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What's good in liquor?
    #5761006 - 06/17/06 04:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm trying to come up with a whole new recipe for an ethnobotanical liquor, like absinthe but not absinthe.

Maybe a wormwood-free absinthe recipe?

Something that goes well with LSD would be nice.


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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #5761303 - 06/17/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

-cannabis
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-orange oil and cherries for flavor

That'd be great for quelling stomach discomfort and also to make the blood rush to your dick.


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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #5761310 - 06/17/06 05:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I say pick your favorite ethno and try it...

HERBAL LIQUORS (yao jiou)
Steeping medicinal herbs in strong distilled spirits for three months to a year yields a potent herbal liquor that fully extracts the essences and energies of the ingredients and passes them swiftly into the bloodstream for rapid results. This is an ancient and effective method for drawing out the full potency of herbal formulas, particularly tonics, and it remains a popular way of using tonics throughout the Far East today. It's also a very economical way of using the more expensive tonic herbs, such as very old ginseng and tender young deer horn.

Proportions vary according to the properties of the herb used as well as personal taste. Generally about 60–120 grams of herbs are used per liter of distilled spirits. For long-term use, it's more efficient to prepare larger batches, such as the six-plus-three-bottle formulas given in this book, which yield nine bottles. Any distilled liquors can be used, but we recommend vodka, rum, or brandy as the best choices.

Buy the bulk herbs chopped or broken into pieces, but not powdered, and place them all inside a large, clean vessel of glass or ceramic. Pour six 1-liter bottles of vodka or other spirits over the herbs and make an airtight seal, then set the jug aside to steep for at least 3 months, shaking it well once in a while. The longer you age this herbal liquor, the stronger it gets and the better. it tastes.

After 3 or more months, open the vessel and pour half the brew through a cloth filter and funnel the filtered brew into clean liquor bottles. Add three more bottles of fresh spirits to the herbs in the vessel, reseal it, and steep it for another 3–6 months, after which you can strain the entire batch and discard the spent herbs. Total yield is about nine bottles, which should be stored in individual liquor bottles with tight corks or caps. Add a bit of raw sugar or honey, or rock crystallized sugar, to each bottle to enhance the flavor and facilitate rapid absorption and metabolism. The bottles can be stored indefinitely, unrefrigerated, without losing their potency, as long as they are properly sealed.

Single-herb liquors can also be prepared by the bottle simply by putting 75–100 grams of the herb (such as ginseng, angelica, wolfberry, or deer horn) into a bottle of vodka, rum, or brandy, then sealing it and letting it steep for 3–6 months. Some people like to keep half a dozen different varieties of herbal liquor "on tap" at home at all times.

A standard dose of herbal liquor ranges from 1–2 fluid ounces, depending on your individual constitution, the season, and the particular purpose for which you are using it. Use a bit more in winter and cold climates, and less during summer and in tropical climates. Take a larger amount for more immediate and dramatic effects, less for gradual tonification during long-term use.

For maximum benefits and rapid assimilation, it's best to take herbal liquors on an empty stomach, twice a day. Our favorite times are about 1 hour before dinner, when it sharpens the appetite, and an hour before going to bed at night, when it warms the body and promotes sound sleep. On very cold winter mornings, taking a dose as soon as you get out of bed may "warm up your motor." If you find the taste too strong, simply add an equal measure of plain warm water. If you are sensitive to alcohol, pour some boiling water onto a dose and let it steep for a few minutes; this will evaporate most of the alcohol without losing any of the herbal essence.


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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #5762742 - 06/18/06 12:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm going to have to use what I have.

Sage, Anise, (3)Mint, Lavender, Bee/Lemon Balm, Chamomile, Rosemary, Basil.

From those ingredients what combinations would make a good herbal soak.
I was thinking a brew of sage, lavender, mints balms and anise would be good.
Then another with chamomile and rosemary. Perhaps a basil cooking oil


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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Anonymous]
    #5763326 - 06/18/06 05:33 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I think I'm going with something calamus and licorice based. I have the ability to distill.


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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #5781871 - 06/22/06 08:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I found a huge patch of wild hemp (Cannabis sativa). From information I found on Google and from the effects I got smoking, the leaves are 0.5-1.0% cannabinoids. This is a good of a time as any for me to make green dragon.


