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Offlinefreddurgan
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The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia
    #4488461 - 08/03/05 04:05 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you PBS for constantly showing quality programming. I just watched tonight's NOVA, entitled "Deep Sea Invasion", and it was F-U-C-K-E-D. I'll summarize what NOVA told me.

The gist is, there is a plant called Caulerpa Taxifolia. There are OTHER plants very similiar to it in many oceans around the world, but this one is special. This one is different in that it's only environment until 1984 was aquariums, and that it grows completely unchecked, with nothing to stop it. Only one known organism feeds on it, and it's a slug. It has very special climate needs and cannot survive just anywhere. Not only does nothing eat this plant, but it is also very dangerous for two other reasons.

a.) It doesn't produce sexually. Just ONE cell contains all the plant needs to continue to reproduce. All you gotta do is touch anchor on the bottom, pull the anchor up, drive your boat away, and woops? You might have just moved Caulerpa to somewhere else, waiting for someone to do the same.
b.) It grows 1 inch per day.

and actually, c.) It can survive in really cold water.

So basically, what we have here is a completely unnatural plant going apeshit in a vast ocean. Where did it come from? Apparently, it was the only algae that could survive in an aquarium, and so it was cultivated and spread throughout the world as the most popular aquarium decoration. Then by accident in France, it was let out into the waters directly beneath the museum it was located in.

The only thing that gets me is, how did the plant become the best aquarium plant? They didn't genetically engineer it (on purpose). It was IMPORTED from somewhere, and just happened to thrive really easily.

So..is it natural? It came from somewhere. But did it come from that place in it's current form, or was it just a robust species that became even more robust through years of captivation and then was accidentaly released back into the wild? Only time will tell.


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Edited by freddurgan (08/03/05 04:13 AM)


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: freddurgan]
    #4488761 - 08/03/05 08:56 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

At first I thought this was BS (no offence :smile:), but a quick google search tells me that C.taxifolia is listed among the 100 "Worst Invasive Alien Species" threatening biodiversity.

fuck.


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: ummikko]
    #4488762 - 08/03/05 08:58 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

thast crazy...

we may be calculatus eliminatus.


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: freddurgan]
    #4488765 - 08/03/05 09:01 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Strap yourself in fellas...I have a feeling that Earth is about to try and buck us off.


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: MOTH]
    #4488766 - 08/03/05 09:02 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

ive never been in a rodeo before, this should be entertaining!


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: Todcasil]
    #4488768 - 08/03/05 09:04 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

It's only fun until your mount rolls over and crushes you.  :tongue2:


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: Todcasil]
    #4488777 - 08/03/05 09:10 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Here's the whole list (in alpabetical order). A somewhat depressing read.

100 of the World's Worst Invasive Alien Species
http://www.issg.org/database/species/search.asp?st=100ss&fr=1&sts=


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: ummikko]
    #4488778 - 08/03/05 09:11 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

goodnight everyone :heart:

thanks ellemysh


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: Todcasil]
    #4488780 - 08/03/05 09:14 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Sweet dreams.  :heart:


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: ummikko]
    #4488781 - 08/03/05 09:16 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

EEEEWWWWWWWWWW! Check out this guy, he's on the list:

He looks like a minion of :cthulhu:


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: freddurgan]
    #4488795 - 08/03/05 09:27 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

this looks like a cool show, I love NOVA, I set recorder to get it
on Thur morning :rasta:


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: freddurgan]
    #4488805 - 08/03/05 09:33 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

If worst comes to worst, other oceanic plants will simply be subjected to a highly competitive form of natural selection. Perhaps this highly successful plant will evolve and branch into the new generation of plants hundreds of thousands or millions of years from now due to its success.


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: freddurgan]
    #4488945 - 08/03/05 10:40 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

oh no! some algae! EARTH WILL NEVER SURVIVE

oh wait it survived getting hit by asteroids on multiple occasions

even had a fucked chunk blasted off it to form the moon and still supports life

we'll be long gone before we see this world "fucked"


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: Turd]
    #4488953 - 08/03/05 10:42 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Turd said:
oh no! some algae! EARTH WILL NEVER SURVIVE

oh wait it survived getting hit by asteroids on multiple occasions

even had a fucked chunk blasted off it to form the moon and still supports life

we'll be long gone before we see this world "fucked"




Probably true...it's just sad to see it decline in my lifetime.


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: MOTH]
    #4488969 - 08/03/05 10:48 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Wow. Thats interesting how simple that plant reproduces. Too bad theres no way to use it for fuel or food.


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: PuZuZu]
    #4489065 - 08/03/05 11:19 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Harvest a couple tons, irradiate it, then ferment it. BAM, ethanol.

edit: forgot to caramelize it... god i hate the food network. can't they just say "brown"??


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: freddurgan]
    #4489102 - 08/03/05 11:35 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

can you smoke it?


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: afoaf]
    #4489463 - 08/03/05 01:36 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Haha. if you could smoke it or use it for fuel, we would be dancing I'm sure.


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: ummikko]
    #4489485 - 08/03/05 01:41 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

ummikko said:
Here's the whole list (in alpabetical order). A somewhat depressing read.

100 of the World's Worst Invasive Alien Species
http://www.issg.org/database/species/search.asp?st=100ss&fr=1&sts=




Why aren't humans on that list? :smirk:


Personally, I'd be more worried about the TOXIC WASTE and SHIT we dump into the ocean, than some algae.


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Re: The ocean's possible demise? - Caulerpa Taxifolia [Re: freddurgan]
    #4490661 - 08/03/05 05:47 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

There needs to be a predator for this sort of thing.

What? We killed them all off for their expensive fat?

Damn.


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