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Lets talk aliens
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When is our species going to make contact??!! I'm tired of waiting.

I think that there are billions of alien species out there. In all shapes and forms (and lack thereof). I have the sneaking suspicioun that aliens are everywhere. I have even wondered if I have already made contact with aliens through my mind, like in dreams and stuff. Thought can travel through space so quickly!

I can not comment on whether or not the government knows anything about aliens. But I'm keeping my eye on them. Chances are they know something small about aliens, like having already made contact with an alien species. But I can't comment...

What do you think??

Damn it! We need warp technology! Then we could explore more outer space and visit other galaxies.

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MOTH]
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Tried of waiting? For what? For something to save you/us? Life is so fucking interesting that I think the aliens are already here. They is us. :grin: :heart:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Icelander]
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I'm waiting to make contact! To have confirmation of an alien species! Like, imagine if we picked up a radio transmission from space and it was confirmed to be an alien signal. That would be world-changing. Suddenly, we humans would realize that we're not alone in the universe after all. Many questions would be answered, and just as many would need to be asked.

Maybe I'm overestimating how much people would give a shit...but *I* would certainly care. It gives fodder for my mind, another step in the ladder of knowledge. To "know" through some sort of physical evidence that sentient life developed on a planet other then Earth would be AWESOME for us as a species. I think it would escalate something big in world consciousness. Because how can a human mind not help but expand at proof of alien life? Unless the person squashes it of course, but anyway.

It would be exciting. And of course we're aliens. To other aliens.

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MOTH]
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I was talking with someone in one of my classes, and he had an interesting theory on aliens. He believed that are already here, its just that that exist partially in dimensions we cannot percieve.

He felt that ghosts and strange occurances often were a defense mechanism of aliens already studying us.

I dont know how valid this is, seeing as I'm still learning about other dimensions, but i found it to be a rather interesting theory

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: peepeepottypants]
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peepeepottypants said:
I was talking with someone in one of my classes, and he had an interesting theory on aliens. He believed that are already here, its just that that exist partially in dimensions we cannot percieve.

He felt that ghosts and strange occurances often were a defense mechanism of aliens already studying us.

I dont know how valid this is, seeing as I'm still learning about other dimensions, but i found it to be a rather interesting theory


I think he may be right!

Do you know that we cannot see 90% of the universe?

Scientists call the stuff we can't see "Dark matter."

And they don't know what it is!

I wonder what that dark matter is...matter from invisible alien dimensions, maybe?

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MOTH]
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Well it would be exciting for awhile of course. But after that the dishes and am I happy? And if not, why not would still be waiting.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MOTH]
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EllemyshShade said:
peepeepottypants said:
I was talking with someone in one of my classes, and he had an interesting theory on aliens.  He believed that are already here, its just that that exist partially in dimensions we cannot percieve. 

He felt that ghosts and strange occurances often were a defense mechanism of aliens already studying us.

I dont know how valid this is, seeing as I'm still learning about other dimensions, but i found it to be a rather interesting theory


I think he may be right!

Do you know that we cannot see 90% of the universe? 

Scientists call the stuff we can't see "Dark matter." 

And they don't know what it is! 

I wonder what that dark matter is...matter from invisible alien dimensions, maybe?


I have heard this theory and I kind of like it. :thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Icelander]
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I like it as well, I just do not know how I would percieve the idea of ghosts or spirits then.

Does this mean they dont exist, if not, how do you differentiate

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: peepeepottypants]
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Yea, but it would be great to have real conformation.
To where nobody could say that they don't believe in aliens because its a known fact, and everybody has seen them.

I think thats what he's waiting for.
Thats what Im waiting for.


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that there, thats not me. :noway:
i go where i please. :yesnod:
im not here.:shake:
this isnt happening.:nonono:

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: peepeepottypants]
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Ghosts or spirits could be bleed through. Or they could be evidence that death is an illusion. I'm not smart. Don't ask me too much. :grin:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MOTH]
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Hello :thirdeyeani:


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: barfightlard]
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ever since i gained knowledge of the 'string theory' ive been open to the possibility of other dimensions. but what role aliens play in those dimensions i have no fucking idea.

one thing to keep in mind tho is how far another habitable planet would be from earth, and the time it would take to travel from there, even at the speed of light.. i remember my science teacher talking about this one day but i cant recall the rough estimate he gave.

