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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: Dark_Star]
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ever since aperson and pickard got busted it seems like the abbundance of quality lsd has decreased. hopefully one day politicians and voters will pick up a neuropsychopharmicology book and figure out lsd has the lowest toxicity of any recreational active substance currently known to man.

the only time ive ever seen distinguished visuals was on lsd. I believe this is because of its small quanity needed to feel it. One can amplify the effects dramatically without having to ingest a bunch of other organic bulk making some sick to their stomachs, reinforcing the voice in the back of their minds that eating the fungus was a bad idea. IMO acid is the only way to have complex and distinguished open eye visuals while maintaining a sense of clarity. Mushrooms tend to make u confused, which can distract u from visual halucinations, or fear them. to me, acid is much more visual then mushies, without the mind fuck [or at least much less] .. the perfect halucinogen imho.


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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: MycoGlowFlow]
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if we all learned to submit to spirit, we would be left with nothing but clarity on any drug that is a catalyst to enlightenment, even marijuana, but obviously nothing near what psychedelics would offer with cooperation.  all ya'll problems lie in fighting the fungus and not letting go completely, you try to hang onto your egos, and it just aint happening without a fight back.  ya know?  :heart:

i only ever trip sat my homies on LSD, ive yet to take it cuz it is not around in my area.  I could tell that they had clarity like crazy, and very intune too.  i recall my one friend saying "LSD was too perfect."  and he looked fucking nuts, like shit what is he thinking about when he said that :shocked:  so yeah i would have to agree it must provide great clarity.

in my experience and observation of the 2 drugs, it seems that the shrooms work primarily on the brow chakra, and lsd seems to moreso affect the crown chakra(since you are all talking about clarity)  but both work on both of the chakras, its just one moreso than the other.  and of course ecstasy has a huge impact mainly on the heart chakra.  you should all read up on chakras to get a better understanding of how these drugs influence our body mind and soul.  it may help a great deal.  :sun:

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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: ]
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Well, besides the physical pain I get from Shroomz:

Shroomz, seem to give me the body WWOOoooSSSHHH'es - rushes, and makes me write creatively like a Mo~ Fo~....  My mind just keeps on thinkin....  And the next day there is an afterglow, and no "fuzzy head syndrome"....

LSD, It has been a while, but I remember jaw clenching, an "itch" in the middle of my body that you can't scratch, and made me play guitar like a good guitar player....  :smile:    Because I have not had too many chances, and it has been a while, I am not sure about creative writing or not....  I don't remember having profound thoughts like on shroomz....    It also seems to make the next day a little "fuzzy headed"....

Now that I have had more insight into both of them from finding the Shroomery, I am very eager for my next chance at Cid to see what I can actually get out of it....  That, or I will just play my guitar again - still VERY rewarding to me....

ChoW~,
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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: PhanTomCat]
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i would hve to agree that acid is easier on me than mushrooms, last time i ate 2.5 grams of mush i flippped within the first hours, and had to take soime valium, enede up laying on a bike path in the middle of a sports complex looking north to the ghlow of chicago witing for the bomb to get dropped.

i have ttaken some good acid though, the farries from wayyyy back, and the dragons, and i was always able to keep it togeather. once i took 2 hits and rode my bike around the heaviest traffic in town comming across cops more than once. not a problem..

interesting side note though, whenever i stopped riding my bike or moving, or when i tried to change cd's and the music would stop, the intensity would gather and amplify inside myself untill i got moving again.

but yeah


for me acid is easier to handle than mushies.


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: ZippoZ]
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I agree, it seems easier to go with the flow on acid to me. That's why I like mushis to last less.


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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
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Most of the stuff passed as dose today is really Alpha O DMS aka 5MeOAMT.... wackness

