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Invisiblemrdasani
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Why would the top of casing layer contaminate?
    #569286 - 03/04/02 05:22 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Three pans of casings were dooped to being victims of green mold contamination only two weeks after being put in terranium. The thing that is very hard to follow:

Why would the top of the casing layer be a victim to contamination? I thought the peat moss and verm mix had little to no nutrition. Where would the contamination get its nutrients? Anno...do u know? :smile:


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Re: Why would the top of casing layer contaminate? [Re: mrdasani]
    #569326 - 03/04/02 07:00 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

you didnt sufficiently pasturize.

boil for 2 hours at 140* degrees.


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Re: Why would the top of casing layer contaminate? [Re: mrdasani]
    #569398 - 03/04/02 10:11 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Peat moss isn't exactly non-nutritive.

But straight vermiculite is.

If you're gonna use casing mixtures with any nutritive value, pasteurize.

Don't boil (212F) pasteurize (~160F)









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Re: Why would the top of casing layer contaminate? [Re: ChangLee]
    #570449 - 03/05/02 01:00 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

People can say that straight verm is non-nutritious all they want. It still contaminates. More likely with cobweb than trich, but trich will still hit it too. In the absence of any nutrition, contams can always eat mycelium as well as it's metabolic wastes. Not to mention that you don't need much "food" at all for contams. I mean, what nutrients is a ceramic tile shower made out of? It certainly propogats molds and mildews just fine given the right conditions.


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Re: Why would the top of casing layer contaminate? [Re: mycofile]
    #573113 - 03/08/02 02:21 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I have a PC , how would I know if the temp isn't gonna be at 240C and not 140? Is there a way to make sure its pasturized and not too hot?


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Re: Why would the top of casing layer contaminate? [Re: mrdasani]
    #573120 - 03/08/02 02:27 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

boil.....and use a Candy or a meat thermometer?


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Re: Why would the top of casing layer contaminate? [Re: Roadkill]
    #573130 - 03/08/02 02:37 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

A thermometer in a pressure cooker? I cant open the pot once its steaming hot. Its not posible to check the temperature that way....What is the usual way to pasturize casing guys? I always hear about putting casing in a pressure cooker, but there is not temp checker on there anyway? Whats the deal...?


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Re: Why would the top of casing layer contaminate? [Re: mrdasani]
    #573131 - 03/08/02 02:44 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I think he was refering to boiling it in a pot of water rather than pressure cooking.


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Re: Why would the top of casing layer contaminate? [Re: Roadkill]
    #573135 - 03/08/02 02:48 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

hey roadkill if u happen to read this thread one more time, i'd appreciate it....i wanted to know what u think about getting the casing mix, putting it in oven bag and pressure cooking in about 2 hours? does this seem right? has your friend's friend been doing it in a similar fasion?
thanks for the help roadkill


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Re: Why would the top of casing layer contaminate? [Re: mrdasani]
    #573138 - 03/08/02 02:52 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

no problem at all

I bake my casing stuff in the oven....sorry

350 degrees for 2 hours.....then i add water when needed.

no contams yet.....*crosses fingers*


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Re: Why would the top of casing layer contaminate? [Re: Roadkill]
    #573142 - 03/08/02 02:57 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

LOL, im worried about 214 degree overkill when im told to pasturize at 140 but you do it at 350 for two hours? Okay, i dont need to worry about this stupid question anymore...I'll just try a little bit at first with a test...gotta stop bothering to put questions that ill soon find the answer to anyway. But thanks for your input roadkill. I hope your havin fun with your hydropod! Peace.


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Re: Why would the top of casing layer contaminate? [Re: mrdasani]
    #573175 - 03/08/02 03:58 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

In reply to:

A thermometer in a pressure cooker? I cant open the pot once its steaming hot. Its not posible to check the temperature that way....What is the usual way to pasturize casing guys? I always hear about putting casing in a pressure cooker, but there is not temp checker on there anyway? Whats the deal...?





pasteurize in the PC... WITHOUT the lid, I have a very large pressure cooker, it also serves as a very large POT, ideal for stuffing a pillowcase full of 'whatever' for pastuerizing... the candy thermometer easily 'clips' onto the side.



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