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Dinosaurs extinct?
    #4998660 - 11/30/05 02:20 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

And/Or did they evolve?

Are we not, what is left of the dinosaurs? ..

I am just asking..

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Re: Dinosaurs extinct? [Re: Gomp]
    #4998675 - 11/30/05 02:27 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

The latest thinking is that birds are the nearest living relatives of the dinosaurs. (My youngest son is obsessed with dinosaurs, so I have watched many, many documentaries on the subject.)

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Re: [Re: Gomp]
    #4998697 - 11/30/05 02:33 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Are we not, what is left of the dinosaurs? ..



No, we are mammals, which evolved on a separate evolutionary branch from dinosaurs. Mammals evolved from an earlier group of reptiles known as synapsids, specifically the group known as therapsids. The most famous of these is the Dimetrodon, which is commonly mistaken for a dinosaur. So no, we are not what is left of the dinosaurs.

What is left of the dinosaurs are modern birds. They evolved from a group of dinosaurs known as theropods, which also included predators such as Tyrannosaurus, Velociraptor, and Deinonychus. All non-theropd dinosaurs died out during the Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event, just as all non-therapsid synapsids died out during the Permian-Triassic extinction event.



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Re: Dinosaurs extinct? [Re: Gomp]
    #4998911 - 11/30/05 03:19 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

You're "just" asking? Ha! You're up to no good Gomp and I'm on to you, and don't you forget it. :crankey:


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Re: [Re: Silversoul]
    #4998968 - 11/30/05 03:27 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Gomp said:
Are we not, what is left of the dinosaurs? ..



No, we are mammals, which evolved on a separate evolutionary branch from dinosaurs.  Mammals evolved from an earlier group of reptiles known as synapsids, specifically the group known as therapsids.  The most famous of these is the Dimetrodon, which is commonly mistaken for a dinosaur.  So no, we are not what is left of the dinosaurs.

What is left of the dinosaurs are modern birds.  They evolved from a group of dinosaurs known as theropods, which also included predators such as Tyrannosaurus, Velociraptor, and Deinonychus.  All non-theropd dinosaurs died out during the Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event, just as all non-therapsid synapsids died out during the Permian-Triassic extinction event.







are we not birds?

who do you confine, "we" as being???

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Re: Dinosaurs extinct? [Re: Icelander]
    #4998977 - 11/30/05 03:28 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

:rofl:

i don't smell anythign stinky (or sneaky)....

but that got me guessing....

but also...

maybe

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Re: Dinosaurs extinct? [Re: Icelander]
    #4998980 - 11/30/05 03:29 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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You're "just" asking? Ha! You're up to no good Gomp and I'm on to you, and don't you forget it. :crankey:




"on to you" ... yes...

on to me.. no..

and/or? :P

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Re: [Re: Gomp]
    #4999086 - 11/30/05 03:47 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Gomp said:
are we not birds?

who do you confine, "we" as being???



I assumed that by "we," you meant humans, in which case no, we are not birds. We are mammals. If you are speaking in broader terms by defining "we" as life itself, then yes, "we" are dinosaurs, as well as mammals, birds, modern reptiles, amphibians, etc.


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Re: Dinosaurs extinct? [Re: Gomp]
    #4999088 - 11/30/05 03:47 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

You're on to me? Who's on top? :bananabang:


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Re: Dinosaurs extinct? [Re: Icelander]
    #4999167 - 11/30/05 04:03 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Ya'll should get a room.

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Re: Dinosaurs extinct? [Re: Gomp]
    #4999414 - 11/30/05 04:46 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

sorry guys, i got some bad news for ya.

Dinosaurs are still alive and well.

lol

ok maybe thats a bit bold, but check it out.

make your own judgments,

THIS is a coelacanth, once universally thought to be extinct. Now science nows better, as one was discoverd recently (a couple million years later than he should have been) since a c few more livin ones have been found



THIS is a not so extinct "Diplocaulus"




Diplacaulus (meaning "double stalk") was not a dinosaur but an early amphibian, now extinct. It was distinguished by its boomerang-shaped head which was formed by two elongated bones at the back of the head. It had four short legs, and a short, flattened tail. It was about 3 feet (1 m) long.