anyways, heres another interesting thing i just found: Panspermia

gotta love wikipedia :laugh:


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: krishnamurti]
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Yeah I intend to finish Elegent Universe when the semester is over. String theory is neat...but im no science wiz, so learning about it is a process of breaking my brain and mending it over and over again

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MOTH]
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i dont give a shit if aliens exist or not. I mean, i know that life exists throughout the galaxy, and there are probably millions upon millions of species out there... maybe many intelligent ones as well. but they are out there, we are here, and quite frankly, i dont understand the perverse obsession with waiting or looking for them.

we havent even learned to make peace with our own species yet, let alone the thousands of other living species on our planet. I mean, we cant even breach the communication gap between us and intelligent species like orangutangs, dolphins and whales.

how could meeting another intelligent species NOT be a total disaster?

we havent made peace with ourselves, with our neighbours, with other life, or with our planet. we are NOT ready to enter any galactic community, and any species smart enough to be watching us right now knows that and is staying out of sight and gunshot range.

you want the aliens to come? then work on making your own life impeccale and making this planet somewhere worth visiting.

You want contact with metaphysical beings? lucid dream, smoke salvia, do some DMT, meditate, astral project, or have OBE's/

all those things are in our power, but making the aliens hurry up is not.

If you keep waiting on something out there, youll be waiting forever,

cuz its all in you man.

peace


:rocket:

edit: er... i mean, woman.

:grin:

anyways, dont mean to be harsh, but did you know that there are dozens of ways to contact non human non physical entities without waiting helplessly for htem to come to us?

i mentioned some of them above. of course, one could theorize that dream characters, astral entities and psychadelic beings are all just parts of our own mind, but that makes no functional differance because they are parts of our own mind previously never explored or contacted, so they are still totally ALIEN to your own conciousness.



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Everything I post is fiction.

Edited by Moonshoe (11/30/05 04:09 PM)

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Moonshoe]
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I guess I watch too much Star Trek.

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Moonshoe]
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Moonshoe said:
i dont give a shit if aliens exist or not. I mean, i know that life exists throughout the galaxy, and there are probably millions upon millions of species out there... maybe many intelligent ones as well. but they are out there, we are here, and quite frankly, i dont understand the perverse obsession with waiting or looking for them.

we havent even learned to make peace with our own species yet, let alone the thousands of other living species on our planet. I mean, we cant even breach the communication gap between us and intelligent species like orangutangs, dolphins and whales.

how could meeting another intelligent species NOT be a total disaster?

we havent made peace with ourselves, with our neighbours, with other life, or with our planet. we are NOT ready to enter any galactic community, and any species smart enough to be watching us right now knows that and is staying out of sight and gunshot range.

you want the aliens to come? then work on making your own life impeccale and making this planet somewhere worth visiting.

You want contact with metaphysical beings? lucid dream, smoke salvia, do some DMT, meditate, astral project, or have OBE's/

all those things are in our power, but making the aliens hurry up is not.

If you keep waiting on something out there, youll be waiting forever,

cuz its all in you man.

peace


:rocket:

edit: er... i mean, woman.

:grin:

anyways, dont mean to be harsh, but did you know that there are dozens of ways to contact non human non physical entities without waiting helplessly for htem to come to us?

i mentioned some of them above. of course, one could theorize that dream characters, astral entities and psychadelic beings are all just parts of our own mind, but that makes no functional differance because they are parts of our own mind previously never explored or contacted, so they are still totally ALIEN to your own conciousness.



:thumbup:

:heart:


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"my old friend told me
to do well always
set your sails, open
ride your waves, flowing
just relax, sober
leave you past, it's over
bind two hands, stronger
my soul waits, forward" - Arjun and Guardians

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MOTH]
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Strange. Sudden talk of Aliens AND a new sig.

Hmmmmm.

Could someone have been abducted and implanted recently????


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Absense of evidence is not evidence of absense...

"Religion is a defense against a religious experience"
              Carl G. Jung

 
"So really, ordinary reality is a kind of chemical habit, sanctioned by culture, which says it's okay to use certain drugs, eat certain foods, and have certain sexual behaviors. However, when you transcend all this pre-conditioning by returning to the original wisdom of the animal body, then you discover this immense dimension of opportunity. For some people, it is a frightening risk. To me, that's the psychedelic experience."
Terence McKenna

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MOTH]
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EllemyshShade said:
When is our species going to make contact??!! I'm tired of waiting.