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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: Psychotropics]
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ya it sucks that research chems are being passed of as acid. thats why the only acid i ever eat is tasteless paper. as far as letting go of ego is concerned in relation to bugging out, i think it is more difficult with mushrooms because of how hard they are on the stomach [for some]. when i trip on mushies i always make a tea so i dont have to eat all the extra organic bulk that makes me feel ill. 2 septembers ago i ate a third of a sheet [this was my first time using acid in almost 2 years]. it was quality acid, ppl only had to eat one square to get a level 3 trip, but i wanted to have the fantastic visuals everyone talks about that i had never experianced before on shrooms or other halucinogens. so i ate like 30 squares and had the most powerful/visual trip of my entire life. Im sure some of u saw the yellow fly paper while it was fresh, it wasnt bad at all. Now if i could eat 3 milligrams of acid and not wig out, yet wig out when im on 3 grams of mushrooms- that should tell u something about it effects case and point. on mushrooms i wouldnt even be halucinating that hard but the psilocyben makes u question everything and tends to make u over analyze that which isnt important. I have eaten a half oz of mushrooms and not gotten the open eye visuals close to what 200 mics of lsd would give me. When i ate those 30 hits i mentioned earlier i didnt have to zone out or let go to see the fantastic complex visual display of the minds subconcious ability to create altered visual/orginizational perceptions. With shrooms its like u have to make ur self concentrate on nothing to see the visual changes. At best, even on a half oz of shrooms, id get breathing [slight shrinking and expanding of solid objects], mild brightness in color, and sometimes tranparent shifting patterns. On acid however the halucinations seemed nearly tangible, as if i could reach out and touch them. Upon dosing at 3 mgs i thought i should shave before i came up all the way [this was about 30 minutes after taking it, also scruffiness makes me perspire a little more] so i lathered up and began shaving with my moch three. as i pealed the foam off my face i saw patterns form on my skin where the stuble once was. these patterns turned into veins that surfaced on my skin and became like a war paint. i finished shaving aand walked away from my bathroom and layed on my bed. i was looking at the wall as i layed in my bed and the texture of the painted wall beeded up into water droplets like rain on a windshield. i could tell that the lsd was starting to kick into a higher mode[60 minutes] . I went back over to the mirror because i like looking at myself when im tripping {many ppl dislike doing this} i wanted to do everything that tends to give ppl bad trips. As i stared into the mirror i decided to fake scream, as if i was scared. So i opened my mouth as if i was screaming but i didnt actually scream, i only wanted to see what it would look like. Things started expanding at this point, definite lengths and borders began to flux. As i opened my mouth for a fake scream it would over extend a few inches . I know my mouth isnt large enough to fit my fist in it, yet when i watched it in the mirror it would widen to the size of a softball, my teeth widened as well. i had my arms stretched out and it seemed as if they were both growing longer. i went back to my bed at this point because i figured at the rate at which my halucinations started becoming more intense, id be out of my body in a few minutes. when i returned to my bed everything started to gain a constant movement, everything was animated. the carpeting in my room began to bubble up like lava, or cheese going thru an oven. the beeded water droplets on my wall began flowing upward. i could tell that my trip was getting more intense, so i decided to go to the bathroom in a toilet while i was still able to recognize it. i opened the door to my room and the hallway stetched like an extra 30 feet and tilted about 30 degrees [curved spiral] i some how made it back to my bed after excreting and thats when things really started to cook. I had a moment of clarity and thought to myself, "ppl usually see the devil, or claim that someone saw the devil while on lsd", as soon as i thought that one of the bubbles that had risen from the carpeting swelled up in size and cracked. a fissure split the top of the bubble and a massive wad of fiberous muscle tissue grew out from the bubble. this mass rose up into a 10 foot tall human looking entity with no skin, all muscle [i could see the muscles contracting and expanding, i was taking human anatomy that semester] arms unfolded from the center of its body, where a regular human hand would be, this entity had a second set of elbows. SO he had a set of three segmented arms, his face was hard to distinguish, like a black cloud with spiraled ram horns that continued to spiral and elongate. the entire time all of this was taking place i was completely clear, and fully aware that what i was seeing was not actually there- this allowed me to extremely ENJOY everything my mind was producing. It taught me how complex the mind is, the visual fabrication of such complex halucinations is an excellent example of the sheer potential of the human mind. i closed my eyes and was ingulfed by crystanthimum. the water continued to steam up my walls forming a 4 sided anti gravity waterfall. [ 120 minutes ] i layed there with my mouth open in awe of the craziness. At that point i broke thru with a moment of clarity and asked my self out loud "where is all the water going?"- as soon as i spoke those words my celing cracked into a bunch of puzzle peices with glowing yellow outlines and slowly began to life up, with nothing but space behind it i rose out of my bed and into space. i was engulfed in color and light. the whole time i was positive it was just one big set of halucinations. the next day [after 10 hours of sleep] i felt refreshed. i wasnt tripped out at all, and i got a b+ on my genetics test that i took.

the point im trying to make is this : acid doesnt screw up ur clarity nearly as much as mushrooms do. . . . . IMHO


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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: deathcapcubensis]
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Umm acid is indeed easier on the mind....shrooms are more dissasociative. Acid...lucid, on the other hand, it can be scarier because of the simple fact that all this madness is happening in such a lucid state, as opposed to mushrooms and there drunken-like mad hatter feel :smile:

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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: deathcapcubensis]
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Wow, usually these threads are all about how much better mushrooms affect you because they are natural and grow from the ground. I have to whole-heartedly agree that pure lsd is an extremely "cleaner" trip without the "psychedelic drunkeness" of mushrooms, although mushrooms are great too. Ive just never had a bad trip from lsd...well ive come close, but with lsd a near-bad trip is almost enjoyable whereas with mushrooms its pure hell. The biggest difference to me though is that acid makes you master of reality in an intangible way that could never be described to someone who has never experienced it.

