|
QuantumMeltdown
Space Monkey



Registered: 10/31/01
Posts: 4,962
Loc: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Last seen: 5 months, 10 days
|
Tool- Can someone please explain
#5885586 - 07/21/06 07:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Ive been listening alot to the new album and of course it kicks ass. I was reading some of the lyrics and listening alot and it seems like theres alot of references to jesus(christ) or christ consciousness. I never really remember tool being like that especially with undertow and opiate but then they became more spritual/psychedelic with salvia and now their latest album. For me psychedelics and christ come hand in hand if you ever have really mind blowing experience you have to be a believer(IMO). So the question is, are they being sarcastic or are they really spiritual or are they just playing what they think their fans want to hear(If thats the case good fucking job). Can anyone give me any insight into this or share your thoughts?
-------------------- -QuantumMeltdown Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself. -Mark Twain "The time has come the walrus said, little oysters hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome Be lonesome and you will be free Live a lie and you will live to regret it That's what livin' is to me That's what livin' is to me" Jimmy Buffett
Edited by QuantumMeltdown (07/21/06 08:10 PM)
|
array
diehard confederate


Registered: 06/20/04
Posts: 2,539
Loc: ya moms trailer park
Last seen: 9 years, 5 months
|
|
theres no such thing as god and jesus.
that is all.
--------------------
|
QuantumMeltdown
Space Monkey



Registered: 10/31/01
Posts: 4,962
Loc: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Last seen: 5 months, 10 days
|
Re: Tool- Can someone please explain [Re: array]
#5885624 - 07/21/06 08:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I disagree. That is all.
-------------------- -QuantumMeltdown Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself. -Mark Twain "The time has come the walrus said, little oysters hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome Be lonesome and you will be free Live a lie and you will live to regret it That's what livin' is to me That's what livin' is to me" Jimmy Buffett
|
maggotz

Registered: 06/24/06
Posts: 7,539
|
|
TOOL have never really acknowledged the fact that they use drugs. some people find obvious drug references in their songs, other find spiritual references, it really depends on who you are and what you believe. just take what you want from it.
|
QuantumMeltdown
Space Monkey



Registered: 10/31/01
Posts: 4,962
Loc: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Last seen: 5 months, 10 days
|
Re: Tool- Can someone please explain [Re: maggotz]
#5885628 - 07/21/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Never acknowledged using drugs what about this lyric?
Rosetta Stoned by Tool Alrighty then... Picture this if you will...
10 to 2 AM And actually eating up an old box of Krispy Kremes And my "need-to-know potion" Just outside Area 51 Contemplating the whole chosen people thing When a flaming stealth banana split the sky like, wide open. I never expected to see it in a place like this. I do believe I spilled a diamond sundae Or something wet on my Birkenstocks And [you're yelping] Holy fucking shit
Then the x-file beings who were like some kind of blue-grey [Jackie Chan] With Isabella Rossellini lips and breath that reeked [They're wicked-shot terrorists all while making the sound] abananadabanana so when I opened up my bug eyes, my gaping jaw and my sweaty lower and upper lip And all I could think was I hope that my partner here doesn't notice that I pissed my fucking pants
So alive in this way Like an apparition You have me crying out Fuck me It's got to be Dead head Chemistry The blotter got On top of me Got me seeing E mother-fucking T
And after calming me down with some orange slices And some fetal spooning The ET revealed to me his singular purpose He said you are the chosen one The one who'll deliver the message A message of hope for those who chose to hear it And a warning for those who do not Me, the chosen one, they chose me And I didn't graduate from fucking high school
You had better... You had better... You had better... You had better listen
When he looked right through me With somniferous almond eyes Don't even know what that means Must remember to write it down This is SO REAL Like the time they floated away See, my heart is pounding Cause this shit never happens to me
I can't breathe right now
It was so real Like I woke up in Wonderland All sort of terrifying I don't want to be all alone When I tell the story And can anyone tell me why It was a repeat experience will I ever be coming down This is so real Finally it's my lucky day See my heart is racing Cause this shit never happens to me
I can't breathe right now
You believe me don't you Please believe what I just said See they're telling the truth And this wasn't all in my head See they took me by the hand And invited me right in Then they showed me something I don't even know where to begin
Strapped down to my bed Feet cold, eyes red I'm out my head Am I alive? am I dead? Can't remember what they said God damn shit the bed
hey hey
Overwhelmed as one would be placed in my position Such a heavy burden now to be the one Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending To write it down for all the world to see But I forgot my pen shit the bed again Typical
Strapped down to my bed Feet cold and eyes red I'm out of my head Am I alive am I dead Sunkist and Sudafed Gyroscopes and infrared won't help the brain dead Can't remember what they said
God damn shit the bed
I Can't remember what they said to me Can't remember what they said to make me out to be A HERO I can't remember what they said Can't remember what they said
Don't know, Wont Know (repeated 12 times)
God damn shit the bed
-------------------- -QuantumMeltdown Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself. -Mark Twain "The time has come the walrus said, little oysters hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome Be lonesome and you will be free Live a lie and you will live to regret it That's what livin' is to me That's what livin' is to me" Jimmy Buffett
|
array
diehard confederate