I think that there are billions of alien species out there. In all shapes and forms (and lack thereof). I have the sneaking suspicioun that aliens are everywhere. I have even wondered if I have already made contact with aliens through my mind, like in dreams and stuff. Thought can travel through space so quickly!

I can not comment on whether or not the government knows anything about aliens. But I'm keeping my eye on them. Chances are they know something small about aliens, like having already made contact with an alien species. But I can't comment...

What do you think??

Damn it! We need warp technology! Then we could explore more outer space and visit other galaxies.


smoke dmt

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Vvellum]
    #5000986 -

"All you do is inhale deeply three times... You want contact? You want elves? You want alien intelligence?... You'll have them coming out the kazoooo." - Terence Mckenna


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"my old friend told me
to do well always
set your sails, open
ride your waves, flowing
just relax, sober
leave you past, it's over
bind two hands, stronger
my soul waits, forward" - Arjun and Guardians

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: CeeThruMeer]
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im kind of a self proclaimed alien/space x-pert.....im not crazy and have been abducted before or had a close encounter or whatever but i have watched a bunch of sweet ass documentaries about it. trustworthy, hopefully.

its not likely that aliens have contacted earth or ever will. the highest speed obtainable is the speed of light, any higher and, well imagine. that's bad cause the nearest alain solar system is around four and a half light years away (zoom in). so that would mean that it even if we could reach light speed, witch is most likely impossible, it would still take four years to get there. and when we get there there will be no habitable planet, most likely. with that travel time it would take aliens a while to travel, or even find the correct direction to go.

dark matter can not be seen by humans, the only way they know it exists is by its gravitational effect on visible objects. so the explanation might be just a abnormality in gravitation, a ball of gravity, which puts a small wobble on nearby planets or stars.

the only really cool thing is the most commonly known thing, black holes. they are old stars that have grown so dense that they just continuously collapse on themselves making the gravity of the black hole have a really strong effect on nearby stars. in fact this is the only way we can see them, so in theory that means there could be a black hole out in empty space because it has eaten up everything in its gravitational field, the only way we can see that is if it passes in front of a far away cluster of stars which most likely wouldn't be for long.

Also the earth is in a very special location in its orbit, a few hundred thousand miles inward or outward would make earth almost uninhabitable. too close and the solar radiation would be so strong from the sun that our atmosphere wouldn't be able to block it nether will our gravity field. so the earth would bake. too far and it gets to cold to keep water in liquid form, and without liquid water nothing would have been able to grow and evolve. so the earth would freeze.


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Edited by Idiot (12/01/05 01:08 AM)

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MOTH]
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i think the evidence is around us already.just look at yourself and our technology.

it takes millions of years for a species to evolve into what we are today,yet we humans are so young to have evolved,our minds are so weak and undeveloped,and our history doesnt have a long time line.
i think we were created in the image of an advance being (god),and that the human race is very ignorant.i also think that some species are here observing us, maybe they have a base on the dark side of the moon,or perhaps they have bases underground.occurding to some ancient text,they were here side by side with humans and then they dissapeared one day.i would think they would return but who knows.the pyramids are obviously a product of an advance race,,,,...

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Cosm]
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yeah, I've heard of a secret society of mole people that live four inches under Seattle!!


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Idiot]
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Idiot said:
yeah, I've heard of a secret society of mole people that live four inches under Seattle!!


i wouldnt think there would be mole people but perhaps reptile people living under seatle.

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Cosm]
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Just the bones of murdered indians under Seattle.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MOTH]
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I pretty much feel and or see it the way moonshoe does regarding them making a global introduction. Humans are to primitive to join a galactic community. We are yet afraid of each other-with reason to be because we are still so violent. That doesn't mean they haven't been making their presence known to millions of people from a safe distance. :grin:

As far as I know, millions have been making telepathic communication .

Blah blah anyway, I have some fun stories that serve as confirmation for me.

The first one puts me in St. Thomas U.S.V.I. '95. I was always intrigued with the idea of those who prefer to be called "celestials or star beings"- not aliens BTW. One day sout shopping, I saw the book ET101 and bought it. I was home alone one night reading in it and this section talked about a MASH unit of sorts, on call, waiting to help "heal". The book said to just ask for it so I did.

