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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: Ego Death]
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I'm completely serious, I don't know their agenda, but I know they are here.
I really hope to someday understand what my dreams about them mean...

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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: Middleman]
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Aliens must be fucking stupid.

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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: paulie_walnuts1]
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middleman i dont think they are here for any good reasons...


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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: paulie_walnuts1]
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That is a response which suggests ignorance. I suspect you feel threatened by the possability that this is real.

The implications of them being able to take you against your will at any point are bound to produce a response of fear and then rejectance.

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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: Middleman]
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You are of the same opinion as me then!

Please, tell of your experiences. I'd like to hear as much detail as possible.

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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: Ego Death]
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When I was a kid I had this recurring dream that once a year the ships would appear in the sky. This was completely normal for people, but it fucknig freaked me out. And this was before I ever knew anything about ufo's.

Anyway, I don't think its all fear based when people don't believe it. Considering the billions of billions of solar systems out there, it would be one hell of an achievement to find our little blue planet.

Of course the counterarguement is that their technology is so incredibly more advanced and perhaps different than ours, but why the fuck would they burn people with exhaust? It makes no sense.

I am god damned sure the government is covering something up, but I'm not quite sure its something ET. Allthough I have seen those zigzag things you're talking about, and people always say its satelites - but I've seen them move straight away from me, changing directions and crossing eachothers paths and shit like that without being high on mushrooms or anything else.

Thing is ... I honestly do not believe these are aliens checking us out. If their technology were so fucking advanced they could even get here, all of the obduction stories sound fairly primitive in comparison.

I am more prone to believe that it is us. Probarly the US, or the russians, or both. Or the fucking illuminati, or the templars, or just some crazy fuck who owns the world without us knowing.

I find that to be more likely than ETs. And why are the obducted ones always rural outback countryfolk?

It makes more LOGICAL SENSE to me, if aliens were here to investigate us, that they would hover big cities and check out our general behaviour pattern. (which is fucking INSANE btw, we're a fucking cancervirus, and most likely they want to kill us off)

Allthough, kidnapping retard trailertrash is a nice coverup if they want to explore our physiology. For all we know, these beings may not even be carbonbased, if they exist.

All of this shit is so speculative, that I won't believe it even if I was obducted myself. Why are all the stories dreamy and odd? And I have yet to find many stories that predate the roswell incident, which to me indicates that this is a fad, like ... the hippiemovement or the yuppies.

I don't know.


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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: slaphappy]
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>Considering the billions of billions of solar systems out there, it would be one hell of an achievement to find our little blue planet

Maybe, but as you have said if you have the technology to travel space maybe you have the technology to scan for life on distant planets. Its also known by us that certain patterns (stars with near planets etc) in the universe suggest planets are capable of sustaining life (as we know it). So we just look for the patterns.

>but why the fuck would they burn people with exhaust

huh?

>all of the obduction stories sound fairly primitive in comparison

I disagree. All the reliable abduction stories I've read about have shown many different examples of advanced technology.
Also, bear in mind that there is evidence of aliens/saucers that dates far back before we even had airships.

>I am more prone to believe that it is us. Probarly the US, or the russians, or both. Or the fucking illuminati, or the templars, or just some crazy fuck who owns the world without us knowing.

Its possible. I think in this age its almost a certainty that we are also piloting some of the *ufo's*.

>always rural outback countryfolk

They are not!http://ufos.about.com/od/aliensalienabduction/p/manhattan.htm


>that they would hover big cities

DUDE! You havn't heard about the st. petersberg mass sighting or the belgium mass sighting or the pheonix mass sighting...

>stories dreamy and odd?

Why are the stories so consistant?

90% of abductess are exposed to some memory erasing technique. Then have to use our own memory erasing/regaining techniques (hypnosis) to get them to recall the memory of the actual abduction.

