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    #626599 - 05/11/02 09:35 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: mushroom genetics [Re: phrozendata]
    #626617 - 05/11/02 09:59 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I thought there was something about the cell tissue that prevented you from being able to cross breed cubs. Do you think you caused a hybrid or one of the strains just won the battle? Do you have any pics? I guess my fire ants will try it maybe a mexi-cub and a amazonian so the mexi provides the numbers and the amazonian could provide the size. I really dont think this would work because I to remember reading an in-depth discussion of why you could not cross two different strains. But what the hell it just one jar and my fire ant wont care.


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    #626622 - 05/11/02 10:10 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: mushroom genetics [Re: phrozendata]
    #627053 - 05/11/02 07:47 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

The major reason people use spores in this context is the legality of them; as in, spores are legal, cultures are generally not.
think of the variability of humans.. same deal, only with a litlte more inbreeding ;P
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"cloning" with humans is just a wee bit more complicated and fraught with moral issues.


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Re: mushroom genetics [Re: phrozendata]
    #627847 - 05/12/02 02:45 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

There are strains within strains. Using the spores from each successive generation, on the same substrate in the same environment will result in more uniformity over the generations. If you recieve spores of B+ that were grown primarily on rye grain, they will have a special fondness for this substrate. They will grow on other substrates, they just might have a slightly different appearance, or result in different colonization or pinning times.

The only thing preventing hybrids from being formed via spore mixing is proximity. Spores nearest each other that are compatible will mate. Spores tend to clump. So adding spores from one strain into a solution with spores of another strain probably isn't gonna work so well. Anastomosis may occur between Dikaryons of one strain with another, but it will be of very low frequency. These infrequent fusions, will be hybrids.

If you are able to isolate individual monokaryons(germinated spores) from each of two distinct strains, and tested a bunch of them for mating, you would result in a higher frequency of hybrid formation, then the former scenario. According to the EXPERTS, these hybrids tend NOT to be more vigorous then their parents. You never know though, you might just get LUCKY.


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