A Second later, the phone rang. I picked it up. There were the strangest bleep wizzles zeeee bloops sounds I ever heard, let alone coming through a telephone line. It stopped, I said hello again, it started again and stopped, I asked who it was and it started again and stopped. Then it hit me that I just asked for medic spiritual healing help from ETs and became scared shitless at the thought it was them on the other line.........oh fuck was I shaking.

I ran with it. When the sounds stopped again, I said," I don't understand these sounds. Can you speak English?" More wizzle zing bleeps. This went on for 20 minutes as i was wanting to figure out what was going on until I got so skitched I hung up. I then called a friend to meet me at the bar. I needed a stiff drink. :lol:

4 things validate it for me.
1) The timing of the call coming in just a second after I asked for help like the book said to do.

2)Even though the other end of the convo was sounds, they were timed like a two way conversation would be. They wouldn't come while I was talking. They would only start again after I stopped. If I interrupted the sounds, they would stop until I was done talking and start up again. That to me ruled out some random phone line glitch.

3) The sounds like I said were like nothing I have ever heard here before.

4) Years later, I came to learn that Celestials helping with our spiritual awakening are adepts at and prefer to use frequency sounds. 

Pretty freaking cool it was from hindsight. I was so scared back then, I gave the book the book away.

The next came about 7 months later. I was living in Hawaii at that time and people on the island kept talking about these pleiadian beings they were doing planetary and bodily healing work with via telepathy and multi dimensional consciousness states. Some claimed to be walk ins as well. Far out shit for me to grasp at the time.

My boss gave me Bringers of the Dawn to read, A pleiadian channeling. It was more like an order to read it and I was a Bar Tender. She served as quite the spiritual awakening mentor for me during my time in Kauai. WOW. I was sucking that book up. They spoke my language, even though, I kept the idea of this book being a channeling of ETs under a lot of skepticism. Either way, I was digging what I was reading so it didn't matter much.

My bro was in visiting and wanted me to take him to a Healing Arts Fair on the island he caught wind of. We went and he had a channeling done by "Peggy of the the Pleaides, dolphin channel"-too funny this isalnd was to me-they wer everywhere. I had a sense of humor about it all at the time. He was really into it.

I looked over the board of services and saw someone was doing channeled drawings of spirit guides. I bought a ticket for that one thinking I would at least get a cool drawing for my dough out of it, and was curious what mine looked like if I had any guide/s.

So the lady starts drawing these far out geometric abstracts in varied colors. I was like, "Um, excuse me, I thought I paid for a drawing of my spirit guide? What's that stuff?" She asked me to roll with it and said that is what she was being shown to draw for me and that I was to meditate on the drawing and that it would be very healing for me. I thought, "Whatever :rolleyes::lol: these kauaians are so kooky yet interesting and I was curious.

I copied it onto a large canvas and hung it up in my living room. I was still reading Bringers of the Dawn, a section about sacred geometry and started looking at the drawing. Read more, looked at the drawing, on and on and thought, "HOLY SHIT BAT MAN" The pleiadians channeled that drawing through her, I just KNOW IT! I got all scared and shaky again and thought to call her and ask her if she knew she was channeling them.

It was 3 weeks since the fair and I called the number on the back of the drawing. I said, "Don't know if you remember me, but I was at the fair and you did an abstract drawing for me." She said, "OHHH YOU, I can't forget. I work with healing stones and crystals and never advertise channeled drawings at fairs. My guides asked me to add it to the list the night before. You were the only one during the 3 day fair that asked for one."

Then I said very hesitantly feeling really stupid, "The reason I am calling is because I think it's from the pleiadians, do you know who they are?" She laughed and said, "I am Pleiadian Human. We have been working on installing the crystal grid for the planet for the past few years together now.

:jawdrop: It WAS FROM THEM! :jawdrop: The book kept saying things like, if your reading this, you are are distant family. The book said it was filled with wake up activation codes. I couldn't conceive of it, would NOT begin to equate myself with them and was scared shitless yet again after that drawing experience.

