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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: supra]
    #5789287 - 06/25/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

say you did use wormwood and then distilled, would the thugone stay in the alcohol vapor and recollect in your finished product?? I wonder if this would work for calamus, ginsing or THC..

The only thing i can think of to add would be coca.


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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Legoulash]
    #5790353 - 06/25/06 07:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

commercial absinthe is distilled and still has thujone in it, so i would say yes on that one, but i dont know about the others.

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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: supra]
    #5790413 - 06/25/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I was thinking that mabey they distill it then add a few herbs to "flavor" it again. That would also allow the actives to be in the solution.

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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Legoulash]
    #5791697 - 06/26/06 06:10 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

According to this (google cache) the BP of Asarone is 296C.

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:BCx...s&ct=clnk&cd=20

Asarone Isolation from Calamus Roots

The following is a snippet from Uncle Fester's "Practical" LSD Manufacture"
But this has nothing to do with LSD production. Enjoy

Calumus oil, if its country of
origin is India, consists of about 80% of the allyl isomer of asarone.

Asarone can be purified by distillation under a vacuum to yield fairly
pure allyl-asarone. Its boiling point is 296øC at normal pressure and
about 170øC with aspirator vacuum. More details on this Indian
calamus oil can be found in Chem. Abstracts column 6585 (1935),
also Current Science, Volume 3, page 552 (1935).

My search for calamus oil of Indian origin came up empty. In fact,
the health-food store in my town, which is well-stocked with various
oils for use in aromatherapy, had never heard of the stuff, nor was it
listed for sale in their catalogs. This left one alternative: dig up the
roots of North American calamus, and steam-distill the oil out of
them.

While searching for calamus in my area's swamps, bogs and
ponds, the damaging effects of the spread of purple loosestrife was
obvious. This imported plant from Europe has taken over much of the
former habitat of the calamus plant. Here in America, the loosestrife is
free from the insect that keeps it under control in Europe by feeding
on its seeds. The state paper-pushers have been thinking for years
about importing the bug, without ever getting off their butts and doing
it. I suggest this project to somebody out there in the reading public so
that it can finally get done while there is still some native flora left.

After a lot of searching, I finally found a large patch of the
American calamus. (See Figure 4.)

The time for harvesting the roots of the calamus is in the fall after
the killing frost. The frost brings the oil down out of the leaves and
into the root for winter storage. The roots are about a foot long, an
inch or so in diameter, and run horizontally in the soil at a depth of a
few inches. They are best dug out using a fork, taking care not to
pierce the root, as this will cause loss of oil during drying. The
dug-up roots should be rinsed free of dirt, and the tops cut off there
in the field. (See Figure 5.) The roots should then be taken home and
allowed to dry at room temperature for a week or two. Take care that
they do not get moldy!

Once dried, oil can be distilled from them. This is done by first
grinding up the roots in a blender or with a Salad Shooter, and piling
the ground-up roots into a large pressure cooker.A good-sized pressure
cooker will take a load of 10-15 pounds of root. Next, add a few
gallons of water, a couple handfuls of salt, and mix.

The oil can now be distilled. Attach a five-foot length of copper
tubing to the steam exit on the lid of the pressure cooker. Its diameter
should match that of the steam exit so that steam is not lost here, and
should be tightened into place with a pipe clamp. The tubing should
then be led downward into a pail of ice water, and back up into a
dark-glass 40 or 64 ounce beer bottle. The ice water cools the steam,
turning it into water which collects in the bottles.

Heat is applied to the pressure cooker, bringing it to a boil. Heat as
fast as is possible without bringing over foam or having uncondensed
steam escape. When a couple of gallons have been distilled out, stop
the heating and add a couple more gallons of water to the pressure
cooker. Continue this process until 4-5 gallons of water have been
collected.

This process is a steam distillation, and is the way most plant oils
are obtained. The steam distillate in the beer bottles contains calamus
oil floating on top of the water and clinging to the glass. Calamus oil
produced from American plants is reddish brown, and has a strange,
pleasant and sweet odor. For more detailed information on calamus oil
see The Chemergic Digest August 30, 1943, pages 138-40, and Soap,
Perfumery and Cosmetics August 1939, pages 685-88.

The oil is obtained by first saturating the steam distillate with salt,
then extracting the oil with toluene (obtained off the shelf in the
hardware store's paint section). About a gallon of toluene is plenty to
effect the extraction. Then the toluene is removed by vacuum
evaporation in a large filtering flask to yield the calamus oil as a
residue in the filtering flask after the toluene has been evaporated. The
yield is about 200 ml from 15 pounds of roots.

Calamus oil obtained from sources other than India differs from
the Indian oil in two important respects. The amount of asarone in the
oil is much lower than the 80% found in the Indian oil, and the
position of the double bond is propenyl rather than allyl:

The asarone is obtained in pure form from the oil by fractional
distillation under a vacuum. Asarone boils at about 170øC under good
aspirator vacuum of 15-20 torr. The asarone fraction should be
collected over a 20-degree range centered on 170øC. I found the yield
of asarone from American plants to be about 15% of the oil, giving 30
ml from 15 pounds of root.

Asarone is a light-sensitive material, and as such, should be stored in
the fridge or freezer. Upon standing in the fridge, it will
crystallize, allowing further purification by filtering. The m.p. of
the pure substance is 67øC. Asarone is listed as a cancer-suspect
chemical, along with half the other substances in the world. In reality
it is not particularly harmful. See Chem. Abstracts 1931, page 169. It
also doesn't have any pronounced drug effect at reasonable


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