Registered: 06/20/04
Posts: 2,539
Loc: ya moms trailer park
Last seen: 9 years, 5 months
|
Re: Tool- Can someone please explain *DELETED* [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
#5885638 - 07/21/06 08:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Post deleted by gdmanReason for deletion: how can a thread be gay? threads have no sex
--------------------
|
QuantumMeltdown
Space Monkey



Registered: 10/31/01
Posts: 4,962
Loc: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Last seen: 5 months, 10 days
|
Re: Tool- Can someone please explain [Re: maggotz]
#5885639 - 07/21/06 08:16 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
maggotz said: TOOL have never really acknowledged the fact that they use drugs. some people find obvious drug references in their songs, other find spiritual references, it really depends on who you are and what you believe. just take what you want from it.
But I completely agree with you about how most awesome musicians (Beatles, Dead, Floyd ect) always leave their songs open for interpretation thats what makes it so good because it makes it personal. But I guess what Im really asking here is what are your guys interpretation of it then? Of course we couldn't know for sure what they mean or what its all about unless we asked the band themselves and ever then probably still wouldn't get an honest answer.
-------------------- -QuantumMeltdown Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself. -Mark Twain "The time has come the walrus said, little oysters hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome Be lonesome and you will be free Live a lie and you will live to regret it That's what livin' is to me That's what livin' is to me" Jimmy Buffett
|
QuantumMeltdown
Space Monkey



Registered: 10/31/01
Posts: 4,962
Loc: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Last seen: 5 months, 10 days
|
Re: Tool- Can someone please explain [Re: array]
#5885647 - 07/21/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
array said: this thread is gay.
that is all.
Then stop posting in it.
-------------------- -QuantumMeltdown Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself. -Mark Twain "The time has come the walrus said, little oysters hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome Be lonesome and you will be free Live a lie and you will live to regret it That's what livin' is to me That's what livin' is to me" Jimmy Buffett
|
king_cobra
Stranger


Registered: 02/27/05
Posts: 2,752
|
|
--------------------
|
Boglyn
Put them on theglass


Registered: 10/15/01
Posts: 513
Last seen: 16 years, 4 months
|
Re: Tool- Can someone please explain [Re: king_cobra]
#5885811 - 07/21/06 09:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
The Jesus Christ material in the latest Tool is more for his mother than anything else.
She was a Chrisitian and she just lost her battle with cancer. Part of this album is actually a tribute to her battle and her being able to get into heaven apon her death.
Do a serach for tool and in the Pub and you will find another thread here with 3 of the songs from the album sqished together that one of the pubbers put together.
Viginti Tres (23 the number of unity) / Wings for Marie (Maynards Mother) and 10,000 days (the number of days she fought cancer) all are 11:13 long. Play them at the same time from 3 different sources for one cool harmonizing effect.
-------------------- The sun, with all those planets revolving around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do. ---Galileo
|
QuantumMeltdown
Space Monkey



Registered: 10/31/01
Posts: 4,962
Loc: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Last seen: 5 months, 10 days
|
Re: Tool- Can someone please explain [Re: Boglyn]
#5885844 - 07/21/06 09:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Damn am I out of the fuckin loop that makes things much more clear now. Thanks alot dude. +5
-------------------- -QuantumMeltdown Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself. -Mark Twain "The time has come the walrus said, little oysters hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome Be lonesome and you will be free Live a lie and you will live to regret it That's what livin' is to me That's what livin' is to me" Jimmy Buffett
|
dr_gonz
Registered: 08/18/03
Posts: 44,654
|
|
.
|
Boglyn
Put them on theglass