I felt like I had no choice but to face, they found me and made personal contact with me through her. Well, I kept them at a comfortable distance and started feeling their presence strongly (about 4 of them) who started acting as spirit guides through telepathy and alot of intuitive promptings. It was an AMAZING time in my life when they dropped in to play. I had so much fun with them.

Years later, it got to be too much and I kissed them goodbye and unplugged. A couple years after that, I was ready for round two and plugged in again. I was getting into frequency healing and wanted to open up a light and sound frequency healing center.

I was waiting in the car one after noon and had this fun idea of making the center look like a Mayan Temple and calling it The Pleiadian Healing Temple. Was just playing around with the idea in my head while channel surfing the radio and caught a new song by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. I'm listening to this cool new tune and HOLY SHIT again, I couldn't believe what I just heard come out of Anthony Keides mouth on the radio.

"Comin from space to teach you of the Pleiades"
:jawdrop: hahahahaha :rofl2: VERY CLASSIC of how they played hide and seek with me the last time I was plugged into their tune. Stuff like that was their way of saying, "We're here with you"

Just as I'm thinking of opening a Pleiadian healing center, I hear that on the radio. :lol:

They have us surrounded! :lol:

My husband had gotten me the By The Way CD a few weeks before that. I got home and played it for the first time and read through all the lyrics. That song is called, Can't Stop -the spirits when they need you. (Indeed)

Weeks before, I had gotten some aetheric DNA activation sound scape CDs. They were channeled by the galactics working with earth, pleaidans included. I'm playing the Peppers CD and HOLY shit AGAIN!. The EXACT sounds that were in my DNA activation CDS were also in the RHCP CD. Woah. I found out later that the guitarist John Francionne had his own wake up experience with the pleiadians and channeled new harmonics into the RHCP sound. He said they helped him get off drugs and to heal and got him back in the band. He had dropped out and was addicted to Heroin really bad.

The CD won international music awards galore. AWESOME to know how people are being effected and touched by the celestials in non invasive ways like through music.

Needless to say, I certainly believe their presence is very real here and very Present-indeed. :thumup: :sun:

The idea nor their making their presense known in such ways doesn't scare me anymore now either. I'm use to it, trust their intentions and  enjoy it now.

:peace:  :heart:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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aliens came at the beginning of civilization... helped us out with some pyramids.. gave us the idea of religion.. but then it got overboard with religion and we fucked it up.. they then left our planet never to visit this horible place again :thumbup:


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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aliens came at the beginning of civilization... helped us out with some pyramids.. gave us the idea of religion.. but then it got overboard with religion and we fucked it up.. they then left our planet never to visit this horible planet again


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: danlennon3]
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my bad


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: danlennon3]
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You can edit out your own repeat posts. Just go into edit at the top of it and delete it. :wink:

:peace: :heart:


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MOTH]
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If I were an alien, I wouldn't bother communicating to humans.

If they've got the intelligence to get here, then we are going to look pretty stupid. We are killing our planet and each other!

Other than scientific study and maybe resources we would have little to offer an advanced species.

I expect they just study us. Or keep an eye on us for when we start sending our killing devices into space...


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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jiggy, sounds like some crazy encounters you had! i love that kind of shit. I can really relate to those bizarre, inexplicable messages from outside. that very same red hot chili peppers song has given me those unique "chills"

ive never really perceived them as coming from "aliens" as such... i always interpreted it as messages from the big mind, the universal dreamer, aka GOD, but i guess it all adds up to the same thing, the pledians and such being, presumably, just higher levels of conciousness on the same spectrum as humans and god.

:crazy:

i hope to meet some pledians on my journeys.


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Ego Death]
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danoEoboy said:
If I were an alien, I wouldn't bother communicating to humans.

If they've got the intelligence to get here, then we are going to look pretty stupid. We are killing our planet and each other!

Other than scientific study and maybe resources we would have little to offer an advanced species.

I expect they just study us. Or keep an eye on us for when we start sending our killing devices into space...


exactly they study us.and the ones that created us could be waiting for us to discover them.i think they are waiting for us to find them first then they will lead us into the galactic community.

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Cosm]
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Cosm said:
danoEoboy said:
If I were an alien, I wouldn't bother communicating to humans.

If they've got the intelligence to get here, then we are going to look pretty stupid. We are killing our planet and each other!

Other than scientific study and maybe resources we would have little to offer an advanced species.

