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 The_Evil_Leaf
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 Consum Mushroom A Legal Right? 
#500593 - 12/25/01 04:01 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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Im sure manny of you are familure with the evidence for reason to belive that mushrooms have been consumed in religious manners and is also influincial not only to religion but as well a part of the human speacies digestion since its beginning. If there is reason to suspect that mushrooms may have been the original fruit of knoledge or that moses consumed mushrooms or manna with his people and seeing as indians are able to practice the consumption of peyote because of there religious beliefs well... if the government cant take away there right to choise witch chemicals they digest what right do they have to restrict us of what they deem unfit. Why as a christain or a Jew or a Catholic cant i consume mushrooms if i belive it will take me to another spiritual level? We as a society must earn our right we must come togeather and show the opressors of our rights the very people who would say our rights exist because of...
we must do whatever we can until every human his there natural rights not only because its a richious thing or because of freedom or because the reasons for it being legal outweighs by far reasons against who knows... maybe mushrooms becoming legal would lead to an ultimite utopia.
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 Re: Consum Mushroom A Legal Right? [Re: The_Evil_Leaf]
#500660 - 12/25/01 08:51 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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I believe you. Belieifs that spirits need to be watched.
But by who. Non believers. Only by the worshippers.
But so few. And therefore too little police for the evil.
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Re: Consum Mushroom A Legal Right? [Re: The_Evil_Leaf]
#501145 - 12/25/01 08:48 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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well the government didn't base their choice to allow native americans to consume peyote on reason, they did it because off all the shit they've done to them, they figure it's a small concession to make to keep them satisfied and complacent, plus they are only used in religious ceremonies on reservations so it will have virtually no effect on the mindset of the rest of the american public.
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Re: Consum Mushroom A Legal Right? [Re: Amoeba665]
#501288 - 12/26/01 12:30 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thats part of it but it also has to do alot with religious freedom
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Re: Consum Mushroom A Legal Right? [Re: The_Evil_Leaf]
#501445 - 12/26/01 07:25 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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well, i *do* use it for religious purposes and i know plenty of other people on here do too... but if i told that to the government, they would just laugh at me all the way to the jail. i suppose it's because there are no other religions where it has been a staple since before the involvement of the government. its not fair, though.. i should create a religion and claim to have had revelations from gods and things like that so that i can work to make it legal for religious use. but i suppose they would just say that i "hallucinated" my divine encounter because i was on drugs. and persecute me. but, maybe 2,000 years from now there will be millions of "amoebans" who use mushrooms as a sacrament. that would be nice.
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Re: Consum Mushroom A Legal Right? [Re: The_Evil_Leaf]
#501446 - 12/26/01 07:27 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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that religious rights thing will not float in a court of law unless you are a native american on reservation land. If you are just another white kid who wants to get high, expect to spend a LOT of money on lawsuits, etc., and expect to fail in the end. good luck (-:
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Re: Consum Mushroom A Legal Right? [Re: PGF]
#501736 - 12/26/01 06:16 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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non- indian peyote farmers have had their cases dropped. freedom of religion act applies to all. true,the crops were confiscated and destroyed with no restitution, but it's a start.
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Re: Consum Mushroom A Legal Right? [Re: COZMKSTRCHLD]
#503233 - 12/28/01 11:38 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's got to start somewhere but how?
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Re: Consum Mushroom A Legal Right? [Re: COZMKSTRCHLD]
#503257 - 12/28/01 12:04 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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more like a dead end in today's climate....but don't let me disuade you from trying.
I think from a legal standpoint there are, perhaps, some better ways of going about these sort of things....
the big one with marijuana is the medical thing right now..........which may work in states but on a federal level it is kaput for now.........
I wish the BS would just be done with......everyone knows prohibition does not work, at all and never has......
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Re: Consum Mushroom A Legal Right? [Re: upupup]
#503924 - 12/29/01 04:25 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thats actually a good question heres how it must start...
if you smoke marijuana smoke marijuana in movie theatres
if everyone smokes then they cant convict every marijuana smoker in america there are way to fuckin manny most of america smokes marijuana they say its going to be 10 years till its legal why should we have to wait 10 years if they alreaxdy know its going to be legal we must deman it be legal now as well with mushrooms and lsd
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Re: Consum Mushroom A Legal Right? [Re: PGF]
#504073 - 12/29/01 12:21 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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Constitutional grounds are the best way to go because there is little room for loopholes.
They did not argue medical marijuana constitutionally and look where it got them.
I imagine that what we should do is set up a church. Make it nice and legal with symbols and everything.
Then, we can only use mushrooms as a religious ritual. It is well documented that they have a spiritual signifigance. I think it could work.
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Re: Consum Mushroom A Legal Right? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
#504121 - 12/29/01 01:59 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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it has been tried by whitey hippie kids more than once in the past and failed. Unless the wod climate changes dramatically, I don't see how it could work.....but might as well try.
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Re: Consum Mushroom A Legal Right? [Re: The_Evil_Leaf]
#505630 - 12/31/01 02:08 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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Word.
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Re: Consum Mushroom A Legal Right? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
#507340 - 01/02/02 01:35 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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That is not a good idea. All church's are seriously watched and monitered by the FBI as soon as tax id numbers are issued.
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Re: Consum Mushroom A Legal Right? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
#507522 - 01/02/02 09:43 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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Join the November Coalition. There are very progressive. Their main thrust is to free WOD prisoners.
They will send you literature to distribute in your area to educate the masses on the destructivenes of the WOD.
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Re: Consum Mushroom A Legal Right? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
#507531 - 01/02/02 09:57 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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I believe the religion or church must be "recognized" by the government in order to make it legitimate. and i doubt the government is going to recognize a religion with less than a few million members [esp if it has wild ideas like smoking weed or sacrafising bald eagles]. And even then they probably have a way to fuck you over even though you think your religious practices are protected.
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