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Evolution and the human..
    #5957431 - 08/12/06 07:43 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

How come humans are so far beyond the equilibrium of the Earth as far as the evolutionary cycle goes?

Isn't it a peculiar evolution, too?  I mean, humans don't even need to know how to survive on the Earth anymore.  It's unecessary.  It is rare when someone has to do this, but think about if you were "stranded" (what a funny way to put it!) in a forested area for a week, would you survive? 

Not unless we are in our colonies can we really live these days.  Sure, someone can go out and make a life of their own in some desolate area, but if they want their actions to ever truly exist (in our written history or in the memories of others), he/she MUST make contact with the others, probably by using a language developed by the colony!  If a single product of an evolution were on trial, it really doesn't make the cut unless it betters the colony.

Then again, "colony" seems like a very subjective term, but we can still draw the line at at least different cultures!  When did the Chinese become the Chinese?  Not in the political sense, but in culture, and in evolution?

Anyway, back to the main question - how did humans ever become so far beyond the Earth's evolutionary equilibrium?  What role do we play on this "living spaceship"?

And what really is the nature of evolution?  I mean, if evolution is only the product of a need to survive or a method of surviving more effectively, then why do plants develop psychoactive substances?  I am not sure if THC does anything important in the cannabis plant, but even so why does it have THIS quality of effecting mammals in THIS way (I am high at the moment)?  THC seems especially aimed at humans because it takes minimal amounts of intellect to garner results from (by smoking it or extracting it - not something you see dolphins doing :smile:).

So what is doing the aiming, if not simple survival?  Is nature finding it's own way to entertain itself?  Are psychoactive plants natures "key" to evolving intellect?  You can learn more from a psychedelic than dozens of lectures and scientific facts.

It's almost like nature and life have been given the challenge of survival, and they've won that challenge, but have since moved on to a new purpose. 

The humans were nature's success story!  6.5 billion and counting, but it has only been in recent years that we've really been taking off.  In 1950, the world population was 2.5 billion. 

We were a success- but incredibly quickly, especially when compared to nature's past little experiments, we became a sort of disease.


Edited by avapxia (08/12/06 07:49 PM)


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Re: Evolution and the human.. [Re: avapxia]
    #5957562 - 08/12/06 08:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Somehow, existence is perfectly ordered (entropy is so...ordered).  It will always find a way to reveal itself and its true nature to itself (reveals itself to itself).  Drugs are related with this.  Nothing looks into itself and sees nothing, and there is joy.  There are biological reasons to explain this, surely.  I am just not aware of why it happened.  Perhaps genetic drift played a role, perhaps THC is a by-product of some other important metabolic processes necessary to occupy the specific niche of marijuana.  Either way, it is meant to be here, and for some it can be used in a way that unravels the true nature of existence.

Evolution is funny - as we evolve together we become completely reliant upon our environment because it's there and it has been evolving with us this entire time.  Because of this we humans are reliant upon society for the most part.  Could you imagine if parents left children alone in the woods or by a pond to mature and survive on their own?  Life relies upon life.

Exponential population explosion of humans, eek!  That can't continue forever.  Who knows what will happen, or around what numbers we will stabilize (if at all).  Perhaps extinction?

Thankfully, you are not a body, so it really won't matter :smile:


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Re: Evolution and the human.. [Re: avapxia]
    #5963650 - 08/14/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Humans are not the only organism on the planet that thrives because of their society.

There are other organisms that use this form of evolutionary advancement (ants and wasps come to mind first, I'm sure there are others)

So, I'm not sure what you were trying to imply with this statement.....
How come humans are so far beyond the equilibrium of the Earth as far as the evolutionary cycle goes?

The planets "equilibrium" and our "equilibrium" are in perfect harmony.


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Re: Evolution and the human.. [Re: avapxia]
    #5963873 - 08/14/06 07:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

there is only one thing that has been evolving since the big bang and is the focus of creation: consciousness


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Re: Evolution and the human.. [Re: avapxia]
    #5964984 - 08/15/06 12:53 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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avapxia said:
So what is doing the aiming, if not simple survival?  Is nature finding it's own way to entertain itself?  Are psychoactive plants natures "key" to evolving intellect?  You can learn more from a psychedelic than dozens of lectures and scientific facts.

It's almost like nature and life have been given the challenge of survival, and they've won that challenge, but have since moved on to a new purpose.




Very interesting perspective.

To me it almost seems like plants develop their psychoactive chemicals to externalize their spirit. When picked up by a host, the plant spirit comes directly into contact with the host spirit. Perhaps a form of symbiosis? Intelligence exchange? Communication?

Are plants hungry for information?

:mushroom2:


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