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Flat substrate cakes?
    #604890 - 04/11/02 12:03 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

I'm curious as to whether it is possible to use a large ziplock oven bag instead of glass jars to form a substrate cake for the mycelenium.
Say (for instance) you filled a ziplock oven bag (the kind they use for roasting turkeys) with enough substrate material to fill about 4-6 jars, threw it in the oven to sterilize it for a couple hours, let it cool, then inject it with a sterile syringe and put tape on the holes in the bag.
You could then just toss the thing in a box for a couple weeks until it fruited, and then just have one big gigantic cake with lots of surface area.
Seems like it would be a lot simpler and more sterile than birthing and maintaining many cakes at once.
What do you think?
Seems like it would work great for casing as the colonized cake would fit nicely in a terrarium.

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Re: Flat substrate cakes? [Re: Captain_Undeez]
    #605135 - 04/11/02 07:59 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

guess you'll have to try and post your results...

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Re: Flat substrate cakes? [Re: esin]
    #605146 - 04/11/02 08:16 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Why certainly!
I had just figured that one of you geniuses may have tried it yourselves at some point, or possibly proven that it is infeasible.

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Re: Flat substrate cakes? [Re: Captain_Undeez]
    #605151 - 04/11/02 08:23 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Although i'm not a genius, i don't see any reason why it shouldn't work as long as those bags are capable of maintaining sterile conditions inside.

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Re: Flat substrate cakes? [Re: esin]
    #605172 - 04/11/02 08:48 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

if you can pressure cook the bag wrapped up in a wet towl or something of that nature, this works. I've not tried using the over to sterilze it in the past though have read of others having problems with the substrate drying out.


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Re: Flat substrate cakes? [Re: Captain_Undeez]
    #605236 - 04/11/02 10:02 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

That's HIP's bulk TEK and he had alot of problems with contams i hear
the TEK is in the grow/find section

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Re: Flat substrate cakes? [Re: Captain_Undeez]
    #605301 - 04/11/02 10:50 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

i think someone on here does that... not fruiting it as a cake though, but i have seen someone use bags to colonize substrate but proably not zip-lock :-) i think it was Una using them to spawn grain to dung or something....look for it.

(EDIT) Well a generous feeling came over me, www.mushmush.nl go to the page where he is making Pan. Cyan. substrate, this is not exactly what you are looking for, but close


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Re: Flat substrate cakes? [Re: ParticleMan]
    #605313 - 04/11/02 11:05 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

my freind, you havent cooked wioth one of those bitches before! oven bags are the epitome of shitty comercial ade shit that leak all over fuck. no way could they stay sterile. there are myco bags out there and they are expensive but work. however you only get one cake out of them then you gotta by new ones. save you money, and go read another post on this forum about putting half pint cakes into qt jars to fruit. you can get abut a dozen cakes where your terrium could only hold 6 or 7 so if you want to maximize there it is. a dozen Qt jars are the same as a dozen half pinta arounf here. and the qts dont need to be sterilized before you put a cake in them. hope this helps.


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Re: Flat substrate cakes? [Re: Captain_Undeez]
    #606301 - 04/12/02 10:58 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

What Peyotl said is correct. I tried the reynolds oven bags and they suck big time. They get all sorts of little leaks, moisture disappears and contaminants get in.

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