THIS as best as anyone can figure out, is either a relic pterandon baby or some inbetween stage missing link between prehistoric avian reptiles and modern birds:



THIS is a megamouth shark, again, once universally accepted as extinct for millions of years but HERE HE IS



(tons of better pics are available on google search megamouth)

and some other oddities of science

ATAKA: unknown bio mass washed up on shore, no match to known species





Tekoluta:

Thirty five tons of something big and dead was found on the beach in Tecoluta, Mexico in March, 1969 and whatever it was, it certainly received a great deal of publicity. The strange carcass's serpent-like body was covered with hard jointed armor.

A 10 foot bone tusk--estimated to weigh a ton--protruded from its head. UPI reported that biologists thought that the creature might have been a narwhal--which has a long tusk--but that after seeing the carcass, "they could not match it with any sea creature known to man."

The international press reported that a prehistoric monster of some sort had been beached and the world awaited further word on the carcass.

A seven-man commission of scientists reported on April 20, 1969 that the monster was a rorqual whale, known as the finback whale, however, that particular explanation fell short of explaining the 1 ton horn and body armor. Not only that, the first group of biologists who thoroughly examined it with the idea that it might be a whale concluded that again; it did not match any sea creature known to man.



"An unknown and still unidentified beach washup covered with body armor in South Africa in 1922."



"A rancher holds up what appears to be a dead Rhamphorhynchoidea [long-tailed] pterosaur"




"Colorado's Mystery Reptile Could Be Mini Dinosaur..... [Original headline: Mystery reptile loose in county?]....

Could the Southwest be home to a mysterious new species of reptile? Nick Sucik, a private researcher from Minnesota, thinks it?s possible. Sucik has been tracking sightings of an elusive lizard-like creature ever since hearing tales of "river dinosaurs" from those involved in the legally sketchy "reptile trade."

The "dino" is said to walk exclusively on its hind legs; to stand about 3 feet tall; and to have armlike appendages instead of forelegs. The reptile usually is seen near a wet environment and moves swiftly, with grace, Sucik said. "





"The pilot claims that this was a large animal but within the photo itself there is nothing to give it scale--plus it's blurry. This photo has been analyzed over and over--some think its an elephant, but no elephant should have been there either. Color was added to the background to aid the contrast between the object and the background in this faded image. "

The rest of my cryptid collection (some are now known species, once thought imaginary, or just unbelievably large specimens of known animals others possible hoaxes)









(plesiosaur? ^)




(deloys sasquatch ^)



^ plesiasaur?



^ pterandon?



"skunk ape ^

edit: i dont know shit about the authenticity of any of this. i aint no photographer or scientist . just a hoarder of wierd pics.


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Re: Dinosaurs extinct? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #4999568 - 11/30/05 05:19 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Tom Robbins had a funny bit to say about this in one of his books (Cant remember which one though).

Armed with a few facts, he concocted his theory. Im not sure how serious he is with it though.

Basically, he claimed that we had reached the "floral" age, where previously, the world was geared towards size, sights, and sounds for survival.
According to him, flowers started becoming specialized at 14 (no idea what number) billion years ago, to create smells to attract certain animal.
The Dinosaur, having a very little or non-existent neo-cortex (or some other neo-word which deals with the brain/smell), became extinct somehow due to this.

He goes on with it for about 20 pages, and much more eloquently and better than i can. So I will spare you the rest of my shaky recollection of a passage from a fictional book....

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Re: Dinosaurs extinct? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4999760 - 11/30/05 06:19 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

neat! :wink:


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Re: Dinosaurs extinct? [Re: TameMe]
    #4999856 - 11/30/05 06:42 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Ya'll should get a room.




Agreed. I can't stand this atmosphere. I need to be perched on a tree, peering into their window, on a dark rainy night.

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Re: Dinosaurs extinct? [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #4999976 - 11/30/05 07:12 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds exciting. :thumbup:


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Re: Dinosaurs extinct? [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5000188 - 11/30/05 08:00 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Ya'll should get a room.




Agreed. I can't stand this atmosphere. I need to be perched on a tree, peering into their window, on a dark rainy night.




lol...i don't know if you and i agree then.

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Re: Dinosaurs extinct? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5000448 - 11/30/05 09:10 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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psilocyberin said:
Tom Robbins





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