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Re: schizophrenia and hallucinogens [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4668171 - 09/16/05 12:11 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Schizo is not normal, this was a conversation that between intelligent folks that hopefuly would have gone in the direction of genetics as it pertains to tolerance. I was never talking about dibilitated schizos damn it. Cant anyone read.
Thanks for the irrelivant comment about how schizos are not normal. Im not one of them, but I think onemorerobot is a putz, sorry for being so egocentric.
Normal is most people, do you respond to everyone like a kid who cant read and thinks he is the shit. Good lord


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Re: schizophrenia and hallucinogens [Re: stemmer]
    #4668187 - 09/16/05 12:16 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

One more thing. An argument this was not. it was about genetics and non-dibilitated schizotypal personalities as it pertains to tolerance. Clearly not a conversation for you to become a part of


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Re: schizophrenia and hallucinogens [Re: stemmer]
    #4668190 - 09/16/05 12:16 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Jesus man, calm down. You don't even understand what I was responding to.

And I'm not interested in clarifying - you are short-tempered in all the threads you post in.


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Re: schizophrenia and hallucinogens [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4668222 - 09/16/05 12:23 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Temper can be mistaken for logic, ill give you that.
Sorry ya didnt read what it was you were responding to.
DUmb comments that assume their place deserve to be responded to.
None the less, you acted like you had read it


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Re: schizophrenia and hallucinogens [Re: stemmer]
    #4668237 - 09/16/05 12:27 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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Noone is normal if they have eaten acid and shrooms repeatedly, thats another way to interpret what ive said




Dude, that's what I was responding to.

And I made my response. And I stand by it.


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Re: schizophrenia and hallucinogens [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4668292 - 09/16/05 12:38 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

DEr um , thats cool then


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    #4668606 - 09/16/05 02:51 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Your attitude keeps discussions from getting off the ground. People want to discuss but you turn on them for obscure reasons. If someone posts "nonsense" it most of the time means it makes no sense *for you* because you don't see their point. When someone seems to talk utter weirdness I always ask myself "where did *I* go wrong" first, because weirdness often lies in the eye of the beholder.


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Re: schizophrenia and hallucinogens [Re: Asante]
    #4668705 - 09/16/05 05:10 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I am close with someone whose father is/was a schitzophrenic (and a sleugh of other things as well... S_E_V_E_R_E OCD, etc) hospitalized many times during his 50-some-odd years. He did a lot of psychedelics in his youth, specifically lsd and mushrooms and from what I can tell they seemed about just as normal as my own trips (including dosage). He did have trouble with re-integration, for instance succombing to wonder and disillusionment that these things are possible in the human brain and the implications of such things, and a hard questioning of reality even in his later years... but we all usually go through that once and a while. He did tell me once that "other" drugs, and I understand that as speed, barbs, and alcohol (which he considered evil) caused very traumatic effects including loss of memory, trance like states, suspected loss of free will, and a general disassociation with reality (very literally in once case where after a dose of "downers" (?) he blacked out for a period of a few days and then slept for about 72 hours.

On the other subject you mention, his daughter (her mother is also mentally "off", never admitting to which diagnosis have given her full social security benifits by the age of 30-something) has a hard time reaching the "normal" states of a trip. She loves psychedelics but really sees nothing in common with the majority of others' experiences. She also requires at least 4g of cubensis to "get anything out of it". LSD seemed, judging from what she told me, a little lackluster compared to the "hype", I.E. the truth (I thoroughly disagree).


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