Registered: 10/15/01
Posts: 513
Last seen: 16 years, 4 months
|
Re: Tool- Can someone please explain [Re: dr_gonz]
#5885892 - 07/21/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
dr_gonz said:
Quote:
Boglyn said: Viginti Tres (23 the number of unity) / Wings for Marie (Maynards Mother) and 10,000 days (the number of days she fought cancer) all are 11:13 long. Play them at the same time from 3 different sources for one cool harmonizing effect.
i might have to try this... where did u hear about it?
I heard about it on another board but the funny thing is someone here put together the mp3. I actually have it although it is better to do it from 3 different sources.
Some say the 3 different sources are a reference to the Tinity but the number 3 has been sacred for along time.
I will try and find it and post it. Hold on.
-------------------- The sun, with all those planets revolving around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do. ---Galileo
|
Boglyn
Put them on theglass


Registered: 10/15/01
Posts: 513
Last seen: 16 years, 4 months
|
|
Ok here it is. Right click save as.
Tool Smashed
-------------------- The sun, with all those planets revolving around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do. ---Galileo
Edited by Boglyn (07/21/06 09:54 PM)
|
dr_gonz
Registered: 08/18/03
Posts: 44,654
|
|
.
|
Boglyn
Put them on theglass


Registered: 10/15/01
Posts: 513
Last seen: 16 years, 4 months
|
Re: Tool- Can someone please explain [Re: dr_gonz]
#5885916 - 07/21/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Sorry. Fixed it for everyone.
"Kids, dont post stoned"
-------------------- The sun, with all those planets revolving around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do. ---Galileo
|
UnderNose
all out of bubble gum


Registered: 03/04/06
Posts: 1,612
|
Re: Tool- Can someone please explain [Re: dr_gonz]
#5885918 - 07/21/06 09:57 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Put the songs together yourself its easy thats what they want you do do. Think for your self Question authority
P.S. Thanks Boglyn fot the tool info That track sounds insane..
-------------------- LAGM 2.022  
Edited by UnderNose (07/21/06 09:59 PM)
|
razorbladeshoes
Friend

Registered: 05/17/06
Posts: 87
Loc: Californ-eye-aye
Last seen: 17 years, 3 months
|
Re: Tool- Can someone please explain [Re: Boglyn]
#5885944 - 07/21/06 10:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Boglyn said: Viginti Tres (23 the number of unity) / Wings for Marie (Maynards Mother) and 10,000 days (the number of days she fought cancer) all are 11:13 long. Play them at the same time from 3 different sources for one cool harmonizing effect.
I dunno about that man. The number usually considered unity is 1. 10,000 days is like more than 27 years. And I'm really skeptical that she died after exactly 10,000 days. It sounds like the "Dark Side of the Moon"/"Wizard of Oz" coincidence.
|
Boglyn
Put them on theglass


Registered: 10/15/01
Posts: 513
Last seen: 16 years, 4 months
|
|
Quote:
razorbladeshoes said:
Quote:
Boglyn said: Viginti Tres (23 the number of unity) / Wings for Marie (Maynards Mother) and 10,000 days (the number of days she fought cancer) all are 11:13 long. Play them at the same time from 3 different sources for one cool harmonizing effect.
I dunno about that man. The number usually considered unity is 1. 10,000 days is like more than 27 years. And I'm really skeptical that she died after exactly 10,000 days. It sounds like the "Dark Side of the Moon"/"Wizard of Oz" coincidence.
She fought cancer for 5 or 10 years that I know of that so you are probably correct about the 10,000. 10,000 days may also be a reference to the 10,000 day war (vietnam) but all of this stuff is debatable.
He does mention his mother several times in the songs though and if you look on the foldout of the CD-Cover those are the only 3 songs listed.
1 is unity in alot of faiths but its 23 in perfect math is unity. Numbers and stuff
That is one of the reasons it is so interesting is because there is some actual depth to the music tool makes. Its like a maze that can be explored instead of just something you listen to with pretty notes (not that that is bad either.
-------------------- The sun, with all those planets revolving around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do. ---Galileo
|
Skunk420


Registered: 06/13/04
Posts: 18,524
Loc: inside
|
Re: Tool- Can someone please explain [Re: array]
#5885962 - 07/21/06 10:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
anyone that is so closed minded has not tripped so hard that he thinks he is dying. But if you trip hard enough you know God.
|
|