Home | Community | Message Board


Lil Shop Of Spores
Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> The Psychedelic Experience

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Amazon Shop for: San Pedro

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]
Invisiblejavacap
hazelnut

Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 32
schizophrenia and shrooms
    #2333428 - 02/14/04 04:11 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

what do shrooms do to people with this condition?

do any of you know people who have schizophrenia who've taken shooms? what kind of trips do they have?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblesir tripsalot
Administrator
 Arcade Champion: Skeleton Park

Registered: 07/10/99
Posts: 6,486
Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: javacap]
    #2333460 - 02/14/04 04:35 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

People with schizophrenia should not take mushrooms, it can bring out their symptoms worse.


--------------------

"Little racoons and old possums 'n' stuff all live up in here. They've got to have a little place to sit." Bob Ross.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinellamaboy
the weasel thatsnagged the bee

Registered: 11/08/03
Posts: 563
Loc: Portland PNW
Last seen: 7 years, 5 months
Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #2333634 - 02/14/04 07:44 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

people with schizophrenia should stay away from ALL mind altering substances...even if they're symptoms are not pronounced hallucinogens can bring the onset of the schizophrenia...it's a shame...i have a friend that was diagonosed with possible schizophrenia...and she went and took acid...and she never came back...it's a really sad sate...she can barely talk no...she's stuck in a permanant delusional state. you cannot talk to her as her short term memeory is shot. if you were ever diagnosed with "conduct disorder" this later manifest itself as sschizophrenia (not always, but can) if you have any thing of this sort, stay away from hallucinogens EVEN pot...pot as been known to bring out sschizophrenia quite early. even if it would never have come out later in their life.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineSparklehorse
If Im here whosgrooming thefoxes for theparade

Registered: 04/12/02
Posts: 103
Loc: UK
Last seen: 7 years, 4 months
Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: javacap]
    #2334359 - 02/14/04 03:12 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

My sister has paranoid schizophrenia and she's had her fair share of shrooms. She's the only person I know who's had 'flashbacks', she sees a cloaked figure every now and then, really vivid.


--------------------
________________________________
No stranger than that!


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinellamaboy
the weasel thatsnagged the bee

Registered: 11/08/03
Posts: 563
Loc: Portland PNW
Last seen: 7 years, 5 months
Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: Sparklehorse]
    #2335203 - 02/14/04 07:49 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i would say that it's not a "flash back" but a form of the schizophrenia coming out...how old is she? schizophrenia normally doesn't pronounce itself until the late teens early twenties. people diagnosed with schizophrenia, or people who have the ability to later show schizophrenic symptoms should not take hallucinogens even pot!...there have been studies showing that even pot can bring out a dormant schizophrenia.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineLiquid_Dimension
Lighthousekeeper
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 02/15/04
Posts: 4,381
Loc: Radioactive state
Last seen: 4 months, 3 days
Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: javacap]
    #2339173 - 02/16/04 12:01 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Hey all,this is my very first post...I found this topic rather interesting,I've never tripped before but I'm planning to.I only done Pot really,but what's weird is when I first felt the high I went all panicky and was really anxious I couldn't really control myself (maybe because I was outside?) but anyway It was really weird and I was thinking if I tried shrooms for the first time If it would trigger something in me..hmmm I'm not really sure.I really want to trip,I read as much things about it as possible (like in erowid.org)well anyway,hopefully everything will go fine when I do it.I'm looking forward to meet you all.


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineFrankieJustTrypt
and fell

Registered: 01/27/04
Posts: 537
Loc: MI
Last seen: 2 years, 8 months
Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: Liquid_Dimension]
    #2339223 - 02/16/04 12:15 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

what's weird is when I first felt the high I went all panicky and was really anxious I couldn't really control myself

I wouldn't say thats weird. The first time I got high, (really high) at first I wouldn't allow anyone within 5 feet of me, and I'm not sure if I actually was, but I remember just rocking back and forth... After that my vision was completely flat and I mildly hallucinated at one point. I got pretty fucked up probably the first 10 or 20 times I got high, the second or third me and my friend were driving down the street going 5mph psychotically laughing because thats all we could do. I think we were getting some decent mexican sativa... That was about 6 years ago, and been a pothead since, no complaints as far as mental health goes. :wink:


--------------------
If you want a free lunch, you need to learn how to eat good advice.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineBrad1981
Stranger
Registered: 02/15/04
Posts: 5
Last seen: 13 years, 16 days
Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: javacap]
    #2339301 - 02/16/04 12:37 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

In my family we kinda have a very small history (just a couple great-aunts, great-uncles) of mental illness. I am almost 23 and luckily do not exhibit such illness, though sometimes I feel slightly anxious in public. I have smoked weed for the past 2 and a half years with no real trouble except for some paranoia. I am a pretty independent person, a little shy and quiet, but if I'm around people I know I like to talk a lot and joke around a lot. Am I safe to take hallucinogens, namely shrooms?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinetemperance
ma[ybe]gician

Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 126
Loc: southern ca
Last seen: 12 years, 3 months
Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: Sparklehorse]
    #2339826 - 02/16/04 03:20 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

she sees a cloaked figure every now and then, really vivid.




