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February 2006 in San Francisco
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It's definately getting really dry...You know it's getting toward the end when the cherry trees are blooming like they are all over SF now.

But there's still a few spunky little whippersnappers around in some sheltered areas where the sun barely shines. That's about the only place you'll see fungi after this dry spell. Not like November, that's for sure...maybe next year will be better rains














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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: auweia]
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i found some still wet cyans in SF on friday. i left a lot of pins too.


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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: Quankus]
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yeah, of course..Actually, there are mushrooms almost all year around, including cyans in San Francisco and some places on the coast, even in August when it hasn't rained for months, even in places that aren't watered. And that's because of the fog in the summetime that condenses in the trees while it stays cool. Those places, the mycelium stays moist all year

But that's still kind of rare. I meant overall in general. There's alot of places that are exposed to sunlight, no trees, no water, no grass and those places are pretty dry now, except two inches underground where the mycelium is still moist right now, but will dry up in a couple months

there is big difference in some of these microclimates here. In some places, because of the hills/trees, 2 feet can make all the difference.

In some of the canyons there are still big flushes, but in downtown Oakland by the freeway, there might be a few stropharias, but it's almost tumbleweeds out there

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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: auweia]
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nice finds. If it ever starts to rain this winter then maybe another trip to sf is in order


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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: auweia]
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Interesting finds, looks like it is very dry out there, judging by the mushrooms anyway.


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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: eris]
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Man, I've made a many trip to GGP these past couple of weeks without much luck. Found some nonactives near the water and such. It's mostly because my only resource of any information is from you guys and your posts.

I'd love to accompany a trip to SF if you guys wouldn't mind. I'm actually in San Bruno so it's not a far ways off.

I don't know how you guys are with noobs and the sort, but if not then I guess I'll trek the land on my own!

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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: larksinc]
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Ok, larksinc, I will show you some stuff, but not in person, because from experience, it never quite works that well.  I always look by myself, it's the only way to know for sure

This species, cyanescens complex, is rare here in the Bay Area. In my 20 years of picking, I would say that Stropharia species outnumbers psilocybe species by at least 100 to 1, that is, for evey 100 places you find non-edible, non-poisonous common Stropharias, you might find one patch of cyans in the back somewhere. Sometimes it's the opposite, but that is even more rare.

Right now, larksinc, it's a little late in the season and I'll show you why. I grew up a little in San Bruno, and went to Westborough Jr High up near skyline. When you travel to GG Park from San Bruno to look for shrooms, I ask, why?  why would you go that far when mushrooms were growing right there in San Bruno this year.

Note to the admins, there are NO actives locations in this message, so I don't mind saying some location, it's simply to show habititat, the type of environment they grow in...This photo  >  http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5549/m15tf.jpg

This is Sneath Ln, right above the 280 Freeway...Go up, about a half mile, you will see a huge woodchip pile right along Sneath...about halfway up to Skyline...Again, there are NO actives in this patch, this is all stropharias, mostly the red stropharias as pictured here.

About 2 weeks after this photo was taken I went back there and it was almost solid red with those stropharias, to the point where you couldn't find a place to plant actives even if you wanted to.

I've checked this repeatedly over the years and never found actives there, yet it is still possible...Why?...because the P cyanescens complex is just like any other wood chip species, and someday, instead of seeing all stropharias, you might see all cyanescens...And why is that?...it is because each species has weaker and stronger strains, and while this year and last year Stropharia rules this patch, all it takes is a very aggresive strain of cyanescens to infiltrate and fight back.....

Things like this change all the time, from year to year, and I think it's a little late in the season this year, see the date on the photo, Dec 6, 2005...One suggestion I have for you. It is very easy to find this woodchip pile along Sneath Ln, but there's no parking nearby..Blink, and you'll miss it going up or down that hill, but it's right on the side of the road.

Go up there soon, in the next few weeks, and pick out any place in that woodchip pile and dig down a few inches. I guarantee just about anywhere you stick you finger, you'll find white mycelium about 2 inches below the surface, and NONE of it is actives, but it's the exact same enviroment...it just didn't happen *there*

but two miles south along the same skyline, in another city, I found this  >   

>> location undisclosed :smile:

and also more of those same red stopharias, except this time, the red ones didn't overtake the entire area like the San Bruno woodchip pile

Further up Sneath Lane and just north on Skyline in the opposite direction, is Skyline College, where I took this photo at the top of the hill  >   




Again, I've bicycled up there many times and never have found any actives, but there are lots of stropharias, and lots of woodchips, so maybe one of these daaaaaaaays...It might be next year, or ten years from now...nobody knows  :smile:

Also, on Sneath Lane near El Camino is a cemetary, and on the corner of that starts a loooong woodchip dump, also with nothing but red stropharias (I've checked it many times)..

see how much work it takes?  I've seen people on this forum complain about people who say "go out and look"...But people like me complain "do you have any idea how much work is involved"?...There is in fact, only one way to do it...You have to get up out of your seat, get in you car, walk or bike, and start exploring your city here in the Bay Area.