I expect they just study us. Or keep an eye on us for when we start sending our killing devices into space...


exactly they study us.and the ones that created us could be waiting for us to discover them.i think they are waiting for us to find them first then they will lead us into the galactic community.


That's pretty much how it is on Star Trek.

The Prime Directive: No interference with the natural development of any primitive society is allowed. (including contact)

It makes sense, but the futuristic part of me grumbles about it.

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MOTH]
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its too bad christian missionaries never learned about the prime directive.


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MOTH]
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We've had contact since the beginning.

Contact just doesn't occur on the conscious level.

I think the appropriate question is.. when are earth humans (us).. going to awaken to and accept other levels of reality and consciousness as completely valid. There is more than one state of being.

The rule of non-intereference, the very FIRST and most important rule, which all space-travelling entities must adhere to at all times, and is enforced by the Galactic Federation.. was put into place to prevent 'higher evolved' beings from manipulating and dominating planets of lesser evolved (or younger as a civilization) beings. The rule basically means that there is to be no interference with the 'conscious, waking' reality of "undeveloped" civilizations. An undeveloped civilization by their standards is one which has not yet reached the level of uninhibited space travel or has left their own solar system under their own power. This level of civilization usually marks a shifting point in the level of consciousness of that civilization.. namely the 4th and 5th dimensions.

When civilizations reach this point, and all do sooner or later.. whether physically through space travel or spiritually as a planet.. they are approached by representatives of the "Council of Worlds".. basically a UN of the galaxy.. and given the choice to join them, or go out on our own and maybe have to face some of the more malevolent forces on our own... only then will we have contact on a global, "conscious" level.

Aliens don't have a conscious, "ego" reality level of consciousness. No one does in the 4th and 5th dimensions. Not humans, not insects, not blobs of plasma. All contact occurs on the subconscious levels of the soul.

So contact does occur, just on the subconscious level.

The question isn't when are they making contact with us.. it's when are we going to answer them and enter into their reality. We have to meet halfway. They are already there.


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
When civilizations reach this point, and all do sooner or later.. whether physically through space travel or spiritually as a planet.. they are approached by representatives of the "Council of Worlds".. basically a UN of the galaxy.. and given the choice to join them, or go out on our own and maybe have to face some of the more malevolent forces on our own... only then will we have contact on a global, "conscious" level.


Are they as pathetically ineffective as our own UN here on earth?


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Silversoul]
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Hell no! I just used the UN because it's an easy analogy. But not the best one I'll admit...

Just imagine a really organized and effective interstellar UN, that actually cared.. a lot.


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Shroomism]
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So do all these different alien species make up God?

I figure they do...but that's just because I tend to see every cotten pickn thing as God.

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MOTH]
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Everything is god :grin:


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Shroomism]
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any one else believe that bush has started what will become ww3
democracy vs suisidal maniacs
and then thers small pocks, bird flu nice pandemic i read about this years ago its been right so far another war a pandemic and avisit from god (i dont believe thers a god) but a life somwher in the univers thats billions of years beyond us that will be visiting us
(their little lab rats)
tell us how much we failed as a sociaty which if bush smoked a joint before he went to war maybe sudam would have come out his hole
the britsh lied to him and now this is in motion
i think i was reading about a celtic rock that cannot be dated or is older tahn our planet with an X for the major wars all through time even a few they cant figue out it was b4 writing circles for pandemics not so many as wars
and some other symbol for jesus's coming and one after the next war (alrady in motion )( one big move by any one and it will start
good thing iraq didnt have any good weapons or we would probly be dead by now or atleast radioactive
me that feeling a conection to the earth and exploring it (shamanism) isnt religon
i thin kwhy believ it if it cant be proven hence my evolutonist views
if christ is reborn now hed probly be strapped to a table in a mental institution in about an hour after saying his name

evolution as a socielty such as us it the progession to ward goddly ness i think we are going backwrds more that forwards
ex genetic modification
cloning
eventually time, space, dimensions,
so in thery one advaced enought to copletly contol everything is GOD
ha im god of my greenhouse or is it my computer
tthers another idea "the matrix" we make a more adaptable "anamal"
that out evolves us and destoys us for creating it
like ssome of that modified diseadse for biowarfare

any creationists around? I was wondering who created god?
nno t somuch wondering as tring to bring some thought back to this thread


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Millennium]
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I think that we had contact at the beginning.  A "lost" civilization that was alien in nature, but they left and have been watching us from a distance since history began.  I also think that with the first explosion of the atomic bomb that that was kinda of a wake up call to the galaxy, if not the universe, that this lowly "human" planet was starting to come around in terms of its level of sophistication. 