If you (or your sister) don't mind me asking...

What exactly does/did the cloaked figure look like? Other-worldly or terran? Just curious ....


--------------------
It may be best to not take anything I say too seriously because I surely don't. Anything I say may be subject to revision at any time by any person, place, thing, or catastrophic event. And please don't call me Shirley.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Anonymous

Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: javacap]
    #2340070 - 02/16/04 06:08 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I have mild schizophrenia and the decision to do shrooms lies solely on the person consuming them. There is no medical report that says, "IF YOU ARE SCHIZO, DON'T EAT MUSHROOMS".

You really need to know your disorder, your mind, your body, and your substance. No advice from these boards, erowid, or your doctor will be better than your gut feeling. If you're not wrapping your head in aluminum foil and praying to your fireplace, you should try low doses over an extended period of time to see if you can handle it, instead of a moderate to strong dose and risk damaging yourself.

With my disorder in particular, I can still dose mushrooms, LSD, and mescaline safely, but I don't take huge doses anymore. My trips are quite fun, nothing has been taken away. Hell, living my daily life is like a level 1 trip without the body buzz. Moderation in a situation like this is key, as overdoing it will certainly lead you down a dark path that you may not be able to return from.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleOsker246
Stranger
Male User Gallery

Registered: 07/10/03
Posts: 1,479
Loc: Washington
Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: ]
    #2341754 - 02/16/04 04:51 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I got a question for those willing to answer. My mother had told me that her uncle had turned into a paranoid schizo from a bad LSD trip. I was just wondering since I am also facinated from psychedelics, is there a possibility that its hereditary? From what I know of so far nobody in my family has had any mental problems except my mothers uncle. I recently learned my uncle used to be a heavy drug user ranging from meth, acid, MDMA, coke pretty much everything except PCP and he seems to be perfectly fine showing no signs of mental problems. Could it be possible that the bad trip from LSD turned my mothers Uncle schizo and it is not hereditary? I have no knowledge of schizo and would appreciate some feed back.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineentiformatie
EvolutionaryMovements
Male
Registered: 03/06/03
Posts: 1,043
Loc: miami, florida
Last seen: 8 years, 4 months
Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: javacap]
    #2343812 - 02/17/04 12:44 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

You guys know if it's safe for a schizophrenic to roll please?


--------------------
/opinion
.sean


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblejavacap
hazelnut

Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 32
Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: entiformatie]
    #2345376 - 02/17/04 01:18 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Just because someone says another person is paranoid schizophrenic doesn't mean that other person is such. In order to be diagnosed there must be at least three major symptoms persisting for at least six months. I took mushrooms during those six months before I was diagnosed and I had a decent time. I would say it's OK to take a moderate dose if you have a fairly controlled, familiar environment like a house large enough to change the setting in a lot of ways, or especially a private back yard with trees.

In my case it would be foolish to trip because even in sobriety I'm constantly beating myself up for my mistakes of the past. I just started another thread in this forum asking about the possible benefits of taking very small doses to increase creative and logical functioning.


--------------------
Magic Theater Not For Everyone
-Steppenwolf


Edited by javacap (02/17/04 01:25 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblejavacap
hazelnut

Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 32
Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: javacap]
    #2345445 - 02/17/04 01:33 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

another suggestion to attenuate fear and anxiety during a trip is to have something to put your hands and mind to work on something external (not in your head) like taking pictures or painting or something like that, something physically engaging.


--------------------
Magic Theater Not For Everyone
-Steppenwolf


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinenotapillow
I want to be a fisherman
 User Gallery

Registered: 09/29/03
Posts: 31,116
Loc: A rare and different tune
Last seen: 3 months, 22 days
Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: javacap]
    #2345482 - 02/17/04 01:47 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

if u have chizophrenia do not, i repet, DO NOT, take mushrooms or any other kind of strong psycodelics
i had a freind who had schizophrenia , but his parents never told him
well about 5 mounths ago he took 2 hits of acid
normal acid nuthin spectacular. well he ended up freakin out thinkin he was god and decided to grab a knife and head out on a 5 mile hike to kill his freind because he was the devil
he came about half a mile from his house befor he realized what he was about to do and went home
he was in the hospitol the last 4 mounths with vivid halusinations and freak outs
he just got relised about 2 weeks ago
so if u r the one with schizo i advise u to take warning if u r going to do any mushrooms
take a small dose and try plesant happy things like painting as u said
be carful
-notapillow


