TODAY said:

Yup, because they can see you being an asshole or they can read your demeanor.  This means they can make logical decisions as to how they correspond with you.  If we are talking about random chance that has nothing to do with a rational observer making a conscious decision about how to treat you. 

Believers in karma believe that chance is not really chance, it is some sort of due that manifests itself as a self-guided effect of a sum of causes (no matter how distant in past or witnessed by others) or something like that...that is their error.

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choas is the order
the absence of order is an order upon itself
all it takes is a casual glance in any of the major earth sciences: ecology, biology, geology, .ect to see that clearly,while at the whim of cosmic chaos, we are are being govrned by fundamental predictable laws.
karma is not a individualistic phenomina. its karma is suposed to be a way of describing the intangible connection between all things.
also your hitler thing kinda was weak
karma does not act upon those who act wrong emidiatly. hitlers karma is not only felt by him for diesng. its felt all over the world. that one mans thoughts manifested into a world war. and has effected our planet on a long term scale. karma is not for you, or me or hitler. karma is us
sorry
ill stop the hippy rant now
it just pisses me off seeing my freind acting a foo and wallowing in a black hole of self pitty

pantsboy said:

I just have many friends that believe "what goes around comes around."  Even most religions seem to base many of their preachings off of karma.  Catholicisom itself teaches that all sins will punished for in the afterlife if you you don't redeem yourself.  Personally I think this is fucking bullshit.  I mean seriously...who is going to punish for sins I comitted when I was alive while I'm buried 6 feet under the cold dirty ground.

It's not like I'm saying people should be allowed to do whatever they want with out punishment, but the way people administer punishment for wrongness and sin is just a scare tatic and just another way for the pope to buy and new and fancier hat.

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oh god man you got alot to learn
spirituality is not about punishment.
and karma is not about you being punished either.
you are warped man. you look at the world and say why me. why do i feel this way. why am i not happy.
one thing you are right on tho is, yes you will one day die. and you will lay in the ground. and everything that was you will be torn apart and used to gro new things. so do you want your very very very short time here to be spent a spiraling in a pit of alchy shit fuck
or do you wanna take your fucking life and use it for somthign you truly love
get a grip man. dont fucking waste your time worrieng about all this shit. vus thats just it. your gonna die. your pretty much almost dead. 10 years 50 years a blink of an eye. why does it matter? it dont
so fucking use it while you have it.
please


all that you gather is just more for you t lose my freind

eligal said:

notapillow said:

karma has been so misunderstood by western culture.

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And by all other cultures...

I beleve there is a balance. Its called the laws of physics. Other than that, its all non-sense people like to believe to be true.

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ShroomFan said:

we'd be better off if no guns existed IMO

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