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What's good in liquor?
#5761006 - 06/17/06 04:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm trying to come up with a whole new recipe for an ethnobotanical liquor, like absinthe but not absinthe.
Maybe a wormwood-free absinthe recipe?
Something that goes well with LSD would be nice.
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#5761303 - 06/17/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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-cannabis -epimedium sagittum -ginger -orange oil and cherries for flavor
That'd be great for quelling stomach discomfort and also to make the blood rush to your dick.
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#5761310 - 06/17/06 05:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I say pick your favorite ethno and try it...
HERBAL LIQUORS (yao jiou) Steeping medicinal herbs in strong distilled spirits for three months to a year yields a potent herbal liquor that fully extracts the essences and energies of the ingredients and passes them swiftly into the bloodstream for rapid results. This is an ancient and effective method for drawing out the full potency of herbal formulas, particularly tonics, and it remains a popular way of using tonics throughout the Far East today. It's also a very economical way of using the more expensive tonic herbs, such as very old ginseng and tender young deer horn.
Proportions vary according to the properties of the herb used as well as personal taste. Generally about 60–120 grams of herbs are used per liter of distilled spirits. For long-term use, it's more efficient to prepare larger batches, such as the six-plus-three-bottle formulas given in this book, which yield nine bottles. Any distilled liquors can be used, but we recommend vodka, rum, or brandy as the best choices.
Buy the bulk herbs chopped or broken into pieces, but not powdered, and place them all inside a large, clean vessel of glass or ceramic. Pour six 1-liter bottles of vodka or other spirits over the herbs and make an airtight seal, then set the jug aside to steep for at least 3 months, shaking it well once in a while. The longer you age this herbal liquor, the stronger it gets and the better. it tastes.
After 3 or more months, open the vessel and pour half the brew through a cloth filter and funnel the filtered brew into clean liquor bottles. Add three more bottles of fresh spirits to the herbs in the vessel, reseal it, and steep it for another 3–6 months, after which you can strain the entire batch and discard the spent herbs. Total yield is about nine bottles, which should be stored in individual liquor bottles with tight corks or caps. Add a bit of raw sugar or honey, or rock crystallized sugar, to each bottle to enhance the flavor and facilitate rapid absorption and metabolism. The bottles can be stored indefinitely, unrefrigerated, without losing their potency, as long as they are properly sealed.
Single-herb liquors can also be prepared by the bottle simply by putting 75–100 grams of the herb (such as ginseng, angelica, wolfberry, or deer horn) into a bottle of vodka, rum, or brandy, then sealing it and letting it steep for 3–6 months. Some people like to keep half a dozen different varieties of herbal liquor "on tap" at home at all times.
A standard dose of herbal liquor ranges from 1–2 fluid ounces, depending on your individual constitution, the season, and the particular purpose for which you are using it. Use a bit more in winter and cold climates, and less during summer and in tropical climates. Take a larger amount for more immediate and dramatic effects, less for gradual tonification during long-term use.
For maximum benefits and rapid assimilation, it's best to take herbal liquors on an empty stomach, twice a day. Our favorite times are about 1 hour before dinner, when it sharpens the appetite, and an hour before going to bed at night, when it warms the body and promotes sound sleep. On very cold winter mornings, taking a dose as soon as you get out of bed may "warm up your motor." If you find the taste too strong, simply add an equal measure of plain warm water. If you are sensitive to alcohol, pour some boiling water onto a dose and let it steep for a few minutes; this will evaporate most of the alcohol without losing any of the herbal essence.
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#5762742 - 06/18/06 12:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm going to have to use what I have.
Sage, Anise, (3)Mint, Lavender, Bee/Lemon Balm, Chamomile, Rosemary, Basil.
From those ingredients what combinations would make a good herbal soak. I was thinking a brew of sage, lavender, mints balms and anise would be good. Then another with chamomile and rosemary. Perhaps a basil cooking oil
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Anonymous]
#5763326 - 06/18/06 05:33 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think I'm going with something calamus and licorice based. I have the ability to distill.
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#5781871 - 06/22/06 08:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I found a huge patch of wild hemp (Cannabis sativa). From information I found on Google and from the effects I got smoking, the leaves are 0.5-1.0% cannabinoids. This is a good of a time as any for me to make green dragon.
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#5783510 - 06/23/06 11:18 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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mmm calamus is one of my favorites... let me know how it works out
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Thought a little bit more about this. No one has mentioned blue lotus... I highly reccommend some blue lotus liqour. Also tagetes lucida would be great as well... if only I could stomach alcohol this sounds so intriguing.