Most abductions start with the person(s) seeing a UFO and then experiencing missing time. Sometimes theres other details such as they feel dazed and then their car jumps ahead in the road (coupled with missing time). People have even noticed items of jewelry etc are on the wrong way after the experience. They can experience strange marks on their bodies, nightmares. All after the seeing of the UFO and then the missing time experience.

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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: Middleman]
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Let's see the X-ray. Or I call Shenanigans.

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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: Ego Death]
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Ego Death said:
That is a response which suggests ignorance. I suspect you feel threatened by the possability that this is real.

The implications of them being able to take you against your will at any point are bound to produce a response of fear and then rejectance.


No.

Aliens must be stupid. I implore each and every one of them to abduct me on my nightly walks in the boonies. I'm utterly alone for a couple miles each way, and am not fearful. I even expect several probes of several orifices. Nobody will ever know because I don't care if anyone ever knows my secrets. It would be fun to get molested by other-worldly beings.

But no, they insist on getting a hold of every schizophrenic moron with no teeth, no imagination, and access to a computer. I find it funny that all the people who've had a so-called contact with an alien feels a need to profit off their supposed experience. It also instantly wipes out their ability to remain an individual. They find groups of people who also believe that "nobody believes us" and build pseudo cults of weirdos out of it.

I invite an experience, and swear to everything that nobody would every hear about it, and that I'd find a way to become better through the experience. But we all know abductions from other-worldly beings don't happen.

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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: paulie_walnuts1]
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Subject: Re: UFOs, and why they have something to do with hallucinogens?

I live in the country on 100 acres of land. One night my friend and I took mushrooms. I took a half eighth and my buddy took a full one (he is 6'7" and 350 lbs so it's not that big of a dose).

The environment in this case was grassland. Open fields on top of a cliff. We could not see the house until we got approximately 30 yards away because of the slope of the terrain. I never had any visuals while on them, just that good old feeling of being in mushroom land. We smoked some herb to try to set it off, and stood outside on a trail about 200 yards away from my house.

Anyway we were baked and barely feeling the mushies so we decided to head inside. It was dark outside and we could only see because the sky was so clear and the stars were so bright.

As we walked up a slight hill going toward my house, we noticed what seemed like lights coming toward us. We stopped, not knowing what it was. Then slowly two lights peaked over the crest of the hill and kept moving toward us, only about 15 yards away.

Now there is a road in the direction that these lights came from, but it is over 400 yards away. Also, I have ruled out headlights because the two lights were slightly bobbing up and down independently of each other.

Then it appeared as though two extremely tall, skinny figures, (all black because it was nighttime with no moon) were walking toward us carrying flashlights. Now, these beings did not look human, but I reasoned that they could be people walking toward us (although it couldn't have because we were on my private land and no one else was there).

So, thinking that maybe the sheriff had wandered onto my property, we turned around and ran about 10 yards back. As we turned around, in the field to our side, about 50 yard away, was a round light. It was like a large, million candle-power spotlight, but it did not illuminate anything. It was just a round ball of light. It hovered about 3 or 4 feet above the ground and made no noise. It was bright so we couldn't see the source, but I figured it was an ATV driving around in my field. But there was no noise....it moved around quickly and stopped a couple of times, but did not make a sound. We were a little freaked out and decided to take our chances with the things holding the "flashlights" so we turned around again to go back home.

When we got back to the place on the path where we encountered the first lights, there was nothing. So we went back to see if the light in the field was still there, but it was not.

Now keep in mind, I was barely tripping. I had no visuals the entire trip, except for all of the stars seeming very bright. We were high when this happened but still pretty much there mentally.

The next day we finally spoke about what each of us saw in detail, and the interpretations were very similar.


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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: paulie_walnuts1]
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>>>But we all know abductions from other-worldly beings don't happen.

I've provided my evidence - now provide yours.  Ignorant assertions are useless.  They only serve to make you look stupider.

:braindamage:

If you can't provide a rational counter arguement then don't bother...

You belong in OTD.

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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: SoY]
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Strange.