--------------------




Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinetelamahooka
journeyman

Registered: 01/13/04
Posts: 76
Last seen: 11 years, 10 months
Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: notapillow]
    #2345650 - 02/17/04 02:36 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

do all the drugs you can bitch!!!!!!!!! :mushroom2: :pill: :stash: :pill2: :syringe:


--------------------
"He who makes a beast of himself relieves the pain of being a man"-doctor johnson


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinetelamahooka
journeyman

Registered: 01/13/04
Posts: 76
Last seen: 11 years, 10 months
Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: javacap]
    #2345669 - 02/17/04 02:40 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i know the person notapillow is talking about, and he went to school a few times before getting sent away. he told me he was still having a lot of hallucinations and he seemed really disturbed. if you're a schizophrenic paranoid or whatever mushrooms:mushroom2: in my opinion could help, but less than an eighth, like half or two thirds of an eighth. :mushroom2:


--------------------
"He who makes a beast of himself relieves the pain of being a man"-doctor johnson


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleJared
Stranger
Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/23/01
Posts: 8,783
Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: javacap]
    #2345736 - 02/17/04 02:56 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

My mother told me about someone who she went to school with, who had mild schitzophrenia.. she said at a party, some kids thought it would be funny to dose him, and put a bunch of acid in his drink while he was in the bathroom.. Apparently, he went totally psychotic, and had to drop out of school.. was never right afterwards, never healed... She said he lived in the woods for the longest time by himself after that, and as far as she knows still does, in an old sugar cabin of his family.. that he thought he was davey crocket, that you couldn't even talk to him and that he would always be talking to himself whenever you would see him.

People take psychedelics way too lightly in my opinion. :\


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineKonyap
Gay Millionaire

Registered: 06/30/07
Posts: 28,836
Loc: Planet Piss
Last seen: 2 hours, 29 minutes
Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: Jared]
    #19139803 - 11/15/13 08:45 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I actually got schizo from extacy

I took eigths of shrooms two times after and smoked some extracts and smoked weed for years.

you could have at one point classified me as delusional, but most people wouldn't guess that, even people that I hang out with all the time and get drunk with. I don't regret the way I acted or the things I said.

So yeah, smoking even a little bitty bit of pot will make me feel extremely high and when I calm down I'll be prone to nervousness or telling someone off, but I don't know if any schizo's would want to do drugs with the stigma they have already. At least nothing sacred.

Better safe then sorry.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineKonyap
Gay Millionaire

Registered: 06/30/07
Posts: 28,836
Loc: Planet Piss
Last seen: 2 hours, 29 minutes
Re: schizophrenia and shrooms [Re: Konyap]
    #19139837 - 11/15/13 09:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Anyway from before to after

the trip is literally the same, it's just you're in the mind of someone who believes he is hearing thoughts

so the thoughts get louder, or come from new directions, sometimes shapes may form before you glance over, a little ghost outside the window when you peek to check

it doesn't just go away

It's been five months and parts of my mind will roll over things that I feel grudgy about but I am not conscious of thinking

a year and I'll be ready to smoke pot again and start the cycle anew.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]

Amazon Shop for: San Pedro

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> The Psychedelic Experience

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Schizophrenia & Shrooms hoodbran 9,018 7 09/26/08 04:52 PM
by hoodbran
* I'm an extremely stable schizophrenic person. Would mushrooms be bad for me?
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 all )
Zeusophobia 7,134 138 11/27/13 02:50 PM
by Oliveaux
* Schizophrenic or Shamanic?(GREATEST MOVIE PITCH IDEA) of all time
( 1 2 all )
SleepyE 3,041 21 05/09/13 02:12 PM
by SleepyE
* Using LSD to treat Schizophrenia GonzoDJ 10,065 10 12/25/12 03:49 AM
by nooneman
* can i ever do shrooms again?
( 1 2 all )
zshroomer 3,040 26 10/13/06 11:03 PM
by OMniversal
* likelihood of schizophrenia dvol 2,566 10 11/16/06 03:30 AM
by Liquid_Dimension
* marijauna does NOT cause schizophrenia, this latest lie HAS to be stopped...
( 1 2 3 all )
MileHiMycophiles 4,983 57 03/23/10 08:43 PM
by quiksilver98
* Being on psychedelics vs being on schizophrenia Supreme Slammage 1,819 3 10/08/12 09:19 PM
by Aryaes

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: psilocybinjunkie, Asante, Rose, sui, karode13, LSDreamer
10,396 topic views. 7 members, 243 guests and 14 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
FreeSpores.com
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2017 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.026 seconds spending 0.001 seconds on 16 queries.