Even if it is too late in the season, like now, even in Golden Gate Park.....Something you can do all year long, no matter what the season > pay attention to anywhere you see woodchips, it doesn't matter if you see mushrooms or not..write it down if you have to and go back and check it again in November/December...check it twice..check it thrice.

You know how many places I pay attention to all year long in the bay area when I see woodchips?...I lost count long ago, but it's over 10,000, and all from memory.  Almost all of them I can check in the 1 month critical period like this year.

All of this is in public places, and none of it is private. Every single one of the places I know about, anybody can find, and THAT, folks, is the whole point  :smile:

Take for example, this photo  >   

You know where this is...I don't need to be more specific...Again, these are NOT active...just another little brown mushroom, possibly mycena, I have no clue

Lastly, here's a good challenge for all you location sluts, and I mean that in a friendly way..

Try and figure this one out, aspecially you Tahoe...After a few months when I looked at it, it took me a few hours to remember where I took this myself..I seriously had trouble remembering where I took this photo, but it's one of THE most diabolical locations ever in San Francisco....In fact, you're looking at the skyline in the background, including the Transamerica Pyramid  >> 


You will see that the San Francisco skyline is in the background....In the foreground is more woodchips, and more red stropharias...No actives here either  :P

Yet, it is still possible they can occur at some future date. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY can say for sure

The point is, it's not good enough to know a place like Golden Gate Park...well, ok...maybe sometimes,


but still, why bother with GG Park when they grow all over the bay, including...(well at least very close to) San Bruno..

Certainly they can grow in San Bruno itself....Just because I haven't found them in the city proper, doesn't mean they dont actually grow there...In fact, it's very likely they grow in San Bruno, somewhere..

I just havn't found it.........yet....hehe


One more time...where is that last photo with a view of the skyline?...3 brownie points and a couple more clues with the right answer..hehe  :smile:

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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: auweia]
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Wow, auweia, thanks for the lengthy response. I really didn't expect such a reponse.

I guess it's a typical newbie way of thinking:
"Well, where do actives grow? Surely San Francisco! The mecha of psychadelics, and what better spot than Golden Gate Park? A fertile, humungous planting ground? Yes!" Then off to GGP I go.

But once I get there I'm always struck with HOW BIG THE PARK IS. I know woodchips and I know tall grass and I found some non-actives near the water the other day, which made my heart flutter. I knew they weren't active, but finding a mushroom is always exciting.

Thank you for the advice, I always thought that an active mushroom is usually spread by those who plant them, but they act and are spread like any other mushroom would naturally, wouldn't they. They're just mushrooms after all.

So, thanks again and I'll keep my eyes peeled for sure.

Edited by larksinc (02/12/06 01:30 AM)

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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: auweia]
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Coming to this thread rather late, but anyway -

The mushrooms in the Presidio picture are a species of Tubaria - don't ask me which species, as this group is lacking in any kind of monograph, so who knows what it is. Tubaria are pretty ubiquitous, though, both in woodchip beds and in wild areas along roads and trails.

As for the location challenge in the Transamerica Pyramid picture - Ft Baker, near Sausalito. (Do I win a prize?)

Peter

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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: Strophariaceae]
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Damn Sf has an early season!! Fl season is just getting started Im on the hunt for meanies!!

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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: DarkMark]
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It snowed at Mt. Tam yesterday, how nuts is that.


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Edited by Quankus (02/18/06 08:14 PM)

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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: Strophariaceae]
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Thanks Peter, I always wondered what those little ones where...Not quite brown enough for LBM but I see them all the time, and hardly pay attention to them unless it's a photo like that. The name is something I should remember as part of a continuing education.

Tubaria is a name I don't remember seeing in any reading before, and it's probably because most people don't bother with these either. Yet sometimes it's the same environment as other ones people do bother with.

As for the Transamerica photo, it's a good guess, but look closer and you'll see that from Fort Baker, the skyline wouldn't look like that.


That's from the north, anmd i've been of the GG Bridge many times...

Hint...this is from the west, but not the East Bay....and that should nartrow it down plenty...It's just an example that nobody ever thought of, but literally millions of people pass it by every day, including most of the people who travel to SF to look for mushrooms.

Yep, it's true....There are destinations people go to, but always ask yourself how much you miss on the way there...hehe  :smile:

Strophariaceae said:
Coming to this thread rather late, but anyway -

The mushrooms in the Presidio picture are a species of Tubaria - don't ask me which species, as this group is lacking in any kind of monograph, so who knows what it is. Tubaria are pretty ubiquitous, though, both in woodchip beds and in wild areas along roads and trails.

As for the location challenge in the Transamerica Pyramid picture - Ft Baker, near Sausalito. (Do I win a prize?)