Why is it that the atomic cloud looks like a mushroom?  If the mushroom theorists are correct in that we evolved from apes by the use of hallucinogenic mushrooms, then the atomic bomb is a sign that we're on the right track in terms of knowledge gained.  But its our wisdom that is lacking.  And what is the cause of the lack of wisdom?  Simple.  The baby-boomers.  Only when they and their egos are off this planet will we be able move onto higher levels of consciousness.


McKennaDMT :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2:


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Millennium]
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millenium, that sounds like a bunch of drunken ramble, I can't even sit to read through it. how about using some punctuation between separate ideas at least?


anyways, my thought is that there is an intelligent force but like Shroomism states it lies in another dimension or set of dimensions. i have little interest in finding aliens in this dimension because frankly life here is too short. i mean, it would be cool and definitely a consciousness banger, but i won't wait around for them. too many problems, like others have said, that deserve more critical attention and effort here on earth.


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: kake]
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Well i have seen some shit in the skies while sober! I'm not saying i tihnk there are aliens out there i know there are. Us humans dont want to believe that there are other species out there. There is so much space and we cant explore it all because of modern technology. We say there arent aliens because we havent found any proof of water and living life on other planets even though aliens may not need water or any of the elements on earth to survive. Me and my bro have seen while sober a star in the sky get bigger and smaller several times ( about 8 or 9 times ) and then it disapeared... It was gone and it never came back. We also saw a star in the sky that was flashing red, green, and blue in an organized pattern. You could actually see the colors it wasnt like when you see a star and you see the very light flashing lights around it and the next night we got high and it wasnt there.

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MOTH]
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Consider this scenario:

You have two planets. On one planet a tribal race of humans and on the other a somewhat advanced (radio transmitting) civilization. How would the tribal race detect the advanced race with their technology? Even if they somehow figured out how to receive analog radio waves, how would they know what they were hearing/looking at was evidence indicative of an advanced race? How would they disect the pattern of information?

It would be extremely hard.

Very similiar to our situation. If we picked up a signal how would we know it was an alien transmission? Most likely their compression algorithms and data transmissions are extremely advanced to the point of non-recognition.

Well for very intelligence species, anyway. Maybe if the civilization was roughly in our period of technology we could detect them but thats such a brief time span because technology progression is not linear but rather exponential. Once it takes off, it flies; and that can be easily seen with computing technology.

I'm considering the fact that we might be all alone in the Universe. Blessed with the gift of supreme intellect, we will create, calculate, and spread life through the Universe. The masses think we are not alone, and the masses have a history for being wrong. What if we were all alone, the only beings able to reverse engineer the structure of the cosmos?


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: ShrewmSter]
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Thats wrong.

We HAVE found water on other planets AND we have found life (basic bacteria) on space rocks.

But I agree, that, the predujice about life elsewhere, remains at large.


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minute said:
Thats wrong.

We HAVE found water on other planets AND we have found life (basic bacteria) on space rocks.

But I agree, that, the prejudice about life elsewhere, remains at large.


True but it was a minute amount. I'm talking like alto of water and actual beings not bacteria but you are right.

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: ShrewmSter]
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Any of you guys (shroomism and gettinjiggy) heard of these guys?

"A Brief Description of The Urantia Book...

The Urantia Book, first published by the Urantia Foundation in 1955, was authored by celestial beings as a special revelation to our planet, Urantia.

The book's message is that all human beings are one family, the sons and daughters of one God, the Universal Father. It instructs on the genesis, history, and destiny of mankind and on our relationship with God. It also presents a unique and compelling portrayal of the life and teachings of Jesus, opening new vistas of time and eternity, and revealing new concepts of Man's ever-ascending adventure of finding the Universal Father in our friendly and carefully administered universe.

The Urantia Book's view of science, philosophy, and religion is perhaps the clearest and most concise integration of these subjects available to contemporary man. There is little question among the over 400,000 people who have purchased, read, and who study the Book: The Urantia Book has the capacity to make a significant contribution to the religious and philosophical thinking of all peoples; it truly has the potential to shape world destiny.