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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: Catalysis]
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Well, LSD is quite harder than shrooms for me, just because of the long ride.

On the other hand LSD is much more easier, because it doesn't play mindtricks on me, as shrooms do.


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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: deathcapcubensis]
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I completly agree. I have taken lsd and shrooms quite a bit and i can roll with a lsd trip and take it to a high lever before i start getting confused and disoriented which happens to me on shrooms a lot.

Shrooms will have me laying on the floor with an overwhelming feeling i should be doing somthing, but i cant quite figure out what that is.


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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: baraka]
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Yes and no.

During the trip, I find mushrooms to be more physically and mentally incapacitating. I usually end up lying on the couch, awestruck.

On acid, there was clarity, rationality, and energy to do things. Even on high doses I could go out and about.

Return to normalcy is quicker with mushrooms. A next day afterglow versus feeling fried for a week or two.

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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: chrism]
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I get Depersonalization on lsd when I come down, its a scary feeling, very depressing, I can almost feel my seretonin depleteing

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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: deathcapcubensis]
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comes with the territory though, right? Shrooms have fried me for a couple of weeks, cubes no, cyans yes. Dont know why but those woodlovers fuck me up!

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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: kosmic_charlie]
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kosmic_charlie said:
I would guess you never had a really high dose of LSD. Don't think that acid can't spin you to the intensity that mushrooms can. It is different however. I've found that a heavy dose of mushrooms can confuse me and utterly mangle my thoughts. A heavy dose of LSD can make me higher than a kite but there is always this sense of clarity attached to it. Both drugs unveil similar truths in the end but acid has always offered me a greater feeling of clarity compared to mushrooms, which often confuse me. It's like comparing analog to digital. They both produce the same message but one is a little clearer than the other.


well put, i feel the same way... except maybe i do get some wild mindfuck on shrooms that i dont really get on acid... i can eat as low as an 1/8th and not be able to carry on a conversation whatsoever but can take a pretty big dose of lsd and still be able to carry on a conversation, not like im sober of course, but its alot easier for me on lsd... my mind dont feel mangled like on shrooms, and i never get nausiated on lsd... always been smooth sailing for me, definently my drug of choice and will be for along time until i try some other goods (i.e. dmt, 5-meo-dmt, 2cx)...

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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: deathcapcubensis]
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deathcapcubensis said:
Hey I was wondering if anyone has noticed that acid seems a bit easier on the mind than shrooms, shrooms tend to overwhelm my mind.


Yes, and it is that completely overwhelming experience that I live for. Hooray for overwhelming confusion, the source of all my magical powers.


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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: jux]
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Definitely have to agree here. Mushrooms, in my opinion, are a far more powerful, in terms of experience, psychedelic than acid. I consider LSD a clever alternative to drinking for recreational purposes... however mushrooms tend to invoke spiritual or deeply philosophical trips.

LSD-25, for me, is definitely easier to manipulate.

My best guess is the nature of 4-ho-dmt/4-po-dmt. Because of the DMT, one often feels 'at home,' or as if the reactions were meant to happen, and I have noted before, that mushroom trips (bad) can extend far beyond their usual perimeters of 4-5 hours... possibly because of an interaction with the serotogenic network and N-methyltransferase system, resulting in either longer exposure to the receptor sites, or endogenous production of DMT... I had one trip last about 10 hours... visually. However, towards the end, the trip felt a little different... like a threshold effect after smoking a very small amount of DMT.

I think LSD is more recreational than mushrooms.


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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: Herbus]
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IMO - LSD is much easier to handle then mushrooms at higher doses. On mushrooms, I feel like my head has been done in - I get lost in my own thoughts and loops. I find LSD to be a much more lucid and less confusing expierence myself.

Not saying one is better than the other, I like them both alot. But IMO - mush is a bit harder on the head than LSD.

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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: learning_byte]
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learning_byte said:
on mushies it is like me opening my mouth, grab the sides of it with my fingers, put my tongue out and scream Argha rghargh argh. 


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Re: lsd, harder? [Re: swampthing]
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To me, the difference between shrooms and acid is that acid feels a lot more 'accpeting'.

I will see something insane and unbelievable on acid and just feel like 'yeah, i expected that'. Where as on shrooms I am in constant awe.

I think it's the speediness that acid has with it. It almost starts you out in a good mood. Whereas shrooms leave your mood how it was before you ate them and then throws it into a trip.

So, yeah, my experience is that acid is easier to handle. I do, however, prefer shrooms.


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