de la Rocha.  I could go on forever, can't pick one single person.


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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: jewunit]
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jewunit said:
Just because he sings pop doesn't mean he's bad.



Error. Does not compute. Does not compute. :what:

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Re: Greatest musical artist of our generation? [Re: fireworks_god]
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:lol:

You did say earlier you could discern the difference between what you like and what is good musically.


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