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OfflineVisigoth
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Poo not colonizing casing layer
    #1049113 - 11/13/02 01:28 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Ok this is a bit complicated but here goes. My friend has just gotten into spawning dung. His first attempts were w. some bread loaf foil pans, the big ones. He used one quart birdseed to spawn 3 and they turned out great. Then he tried to spawn a much bigger container, 14 in. long x 12 in. wide x 5 in. deep. Filled it up and spawned w. 1 quart, it worked great, but then refused to colonized the casing layer, not a thing came thru. So he tried w. a smaller one 14 in. long x 9 in. wide x 5 in. deep. Same thing, it colonized hella fast, 6 days!! But has shown nothing coming thru the casing layer after 5 days!! Is there something harder about getting casings to work that are more than 3 in. deep or so?!?! Because that is the only difference between these bigguns and the foils, the substrate layer on the foil pans is like 3 in. What's the freakin deal??!?!

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Re: Poo not colonizing casing layer [Re: Visigoth]
    #1049135 - 11/13/02 01:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

what kind of casing layer are you using?


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Re: Poo not colonizing casing layer [Re: daussaulit]
    #1049152 - 11/13/02 01:44 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Soil, it works great on the smaller poo casings, so I can't understand why it's not working on the bigger ones.

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Re: Poo not colonizing casing layer [Re: Visigoth]
    #1049162 - 11/13/02 01:48 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

well poo is different than soil, I thought that a casing layer was suppose to be less than 1/2 inch thick.


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Re: Poo not colonizing casing layer [Re: daussaulit]
    #1049181 - 11/13/02 01:55 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

It is definitely less than a half inch thick. I'm saying the casing layer on the other ones that have worked well is soil too. He's doing the exact same thing on these big ones as he did on the smaller ones and they worked great. He's just wondering if the greater thickness of the substrate layer, has something to do w. the problem??

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Re: Poo not colonizing casing layer [Re: Visigoth]
    #1049224 - 11/13/02 02:11 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Sometimes a tiny diff in the moisture content of a substrate -- can make a BIG diff in colonization time. Same goes for casing mixes. Sometimes a tiny diff in ph can make a big diff in colonization time. All batches are not identical.

That is why I strongly recommend anyone SERIOUS about this (over the long term)purchase a ph & moisture meter. With one, you can test it for both EVERY TIME. That leads to CONSISTANCY & good results.

You can get a cheap ph & moisture meter at home dpot, lowes and/or any big garden supply store under $20.

For the best (but not the most expensive), do a search on "Kelway" ph & moisture meter. Fungi perfecti sells them for $120. You can find them on the net @ $97.95.

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    #1049319 - 11/13/02 02:43 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Poo not colonizing casing layer [Re: vatoloco]
    #1049520 - 11/13/02 03:48 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Can u really get decent results w. out applying a casing layer to poo?? I've always heard that u get much better results by using a casing layer!!

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    #1050049 - 11/13/02 07:58 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Poo not colonizing casing layer [Re: vatoloco]
    #1050217 - 11/13/02 09:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

nice flush, i'd still say using a casing layer is better. I agree with six tango here.. the moisture was probably off.


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Re: Poo not colonizing casing layer [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #1050229 - 11/13/02 09:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Vatoloco your flush would of been a lot more even if you had used a casing layer, I can tell you that much for sure.


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Re: Poo not colonizing casing layer [Re: Visigoth]
    #1051989 - 11/14/02 11:14 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know what the water content of your poo is but I've been using horse manure compost and find it doesn't need casing at all. In fact, I cased half a tray of Mr. G's B+ on Blue's Poo Compostand got nothing on that side at all!

Here's a pic:


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