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OfflineMrBump
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Soccer and America
    #5547653 - 04/23/06 02:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Why does america give soccer the cold shoulder?

The press always rips on soccer, the sport never gets promoted like the other "big 3" sports, i hardly ever see highlights on Sports Center. MLS get relegated to ESPN 2 once a week, while i have to endure the arena football league or some PBA bowling skills trick shot challenge on a saturday afternoon. really, who the hell could name a bowling professional, yet, there it is, on TV in this country more than the world's favorite sport.

my theory is the reason soccer isnt in the mainstream sports media is as follows:

modern sports is so money driven, therefor, advertising for NFL games or NBA games costs millions. hell, the NBA has timeouts called "TV timeouts." advertisers shy away from soccer b/c there are no timeouts, there is no way to hock their products in the form of a 30 second spot like they want. putting your corporate logo next to the on-screen score box doesnt have the same effect as a 30 second spot about the latest "boner-pill" so corps. shy away from advertising out of a lack of creativity. this, in turn, offers no incentive for the major networks/ESPN to show games, soccer is never watched/discussed/analyzed by the masses.

worse yet, the lack of knowledge about the sport leads to its ridicule. soccer is not as tough as football or rugby, but its certainly as physical as bascketball and more physical than baseball. yet, it gets this rap as being a sport for pansy asses.

any thoughts?


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: MrBump]
    #5547789 - 04/23/06 03:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i love to play the game
and it's reasonably physical, but i'd say not as much as b-ball

it's just boring to watch

and aside from commercials, soccer has way more advertisement than other sports
the jerseys are plastered with siemens and sony and shit
as are the stadiums


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
    #5547923 - 04/23/06 03:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yeah i agree. i played soccer for years (8) and its still fun to play.. and requires just as much skill as other sports.. but bottom line is.. it is boring to watch.. most of the time..

it just doesnt compare to watching basketball or football..


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: Banez]
    #5547950 - 04/23/06 03:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i'd rather watch it than baseaball though, :argh:


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
    #5547959 - 04/23/06 03:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i used to feel the same.. until this year..ive found myself watching more and more baseball.. mainly to see how my fantasy players do.. i mainly enjoy watching pitching.. idk why something about nasty curveballs and fastballs just makes me love to watch some pitchers

chris carpenter, schilling, and beckett are among my favorites to watch.. and dontrelle willis!


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: Banez]
    #5548034 - 04/23/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The lack of interest is due to ignorance of the game (the time out thing may have something to do with promotion of the sport but if there was a market they would fill it regardless). Given the fact that it is so low scoring I find that even the inkling of a threat, if you can see it, is very exciting. The World Cup is fantastic because the players are so adept at taking advantage of every defensive mistake. I remember watching a game last WC and seeing a player get control deep in his own zone but with too much space. Sure enough, bing bang boom, easy goal. It was perfection. Either you get it or you don't. Most Americans don't realize what a threat every corner kick is, or every trip into the penalty box.


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5548132 - 04/23/06 04:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

it's not much different in terms of scoring and such than hockey
save for corner kicks

i loved corner kicks back in the day at goalie, i'd fuck that shit up


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
    #5548418 - 04/23/06 06:11 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yeah the world cup is amazing.. i remember going down to columbus crew stadium at like 4am to watch them play Germany.. there were thousands of people there.. we watched the game on a like.. HUGE screen.. and everyone was going nuts


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
    #5548671 - 04/23/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

I le magnifique said:
it's not much different in terms of scoring and such than hockey
save for corner kicks

i loved corner kicks back in the day at goalie, i'd fuck that shit up




Goals are much more common in hockey than in competitive footie.
I was a keeper. I fucking hated corners. They were too often like pinball. High and close... no problem; out there too far to wreck...no chance. Hated shit I couldn't see.


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5548928 - 04/23/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

hackey doesn't score that often

that's exactly why i liked corners, they're so hectic

plus if you leap over some cat and snag the ball you look like a total badass


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
    #5549458 - 04/23/06 10:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

There is a hell of a lot more scoring in hockey than in soccer.
I also think that soccer is a lot more commercialized than most other sports. There are ads everywhere. There aren't any TV commercials, but each half is sponsored by major corporations in order to keep it commercial free. Some soccer players make just as much money as the top stars in other leagues.


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: Real_Poopypants]
    #5550613 - 04/24/06 10:01 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Its like golf. Something that is a blast to play but I would rather watch the grass grow than watch it on T.V.


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: kilroy69]
    #5551299 - 04/24/06 02:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i'd rather golf just not exist, personally


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
    #20333039 - 07/26/14 03:50 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Man U beat the LA Galaxy 7-0

Is that to be expected?


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #20333062 - 07/26/14 03:54 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Yes.  MLS is pretty awful


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: zappaisgod]
    #20336564 - 07/27/14 08:11 AM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah the best American soccer players all play on euro club teams. MLS blows. They just need a big ass tv contract or something. Doubt that will happen because we have our own, better sports in the USA


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: Pureless]
    #20338067 - 07/27/14 02:02 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

I've always loved soccer I played competitively for over a decade. I still put on my cleats from time to time and join in games at the Nets.


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: Enjoywho]
    #20354809 - 07/31/14 09:14 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

AS Roma beat Real Madrid in the Cotton Bowl and about 20 fans invaded the pitch before the match was over. Many of them took selfies.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #20365108 - 08/02/14 02:54 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Did you guys see that guy kick a 50 yd FG with the broncos training camp like it was nothing.


Im amazed they don’t sign one of those dudes when they are too old to be good at soccer anymore.  Didn’t the vikings have like a 50 year old kicker?


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Re: Soccer and America [Re: elax420]
    #20365352 - 08/02/14 03:43 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I did see that. You gotta be able to deal with kick offs though. Remember Louis Sakoda?


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