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Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article)
    #23700723 - 10/02/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

(And It's Going To Get Worse)

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The nuclear disaster has contaminated the world's largest ocean in only five years and it's still leaking 300 tons of radioactive waste every day.

What was the most dangerous nuclear disaster in world history? Most people would say the Chernobyl nuclear disaster in Ukraine, but they’d be wrong. In 2011, an earthquake, believed to be an aftershock of the 2010 earthquake in Chile, created a tsunami that caused a meltdown at the TEPCO nuclear power plant in Fukushima, Japan. Three nuclear reactors melted down and what happened next was the largest release of radiation into the water in the history of the world. Over the next three months, radioactive chemicals, some in even greater quantities than Chernobyl, leaked into the Pacific Ocean. However, the numbers may actually be much higher as Japanese official estimates have been proven by several scientists to be flawed in recent years.

If that weren’t bad enough, Fukushima continues to leak an astounding 300 tons of radioactive waste into the Pacific Ocean every day. It will continue do so indefinitely as the source of the leak cannot be sealed as it is inaccessible to both humans and robots due to extremely high temperatures.

It should come as no surprise, then, that Fukushima has contaminated the entire Pacific Ocean in just five years. This could easily be the worst environmental disaster in human history and it is almost never talked about by politicians, establishment scientists, or the news. It is interesting to note that TEPCO is a subsidiary partner with General Electric (also known as GE), one of the largest companies in the world, which has considerable control over numerous news corporations and politicians alike. Could this possibly explain the lack of news coverage Fukushima has received in the last five years? There is also evidence that GE knew about the poor condition of the Fukushima reactors for decades and did nothing. This led 1,400 Japanese citizens to sue GE for their role in the Fukushima nuclear disaster.

Even if we can’t see the radiation itself, some parts of North America’s western coast have been feeling the effects for years. Not long after Fukushima, fish in Canada began bleeding from their gills, mouths, and eyeballs. This “disease” has been ignored by the government and has decimated native fish populations, including the North Pacific herring. Elsewhere in Western Canada, independent scientists have measured a 300% increase in the level of radiation. According to them, the amount of radiation in the Pacific Ocean is increasing every year. Why is this being ignored by the mainstream media? It might have something to do with the fact that the US and Canadian governments have banned their citizens from talking about Fukushima so “people don’t panic.”

Further south in Oregon, USA, starfish began losing legs and then disintegrating entirely when Fukushima radiation arrived there in 2013. Now, they are dying in record amounts, putting the entire oceanic ecosystem in that area at risk. However, government officials say Fukushima is not to blame even though radiation in Oregon tuna tripled after Fukushima. In 2014, radiation on California beaches increased by 500 percent. In response, government officials said that the radiation was coming from a mysterious “unknown” source and was nothing to worry about.

However, Fukushima is having a bigger impact than just the West coast of North America. Scientists are now saying that the Pacific Ocean is already radioactive and is currently at least 5-10 times more radioactive than when the US government dropped numerous nuclear bombs in the Pacific during and after World War II. If we don’t start talking about Fukushima soon, we could all be in for a very unpleasant surprise.





Radioactive Debris from Fukushima approaching North America’s western coast      Credit – RT

I saw this article elsewhere but the page wouldn't open...


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Re: Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article) [Re: musiclover420]
    #23700746 - 10/02/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Its fucking scary how this is still happening. It will never stop and there is no way they could ever contain this. Tho like everything that happsn it gets swept under the rug and ignored by the media so I guess it doesnt exist anymore.


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Re: Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article) [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23700757 - 10/02/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Its fucking scary how this is still happening. It will never stop and there is no way they could ever contain this. Tho like everything that happsn it gets swept under the rug and ignored by the media so I guess it doesnt exist anymore.




Yeah its really fucked up. Not sure how accurate this article is but its certainly a big issue.


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Re: Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article) [Re: musiclover420]
    #23700828 - 10/02/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Gee wiz, a nuclear power plant released a ton of radioactive material into the ocean and it's really bad! I never knew that would happen!

Sorry, sarcasm.

As someone who spent their entire childhood and sum 22 years in and around Seattle / Portland, this is a travesty of epic proportions. It will have long lasting affects on the ecology and environment like nothing we've seen before in our life times.


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Re: Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article) [Re: musiclover420]
    #23700836 - 10/02/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like exaggerated fear mongering


That being said, I'm against the use of nuclear energy in general, the risk of dotting our planet with reactors is insane.


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Re: Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article) [Re: TNK] * 1
    #23700840 - 10/02/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

From the sea and from the Hanford site, jeez Washington will be a nuclear waste land in no time.
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Re: Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article) [Re: ChinChiller]
    #23700854 - 10/02/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

No kidding.

There have already been reports of fish contaminated radioactivity being sold locally in the fish markets.

Does that sound appealing to anyone?


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Re: Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article) [Re: TNK]
    #23700857 - 10/02/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Pisaster spp. have virtually disappeared from California's intertidal community in the last 3 years or so.


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Re: Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article) [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23700890 - 10/02/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Repertoire89 said:
Sounds like exaggerated fear mongering


That being said, I'm against the use of nuclear energy in general, the risk of dotting our planet with reactors is insane.




I feel like more realistically the article is exaggerating some things to try and bring attention to a widely overlooked issue.

