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OfflineAzure
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P. caerulescens and P. aztecorum
    #454967 - 11/11/01 01:19 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone try P. aztecorum yet? What's the best substrate to grow them on? What's the best substrate for caerulescens?

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Re: P. caerulescens and P. aztecorum [Re: Azure]
    #455216 - 11/11/01 06:00 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

for the caerulescens, in the book "les champignons allucinogenique du mexico" there's a report about substrates, givin the best results with corn grain, and 2nd corn+straw, with less yields.
i'd follow the same direction that aaron followed for his fruiting weillii, inoculating a mix of various substrates (wood and dung), but without excluding a try with some grain, like rye, wheat or rye grass seed, hopefully could work.
same about the aztecorums.

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Re: P. caerulescens and P. aztecorum [Re: CLuB99]
    #455393 - 11/11/01 08:38 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks. Both prints germinated in three days :) I also was able to germinate my Ps. cyanescens print, so it turns out they're actually viable. Furthermore, my shiitake logs are fruiting, but that's not very relevant...

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Re: P. caerulescens and P. aztecorum [Re: Azure]
    #455452 - 11/11/01 09:19 PM (23 years, 4 months ago)

ive just started messing around with these two psilo's
im not at the fruiting stage yet but from what i can gather
caeru.should be spawned w/grain and should do well on manure/based composts
aztec lends itself to wood based substrates, see aaron wielii posts at the forest floor
keep us posted on your results Azure


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Re: P. caerulescens and P. aztecorum [Re: Azure]
    #455671 - 11/12/01 02:17 AM (23 years, 4 months ago)

I would always be careful about using dung. Many mushrooms won't fructify. Probably adding a dung containing compost would be better suited than adding dung directly .

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Re: P. caerulescens and P. aztecorum [Re: Elektrolurch]
    #455734 - 11/12/01 05:48 AM (23 years, 4 months ago)

i have a few colonised petris with them from spores....next step is to make a liquid-culture that you can use for syringes..
substrate is grasseed ...whole oatgrain should also work fine
casing is standard peat/chalk...

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Re: P. caerulescens and P. aztecorum [Re: Elektrolurch]
    #455819 - 11/12/01 09:22 AM (23 years, 4 months ago)

I was thinking more down the lines of alder sawdust supplemented with bran for the aztecorum and trying birdseed with the caerulescens. I will also try both on rye grass seed.

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