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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #5783510 - 06/23/06 11:18 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

mmm calamus is one of my favorites... let me know how it works out


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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5783516 - 06/23/06 11:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Thought a little bit more about this. No one has mentioned blue lotus... I highly reccommend some blue lotus liqour. Also tagetes lucida would be great as well... if only I could stomach alcohol this sounds so intriguing.


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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5783517 - 06/23/06 11:23 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Wormwood!

Make some absinthe. Wormwood is the only active ingredient, the others are for flavor and color. You can often find wormwood at health food stores in the bulk herbs section.


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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: tallgreen]
    #5783565 - 06/23/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe add some morning glories :smile:


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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: passitbobbie]
    #5784200 - 06/23/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I've extracted kava kava with vodka before. It had a tendency to knock people out rather quickly.

I called it Anti-Tequilla.

I soaked some white lotus in isopropyl alcohol once, planning to dry it and smoke the extract. I still have the jar. It's been soaking for two years now.


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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: tallgreen]
    #5784211 - 06/23/06 03:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think wormwood is the only active ingredient in absinthe.

When I get my next paycheck I'm ordering herbs for absinthe and making several different recipes. One of them will be wormwood free absinthe, which is non-absinthe, or "Nonsinthe".


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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #5784221 - 06/23/06 03:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

What effects did you get?


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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #5784847 - 06/23/06 08:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Wormwood is the only ingredient that causes psychedelic effects aside from the alcohol. The chemical is called Thujone. I have heard it is chemically similar to THC. The other ingredients are just for flavor, check it out:
http://www.absinthebuyersguide.com/herbs.html

I have not made absinthe cause I don't like to drink alcohol. But I have smoked wormwood. It's a kinda like weed but different, and very mild.


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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: tallgreen]
    #5784901 - 06/23/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Wormwood is not the only ingredient that has effects, here is alink to a discussion on these boards on the issue.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5555366/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1

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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: tallgreen]
    #5784941 - 06/23/06 08:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the link, lots of good data.  But does it say what does cause the secondary effects of absinthe (maybe I missed it)?  Is it saying that there aren't any?  I'm pretty sure I felt a noticable buzz from smoking wormwood.  And I am familiar with all the other ingredients in absinthe and none of them are likely to have any effects.  I have some wormwood in the other room, I think I'll try it again..  brb. :wink:


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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: supra]
    #5784952 - 06/23/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

im pretty sure anise can have an effect, and i know they use the seed int he production, maybe even plant material? Ive learned mainly from what ive read here, i also made my own out of everclear and an herb kit from an old sponser here, even distilled it, it was okay, but the effect from it was not too noticeable in my case, maybe clearer thought, maybe just plecebo.

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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: tallgreen]
    #5785045 - 06/23/06 09:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Why distill it? Isn't the point of distillation to remove water, everclear is mostly alcohol.

I just smoked five medium hits of wormwood. I would smoke more but I don't have any papers so I used an emptied cigarette. My bowl has resin so that's no good. Right now I feel a little different. Like I just got done working out. My head is a bit spacey (yet clear) and my heart is beating harder and more rapidly. It feels like the strength of a buzz from smoking a cigarette. Something is different, but I might feel just as different if I smoke a bunch of leaves from the yard. Point is, it's not a major effect. I was thinking anise also, that maybe it would do something. I don't know..

Well, maybe absinthe is a waste of alcohol Baby_Hitler. Have you considered kratom? Or what about Salvia? I have taken massive doses of kava kava but it never seemed to have a strong effect, I'm thinking it needs to be mixed with alcohol like how he natives do it. What about valerian? I use it for anxiety sometimes and it works pretty well.


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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: tallgreen]
    #5785074 - 06/23/06 09:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

oh wait, Valerian infusion would be like drinking hpoo liquor. Never mind, that stuff smells outrageously bad.


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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: tallgreen]
    #5787562 - 06/24/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

distillation also remove all the sediment and shit that is in the bottle, and lightens the color drasticly, from the dark murky brown-green to a nice clear light greenish-yellow....i also mixed with some water before i distilled, as that is how i read it was done..

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