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MrMolotov said:and you are an idiot.. we have the right to decide what we put into our own bodies. and whya re you posting on da drug forum if your anti drug?!

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shneck said:

Actually, he's right.
After I read his post I saw all my misery clear and straight.
Now I know I was just being a chicken and hiding my frustration behind this wicked habit of taking illegal substances in an effort to escape reality. God, they ARE illegal for a reason, aren't they!
Now I see why pretty girls don't kiss me - no matter be it in a mall, in a bus or in a cinema. I'm gonna put an end to it 'cause girls are good and drugs are bad.
Just one thing still nags me. When I stop drugging and babes are all over me how will I know which of them shroom? 'Cause I don't wanna be kissed by a pretty girl that eats something growing from poo, and most of girls are so spoilt these days, you know.
That's a dilemma I'm facing now: you eat from poo - they don't kiss you, you don't eat from poo - you're kissed by them eating from poo.
This shit makes me mad. Help anyone?

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erjone said:

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MrMolotov said:and you are an idiot.. we have the right to decide what we put into our own bodies. and whya re you posting on da drug forum if your anti drug?!

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I wouldn't really cast stones back. First off, it is pretty obvious that person only came here to start problems. Secondly, he isn't completely off base. These things (while very positive in certain aspects) are bad for you. Lets face it... they aren't exactly 100% healthy for you. That is neither here nor there though, as they are different for different people. My following is an example.

While todays little journey was definately enlightening in certain aspects, it was unenjoyable in others. I think I have just reached a point in life where I don't really enjoy mind altering stimuli that much anymore. It was definately more powerful than my last time, but not overpowering either. I played some records, talked to a few friends over the phone, and just laid back with my woman in bed for hours.

The positives were that I again saw certain problems in myself such as lack of self confidence, and also observed other things such as my vanity and the need to self motivate. I am in a place in my life where I feel I need to pick up the pace and have been severly slacking in that. I think today might have given me the boost after some soul searching.

The negatives, which weren't really all that bad, were that the physical being of the experience was very poor. My heartrate was high, I was sweating and clammy most of the day, and after the 2 hour mark, I lost motivation to do anything and just laid down feeling as if I could not move. Not so much a "too far gone to move" situation, but just that I felt drained of energy. Wierd thing was that I had plenty of rest the night before. I also couldn't (or didn't want to) go to sleep.

Either way, it was a positive and I plan to finish up some leftovers in the near future. After that, I think I will be end my journies with mushies for good and I will stick to the greens for the occansional mind expanding moments.

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shneck said:

Actually, he's right.
After I read his post I saw all my misery clear and straight.
Now I know I was just being a chicken and hiding my frustration behind this wicked habit of taking illegal substances in an effort to escape reality. God, they ARE illegal for a reason, aren't they!
Now I see why pretty girls don't kiss me - no matter be it in a mall, in a bus or in a cinema. I'm gonna put an end to it 'cause girls are good and drugs are bad.
Just one thing still nags me. When I stop drugging and babes are all over me how will I know which of them shroom? 'Cause I don't wanna be kissed by a pretty girl that eats something growing from poo, and most of girls are so spoilt these days, you know.
That's a dilemma I'm facing now: you eat from poo - they don't kiss you, you don't eat from poo - you're kissed by them eating from poo.
This shit makes me mad. Help anyone?

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shneck said:

Disclaimer: I'm just basing on what I read in this thread and some of my eventual experiments, I'm not a chemist so my opinion is highly subjective and my conclusions may be quite wrong.
Still, I believe if you have just 1g to spare, 2 lemons or 1 lemon+lime will be well enough. I usually used 3 big lemons for 6-6.5g.
I'm pretty sure your way will work fine, it's just a matter of curiosity to try squeezing the most out of this method, isn't it?
So, I suggest summoning every friendly extraction power:

1. High ACIDITY - lemon/lime does it

2. Reasonably LONG EXTRACTION TIME - lost here, just an assumption of 4 to 24 hours because of a similar process with ayahuaska

3. Kaniz' suggestion of HEATING rings a bell - I kept my potion in hot water and after testing results last Saturday I'm gonna do it from now on.

BTW, just recently I've stumbled upon this: http://designer-drugs.com/pte/12.162.180.114/dcd/chemistry/psilocin.extraction.html
- these guys were heating acidic concoction up to 70%, so I presume there is no loss of active ingredients while extraction is intensified. They also state that "Psilocybin is completely dephosphorytated to psilocin by heating the acid extract". So, if I'm not wrong, the drink is already containing mostly psilocin, without the need for our own metabolic system to do any psilocybin2psilocin conversion. Maybe, this can explain faster onset.

4. FREEZING also helps IMO. Like I said before, I think it helps cracking the tough fungi cell casing - hence higher output.
Besides, double freeze/unfreeze routine adds just 2 more hours to the process. So why not?

That's how I did it last time in vivo:

0:00 - 0:10 Squeezed 3 lemons + 0.5 grapefruit, grinded 6.5g dry shrooms, added to the juice, shook vigourously a couple of times
0:10 - 2:00 Soaked the mix @room temp
2:00 - 3:00 Kept in a freezer
3:00 - 7:00 Soaked @room temp
7:00 - 9:00 Kept in a freezer
9:00 - 13:00 Soaked @room temp
13:00 - 15:00 Kept in a water bath (initial temp around 60C)
Filtered the shroom material 6 or 7 times with fine mesh and coffee filters until transparent bright yellow liquid with no traces of fungi matter. Resulting volume ~140 ml / a bit less than 5oz.
Left in a fridge (not freezer) till evening.
In the evening mixed about 20ml (a bit over 2/3oz) with half a glass of peach juice and downed in about 10 min.

Had a decent 3+ trip, surprisingly long one (about 9 hours - maybe, assisted by a small quantity of a maroccan hash smoked twice after effects started waning).
Shrooms used - Hawaiian PC, local grown.

The trip started fast ~15min, a bit rough with not too pleasant body load and somewhat grim introspections. This did not last long though, just in 1.5 hrs - general euphoria, GREAT visuals (WOW!), synesthesia, high emphatia, great revelations, very bright and happy feeling till the very end of experience.

Well, that's it. Guess it's pretty detailed and has sense to it.

Peace.

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