My closet encounters have been whilst completely sober. I (along with other people) saw one craft so close-up that nothing can convince me they are not real now.

Not to say I now think everything I see is a craft - because I don't. Its just once you have an experience like what I and many others have had then there can be no denying the reality of this phenomena.

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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: Ego Death]
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You say you saw a craft but have not said whether or not you saw the pilots of the craft.

Also, what do you think of the idea that endogenous DMT might play a role in abduction experiences? How "real" are the experiences people have on DMT?


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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: Revelation]
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Some of the stories where people are sleeping could be explained if you believe that DMT is the chemical used for dreaming. Basically these people are having an alien experience caused by anomalously large amounts of the drug being excreted form the penal gland while they are suppose to be asleep. Either they wake up while the trip is going on or it is so life like they assume it to be real.

I have had numerous dreams about aliens. Most of the time I will be at a festival or something in the dream and then I will see a UFO. Sometimes I'll scream to them "Take me I'm ready" but most of the time they are not nice and attack. One time in my dream aliens came and attacked my family, they shot something at us and I swear it was IDENTICAL to a 5meoDMT experience, I tripped balls in with hallucinations identical to 5meo. These dreams occurred in a point in my life right after my 5meo experiences. Maybe they are related?


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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: JackthaTripper]
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Another theory is that it is us. Either it is humans flying back in time from the future, or it is our own military. I've heard it said that our classified military technology is 20-30 years ahead of the technology that we know now. Could these be explained as our future military crafts that they are testing now? And the figures are not their true form but are in a suite that can change (like in A Scanner Darkly). Why would they choose the typical, what we think of as, 'Alien' form? Well it would be to mimic what the science fiction writers and movies portray to us what an alien looks like. The reason they would do this would be to distract public attention from the true nature of their testing to keep the information classified and away from the Russians or other adversaries.


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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: Middleman]
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Middleman said:
I'm completely serious, I don't know their agenda, but I know they are here.
I really hope to someday understand what my dreams about them mean...


Some have claimed that calling the name of Jesus Christ successfully stopped abductions before the person was even taken.
They just left.

...fits the profile perfectly

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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: JackthaTripper]
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>>>Either it is humans flying back in time from the future, or it is our own military

Surely the simplest explaination is that it is aliens. I mean they may be beings from a parallel universe but thats some chasm jumping conclusions to come too.

The simple evidence that we exist (aliens in our own right) suggests to me that life is spread thoughout our universe...

>>>that our classified military technology is 20-30 years ahead of the technology

The ufo phenomena is very old, one of the first saucer reports was made by an astronomer from the 1600's.

I don't think the military could of leaped as far ahead as what these crafts are capable of.

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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: Revelation]
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I did not see the occupants of the craft. Nor would I want to!

Also, what do you think of the idea that endogenous DMT might play a role in abduction experiences? How "real" are the experiences people have on DMT?

I don't think DMT plays any role in abduction experiences.

I understand your point though. People can have hallucinations, but can several people have the same hallucination at the same time?

If everyone saw machine elves then I might be inclined to say that DMT played a role but in this case we are seeing a higher species. We may believe we are the peak of evolution but thats because we've yet to build decent space ships. Just like before we built decent boats people believed that the civilisation they lived in was the only civilisation.

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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: snakefinder]
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Don't palm this off as some cult bs.

Cults probably exist for every idea humans can think of but that doesn't in anyway discredit the reality of this stuff.

The crafts have been shown on multiple radar screens and proven to be performing manouvuers that break our laws of physics. I have no doubts that these craft are physically real. (belgium mass sighting)

I also realise that most people have not done anything near the amount of research on this subject as I have and thats why they don't realise how much evidence their actually is...

I'm in the process of documenting the best evidence on a website, when its up and running I'll put a link on here.

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Re: Some of the most unexplainable close encounters! [Re: Ego Death]
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Alot of investigators (Pope, Hynek) started out as disbelievers - its only when they saw the MASS of hard evidence that they realised this is real and thus converted their opinions.

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