Over and over, people from around the world have discovered that the Book has profoundly impressed and changed their lives - inspired and stimulated them to reach new levels of spiritual growth and enhanced living.

While almost every generation produces a number of people who pose as the bearers of a 'new revelation,' it is surprising that The Urantia Book does not advocate a new organized religion. Its viewpoint builds upon the religious heritages of the past and present, encouraging a personal, living religion based on faith and service to one's fellows."

Urantia dot org website

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MystikMushroom]
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They're here, they have been here on & off for a very long time, the us government is fully aware of it all & has interaction with them. There is a reason that now a days you can ask any child in america to tell you what an alien looks like & they draw you a picture of the classic "grey"


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: A3eyedfish]
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Brainwashed culture?


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: psyka]
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think of the cool drugss the aliens have. They have the best shit. Alien milkshakes, margeritas, steaks, lobster. The aleins have some good shit. Shit you wouldn';t even believe. Shit I can't describe cause I haven't see it yet. Alien bars, Alien women. Damn I love de ALiens. Are YOU alienzzzzz?

hey mom.

there is probably aliens reading this hsit right now, luaghing at us talking bout them.


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
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nakors_junk_bag said:
think of the cool drugss the aliens have. They have the best shit. Alien milkshakes, margeritas, steaks, lobster. The aleins have some good shit. Shit you wouldn';t even believe. Shit I can't describe cause I haven't see it yet. Alien bars, Alien women. Damn I love de ALiens. Are YOU alienzzzzz?

hey mom.

there is probably aliens reading this hsit right now, luaghing at us talking bout them.


Are you mocking us?

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: ShrewmSter]
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aw, not at all. why would you think that. its not my style to mock people. I really believe in aliens and I don't think its all that far fetched to believe they are allready here. They say truth is stranger than fiction.

i am dead serious, man think of all the million and billions of different alein cultures out there. Think of all the shit out there that needs to be tried. One day when we have interstellar shipping lanes, its going to be cool all the shit we will have. fucking wal mart will be selling mad alien shit.


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MOTH]
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its called DMT ladies n gents.

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Moxemerald]
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i am interested in dreams as a way to contact alien intelligences ... for example, i once had a very powerfull dream where i went to "salvia land"

which was this phenomenally cool liquid green jungle landscape that smelt moist and alive and was populated by these droopy green people, salvia shamans, who brewed this fantastic mulchy drink. although they spoke no english, i was able to communicate with sign language.

First they made a gesture of disgust at the drink, indicating that it tasted foul. then they made a gesture with there hands, indicating opening eyes, which to me meant that the drink was psychadelic.

so i drank the drink, which wasnt as bad as i expected, like cold oatmeal... i didnt trip but was then able to speak to the beings verbally.

we talked for a while about life and drugs and salvia and plants and the jungle.. all the details are lost...

anyways things like that make me wonder...

that is all.


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Moxemerald]
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Moxemerald said:
its called DMT ladies n gents.



I feel drawn to DMT lately.  I want to see what it's about.  Rootbark here I come.  :crazy2:

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MOTH]
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Same here, ive been feeling the "pull" of DMT latley. I have no idea where or how to get some...but, I have been feeling drawn to it latley...

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: MOTH]
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You guys need a lot of rootbark
thats where the aliens originated from...
My mother ate root and thats why im here today
Seriously im being truthfull
Dont dispute my word


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Our Gair, who art in Texas,
Paw Paw be thy Name....
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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Ego Death]
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danoEoboy said:
Thats wrong.

We HAVE found water on other planets AND we have found life (basic bacteria) on space rocks.

But I agree, that, the predujice about life elsewhere, remains at large.


This is a matter of some debate among scientists. None of my professors believe that the structures found on the Mars Asteroids from Antarctica are anything except oddly shaped weathering, as opposed to being indicative of other worldly life.


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Icelander]
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They might already be living among us, just like men in black.


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: ShroomOmatic]
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Or like alien spirits in human bodies.


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Re: Lets talk aliens [Re: Shroomism]
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Quote:
I feel drawn to DMT lately. I want to see what it's about.



me three. im believe im a little past the whole recreational use thing, have been for a while. dmt seems to be the only logical step forward in my adventure inside my head.


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