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question about incabation and casing please reply
    #521283 - 01/15/02 04:41 AM (22 years, 9 months ago)

i was reading a few forums and i saw the one about incabation...ok i am a little confused....i plan to sterlize my casing in jars and pressure cook it for 1 hour. is this sufficent to sterlize the casing mix?now ,what im confused about is why u incabate the casings?for how long then store it where until the jars are ready..i have never saw a tek with instructions to incabate the casing mix.only the substrate.i plan on using 50 verm 50 peat for my casing.any way thanks alot guys!
-Lee


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Re: question about incabation and casing please reply [Re: tomatofarmer]
    #521288 - 01/15/02 04:55 AM (22 years, 9 months ago)

Don't worry about making your casing til your jars are done.
Then you can make your casing.


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Re: question about incabation and casing please reply [Re: tomatofarmer]
    #521292 - 01/15/02 05:10 AM (22 years, 9 months ago)

So you don't need to incubate the casing per say.
You will incubate the casing with your jars after the jars are done.
You will put crumbled or blended jars into a pan...then put the casing over the top of the crumbled or blended jar substrate.
Here is Anno's casing mix:
"A casing made of 10 parts peat or potting soil, 10 parts vermiculite, 1 part limestome(calcium carbonate) and water, pasteurized in the microwave for 10 minutes, worked very good for me."
You should probably follow Anno's casing.....since he has a great success rate....I am using his.
The reason you want to use the lime is to buffer the ph of the casing....this can be very important.
I asked about water content since i don't see very much water measurements and this is what he said.
"when you press a handfull of the casing meterial in your hand not too hard and a few drops of water come out, then the moisture is correct. "
You don't have to use the microwave....you can PC the casing material too....some even use the oven.
Hope that help's you.


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PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: question about incabation and casing please reply [Re: Roadkill]
    #521778 - 01/15/02 10:43 PM (22 years, 9 months ago)

Quick question... when you use a microwave to pastuerize, do you put the material(s) into a sealed tupperware? or add water? I took some dry verm and nuked it in an uncovered tupperware dish for like 5 mins... and the shit melted a hole in the bottom of the bowl...

Suggestions??

Thanks...

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Re: question about incabation and casing please reply [Re: tomatofarmer]
    #521863 - 01/15/02 11:55 PM (22 years, 9 months ago)

A CASING is a tray of colonized substrate that has been covered with a layer of CASING SOIL.
Jars of substrate are INCUBATED while the mycelium colonizes the substrate.
CASINGS are also INCUBATED immediately after they are cased with CASING SOIL. The newly cased tray is covered with plastic, or the lid the tray came with, and incubated in the dark until mycelium is seen peaking through the casing soil at more then one spot.
Once you see the mycelium peaking through, you remove the plastic, or lid and place the entire casing inside your FRUITING CHAMBER. This chamber should allow AIR EXCHANGE, and the ability to adjust HUMIDITY.
A FRUITING CHAMBER can be as simple as a cooler, a rubbermaid container, or can be as complex as you want it to be. Simpler means it is not automated. You have to fan manually occasionally, and mist manually, occasionaly.

Your casing soil is Sterilized, cooled, and carefully and cleanly applied to the broken up and layed out colonized substrate. It is applied evenly, but never compacted. It should be moist, but not wet. Never let it dry out, never let it puddle water.
You do not have to incubate the casing soil.
You incubate colonizing substrate and casings.

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Re: question about incabation and casing please reply [Re: Matty_Rulez]
    #521868 - 01/15/02 11:59 PM (22 years, 9 months ago)

Wetted of course.

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