Peter


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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: Quankus]
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Quankus said:
It snowed at Mt. Tam yesterday, how nuts is that.


It snowed enough on Highway 17 out of Santa Cruz to stop traffic today..Also on skyline in Berkeley at 1200 feet.

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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: DarkMark]
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DarkMark said:
Damn Sf has an early season!! Fl season is just getting started Im on the hunt for meanies!!


No..SF has a late season compared with the USA Pacific northwest of Oregon and Washington....Normally it starts a month later and lasts a month later...sometimes alot longer too because it usually doesn't freeze like it does in Oregon and Washington..

(even from Eureka north thru Crescent City, CA, Brookings, Oregon, it is more like Oregon than down here...I spent alot of time in Crescent City back in the 80's and usually by Halloween people are shrooming.

But it's rare for SF to get it that early

Is F1 a reference to

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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: auweia]
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Ok Peter, and all....one more time...The Brain teaser for the San Francisco locals  >>>>       

You will notice that the Transamerica pyramid building in the background is on the right. That is on the edge of North Beach, SF and is on the north side of all the tall buildings in SF, seen from anywhere on the waterfront...The fact that the pyramid is on the right should give you a direction.

This photo is not taken looking south, it is taken looking west, and it is NOT the East Bay, even though that is west.

There is, actually, only one possibilty for that to happen, but you have to really know SF and the bay to figure this out.

Hint, this area used to be a Navy military area, a San Francisco supervisor recently got fired because of alleged mishandling of low income housing in this area...

You cannot legally bicycle to this place...hehe...but I did, and I did it legally, but can't say how right now.

But, the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition has been negotiating with the city of San Francisco so that you CAN bicycle to this area legally.

There have been protests with bicycles over this same area on access to this same place, to the point where people have been put in jail for the right to legally bicycle to this place.

an international exposition was held on this site before World War 2, just before the Navy gained control of it...It now belongs to the city of San Francisco as of 5 years ago..

Need any more hints?.....If you have guessed right, there is no harm in posting it...I covered the whole place many times, and never found any actives...But I did find many red stropharias, just like in the above photo....

Still, you just never know, because there are places now where SF may be looking to dump woodchips in the future  :smile:

Just an example of the kind of things the locals know about...But certainly not the crown jewels...hehe

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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: auweia]
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one more hint.....this photo is pointed almost directly toward Pier 1 and the Embarcadedero in San Francisco

It's almost the same image you will get taking any of the ferrys to all points in the Bay Area, from Pier 1.

I've done it many times...hehe

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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: auweia]
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It looks like that road that runs parallel to I80 when going through Oakland on your way to the Bay bridge. With the rocks on the edge of the water.

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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: Quankus]
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Hi auweia,

No more needs for hints. Anyone watching myth busters knows where that place is or least they should. As a note, I went for a short walk yesterday and found much of nothing. Just enough for four pictures and nothing anyone here is interested in except a potential Conocybe filaris or two.


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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: baycafe]
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found this today in San Bruno....Hehe...getting pretty old there...Not recommended fresh at all, but after drying they are usually somewhat OK, once the bacteria is gone. This is sort of like dumpster diving shrooms...hehe

This is a place I have checked many times over the years, and this time, there was some, and some where cut with a scissor and left behind and rejected..You can see one stem butt with a scissor cut.

I could see a few baby ones too....So somebody else knows about this, obviously...It's possible somebody could have been picking here for years, and I just never got there at the right time, or just after they were picked. But I've been strongly suspicous of this woodchip dump for years...Many many other species all over a couple months ago.

But the place is too close to heavy traffic, so it's really obvious :P

The cyan spot really isn't that big anyway so what I did was take a few chips and stem butts, and i'll make cardboard and make another spot on a better place.

Other than that, this little spot has good potential...Lots of woodchips and food for it...Maybe if this strain is agressive enough, it can fight back all those diabolical stropharias surrounding it.

mushroom gladiators...hehe

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Re: February 2006 in San Francisco [Re: baycafe]
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found this today in San Bruno....Hehe...getting pretty old there...Not recommended fresh at all, but after drying they are usually somewhat OK, once the bacteria is gone. This is sort of like dumpster diving shrooms...hehe





This is a place I have checked many times over the years, and this time, there was some, and some where cut with a scissor and left behind and rejected..You can see one stem butt with a scissor cut.

I could see a few baby ones too....So somebody else knows about this, obviously...It's possible somebody could have been picking here for years, and I just never got there at the right time, or just after they were picked. But I've been strongly suspicous of this woodchip dump for years...Many many other species all over a couple months ago.

But the place is too close to heavy traffic, so it's really obvious :P

The cyan spot really isn't that big anyway so what I did was take a few chips and stem butts, and i'll make cardboard and make another spot on a better place.

Other than that, this little spot has good potential...Lots of woodchips and food for it...Maybe if this strain is agressive enough, it can fight back all those diabolical stropharias surrounding it.

mushroom gladiators...hehe

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