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Wormwood!
Make some absinthe. Wormwood is the only active ingredient, the others are for flavor and color. You can often find wormwood at health food stores in the bulk herbs section.
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: tallgreen]
#5783565 - 06/23/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe add some morning glories
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I've extracted kava kava with vodka before. It had a tendency to knock people out rather quickly.
I called it Anti-Tequilla.
I soaked some white lotus in isopropyl alcohol once, planning to dry it and smoke the extract. I still have the jar. It's been soaking for two years now.
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: tallgreen]
#5784211 - 06/23/06 03:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't think wormwood is the only active ingredient in absinthe.
When I get my next paycheck I'm ordering herbs for absinthe and making several different recipes. One of them will be wormwood free absinthe, which is non-absinthe, or "Nonsinthe".
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Aopocetx]
#5784221 - 06/23/06 03:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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What effects did you get?
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#5784847 - 06/23/06 08:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wormwood is the only ingredient that causes psychedelic effects aside from the alcohol. The chemical is called Thujone. I have heard it is chemically similar to THC. The other ingredients are just for flavor, check it out: http://www.absinthebuyersguide.com/herbs.html
I have not made absinthe cause I don't like to drink alcohol. But I have smoked wormwood. It's a kinda like weed but different, and very mild.
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: tallgreen]
#5784901 - 06/23/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wormwood is not the only ingredient that has effects, here is alink to a discussion on these boards on the issue.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5555366/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: tallgreen]
#5784941 - 06/23/06 08:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the link, lots of good data. But does it say what does cause the secondary effects of absinthe (maybe I missed it)? Is it saying that there aren't any? I'm pretty sure I felt a noticable buzz from smoking wormwood. And I am familiar with all the other ingredients in absinthe and none of them are likely to have any effects. I have some wormwood in the other room, I think I'll try it again.. brb.
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: supra]
#5784952 - 06/23/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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im pretty sure anise can have an effect, and i know they use the seed int he production, maybe even plant material? Ive learned mainly from what ive read here, i also made my own out of everclear and an herb kit from an old sponser here, even distilled it, it was okay, but the effect from it was not too noticeable in my case, maybe clearer thought, maybe just plecebo.
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: tallgreen]
#5785045 - 06/23/06 09:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why distill it? Isn't the point of distillation to remove water, everclear is mostly alcohol.
I just smoked five medium hits of wormwood. I would smoke more but I don't have any papers so I used an emptied cigarette. My bowl has resin so that's no good. Right now I feel a little different. Like I just got done working out. My head is a bit spacey (yet clear) and my heart is beating harder and more rapidly. It feels like the strength of a buzz from smoking a cigarette. Something is different, but I might feel just as different if I smoke a bunch of leaves from the yard. Point is, it's not a major effect. I was thinking anise also, that maybe it would do something. I don't know..
Well, maybe absinthe is a waste of alcohol Baby_Hitler. Have you considered kratom? Or what about Salvia? I have taken massive doses of kava kava but it never seemed to have a strong effect, I'm thinking it needs to be mixed with alcohol like how he natives do it. What about valerian? I use it for anxiety sometimes and it works pretty well.
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: tallgreen]
#5785074 - 06/23/06 09:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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oh wait, Valerian infusion would be like drinking hpoo liquor. Never mind, that stuff smells outrageously bad.
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: tallgreen]
#5787562 - 06/24/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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distillation also remove all the sediment and shit that is in the bottle, and lightens the color drasticly, from the dark murky brown-green to a nice clear light greenish-yellow....i also mixed with some water before i distilled, as that is how i read it was done..
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: supra]
#5789287 - 06/25/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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say you did use wormwood and then distilled, would the thugone stay in the alcohol vapor and recollect in your finished product?? I wonder if this would work for calamus, ginsing or THC..
The only thing i can think of to add would be coca.
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Legoulash]
#5790353 - 06/25/06 07:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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commercial absinthe is distilled and still has thujone in it, so i would say yes on that one, but i dont know about the others.
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: supra]
#5790413 - 06/25/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was thinking that mabey they distill it then add a few herbs to "flavor" it again. That would also allow the actives to be in the solution.
I need to find someone who can weld stainless.. i need a still.
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Re: What's good in liquor? [Re: Legoulash]
#5791697 - 06/26/06 06:10 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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According to this (google cache) the BP of Asarone is 296C.
http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:BCx...s&ct=clnk&cd=20
Asarone Isolation from Calamus Roots
The following is a snippet from Uncle Fester's "Practical" LSD Manufacture" But this has nothing to do with LSD production. Enjoy
Calumus oil, if its country of origin is India, consists of about 80% of the allyl isomer of asarone.
Asarone can be purified by distillation under a vacuum to yield fairly pure allyl-asarone. Its boiling point is 296øC at normal pressure and about 170øC with aspirator vacuum. More details on this Indian calamus oil can be found in Chem. Abstracts column 6585 (1935), also Current Science, Volume 3, page 552 (1935).
My search for calamus oil of Indian origin came up empty. In fact, the health-food store in my town, which is well-stocked with various oils for use in aromatherapy, had never heard of the stuff, nor was it listed for sale in their catalogs. This left one alternative: dig up the roots of North American calamus, and steam-distill the oil out of them.
While searching for calamus in my area's swamps, bogs and ponds, the damaging effects of the spread of purple loosestrife was obvious. This imported plant from Europe has taken over much of the former habitat of the calamus plant. Here in America, the loosestrife is free from the insect that keeps it under control in Europe by feeding on its seeds. The state paper-pushers have been thinking for years about importing the bug, without ever getting off their butts and doing it. I suggest this project to somebody out there in the reading public so that it can finally get done while there is still some native flora left.
After a lot of searching, I finally found a large patch of the American calamus. (See Figure 4.)
The time for harvesting the roots of the calamus is in the fall after the killing frost. The frost brings the oil down out of the leaves and into the root for winter storage. The roots are about a foot long, an inch or so in diameter, and run horizontally in the soil at a depth of a few inches. They are best dug out using a fork, taking care not to pierce the root, as this will cause loss of oil during drying. The dug-up roots should be rinsed free of dirt, and the tops cut off there in the field. (See Figure 5.) The roots should then be taken home and allowed to dry at room temperature for a week or two. Take care that they do not get moldy!
Once dried, oil can be distilled from them. This is done by first grinding up the roots in a blender or with a Salad Shooter, and piling the ground-up roots into a large pressure cooker.A good-sized pressure cooker will take a load of 10-15 pounds of root. Next, add a few gallons of water, a couple handfuls of salt, and mix.
The oil can now be distilled. Attach a five-foot length of copper tubing to the steam exit on the lid of the pressure cooker. Its diameter should match that of the steam exit so that steam is not lost here, and should be tightened into place with a pipe clamp. The tubing should then be led downward into a pail of ice water, and back up into a dark-glass 40 or 64 ounce beer bottle. The ice water cools the steam, turning it into water which collects in the bottles.
Heat is applied to the pressure cooker, bringing it to a boil. Heat as fast as is possible without bringing over foam or having uncondensed steam escape. When a couple of gallons have been distilled out, stop the heating and add a couple more gallons of water to the pressure cooker. Continue this process until 4-5 gallons of water have been collected.
This process is a steam distillation, and is the way most plant oils are obtained. The steam distillate in the beer bottles contains calamus oil floating on top of the water and clinging to the glass. Calamus oil produced from American plants is reddish brown, and has a strange, pleasant and sweet odor. For more detailed information on calamus oil see The Chemergic Digest August 30, 1943, pages 138-40, and Soap, Perfumery and Cosmetics August 1939, pages 685-88.
The oil is obtained by first saturating the steam distillate with salt, then extracting the oil with toluene (obtained off the shelf in the hardware store's paint section). About a gallon of toluene is plenty to effect the extraction. Then the toluene is removed by vacuum evaporation in a large filtering flask to yield the calamus oil as a residue in the filtering flask after the toluene has been evaporated. The yield is about 200 ml from 15 pounds of roots.
Calamus oil obtained from sources other than India differs from the Indian oil in two important respects. The amount of asarone in the oil is much lower than the 80% found in the Indian oil, and the position of the double bond is propenyl rather than allyl:
The asarone is obtained in pure form from the oil by fractional distillation under a vacuum. Asarone boils at about 170øC under good aspirator vacuum of 15-20 torr. The asarone fraction should be collected over a 20-degree range centered on 170øC. I found the yield of asarone from American plants to be about 15% of the oil, giving 30 ml from 15 pounds of root.
Asarone is a light-sensitive material, and as such, should be stored in the fridge or freezer. Upon standing in the fridge, it will crystallize, allowing further purification by filtering. The m.p. of the pure substance is 67øC. Asarone is listed as a cancer-suspect chemical, along with half the other substances in the world. In reality it is not particularly harmful. See Chem. Abstracts 1931, page 169. It also doesn't have any pronounced drug effect at reasonable
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