As commenters pointed out "300 tons daily" sounds pretty ludicrous even if it was "300 tons of contaminated seawater".


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Re: Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article) [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #23700921 - 10/02/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Its a serious issue in any case

Nuclear power should be avoided at all cost


Our ecosystem is fucked, its such a shame to trade so much beauty and life for the apparently fleeting abomination which is modern civilization.


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Re: Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article) [Re: musiclover420]
    #23700938 - 10/02/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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(And It's Going To Get Worse)

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Radioactive Debris from Fukushima approaching North America’s western coast      Credit – RT





          OMG


Fukushimas' nuclear plant water coolant intake...

3 days after the quake.
Should be an 'OMG' graem


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Re: Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article) [Re: musiclover420] * 5
    #23701062 - 10/02/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Type Fukushima into google news and you will receive over a million results.  Fukushima IS being talked about.  Scientists across the Globe are studying Fukushima. 

https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/focus/fukushima/status-update

How knowledgeable is the general public in topics of tritiated water, hydrogen transfer, radioisotope detection and origin analysis, radioisotope toxicity ect...

People ARE talking about it, but radiation physics is a complex topic and difficult to communicate.  The general public has a 4th-grade level of comprehension in radioactivity.  So they get stuck with the absolute worst information.

Take the following statement for example, "300 tons of radioactive waste per day".  What does that even mean?  I'm sorry, I'm a physicist but I sure as shit cant tell you what that means.  Because they have provided no information about what constitutes radioactive waste.

300 tons of a high concentration radioactive solution can kill on contact, on the other hand, if one were to take 300 tons of water and drop in a few atoms of cesium, you can then make the claim that you now have 300 tons of radioactive waste, but what you really have is 300 tons of innocuous water.

When making such a claim, without a stated concentration, you have absolutely no information.  The radioactive waste statement is quite literally, without meaning.

Take radioactivity out of the equation, lets look at cyanide, a commonly known poison that is lethally toxic.  The EPA has a legal maximum concentration level for cyanide in drinking water in the US of 0.2 mg/L.  People drink cyanide every day, but are not dropping dead in mass.  Why? Concentration.

I didn't really read the article but I did follow the link and saw that they were using the following photo as a main image:


Look at legend on the right side of the map.  See the units?  Yea. centimeters.  Radioactivity concentration is not measured in units of length.  The map was actually a survey of wave heights from the earthquake, it has nothing to do with radioactivity.  That should be your first hint when considering the credibility of the article.

The most reputable news on this issue will be found at the IAEA website linked above.  And I will link a few more below.

US Health Physics Society:
https://hps.org/search.cfm
keyword" fukushima

US Nuclear Regulator Commission:
http://www.nrc.gov/site-help/search.html?q=fukushima&site=allSites#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=fukushima&gsc.sort=


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Re: Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article) [Re: deucedbi9] * 4
    #23701101 - 10/02/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

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(And It's Going To Get Worse)

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Radioactive Debris from Fukushima approaching North America’s western coast      Credit – RT





          OMG


Fukushimas' nuclear plant water coolant intake...

3 days after the quake.
Should be an 'OMG' graem




That is radioactive debris? Where are the measurements?

Chernobyl was worse than Fukushima because Chernobyl released its radioactive material into the atmosphere where it can settle down on surfaces. (A three dimensional release with two dimensional consequences). Fukushima's radiation is being diluted by an entire ocean. Do you have any idea what the volume of the Pacific Ocean is? 714,000,000 cubic kilometers.

300 tons of contaminated water is .0000003 cubic kilometers. Just a little math will show you that the radioactive material of 300 tons would be about 1 part per 23.8 quadrillion. (And that's assuming that every particle in that 300 tons is radioactive. In reality it's just water with a high concentration of radioactive material) That is equivalent to about 20 grains of sand out of ALL THE FUCKING SAND ON EVERY BEACH IN THE WORLD.

If someone was trying to sell Fukushima radiation as a cure by scooping out some water from puget sound, even a homeopath would call it a scam.


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Re: Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article) [Re: koods] * 1
    #23701107 - 10/02/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article) [Re: Mojo]
    #23701116 - 10/02/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Chernobyl was worse than Fukushima because Chernobyl released its radioactive material into the atmosphere where it can settle down on surfaces. (A three dimensional release with two dimensional consequences). Fukushima's radiation is being diluted by an entire ocean. Do you have any idea what the volume of the Pacific Ocean is? 714,000,000 cubic kilometers.

300 tons of contaminated water is .0000003 cubic kilometers. Just a little math will show you that the radioactive material of 300 tons would be about 1 part per 23.8 quadrillion. That is equivalent to about 20 grains of sand out of ALL THE FUCKING SAND ON EVERY BEACH IN THE WORLD.

If someone was trying to sell Fukushima radiation as a cure by scooping out some water from puget sound, even a homeopath would call it a scam.





You are aware there is moisture in the atmosphere right? Clearly it is not all going to stay in the ocean. Even if it did it will still climb the food chain...

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Type Fukushima into google news and you will receive over a million results.  Fukushima IS being talked about.  Scientists across the Globe are studying Fukushima. 





I have not seen an article about it in months if not years, maybe I just don't look around enough but you would think more major news sources would mention it.


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Re: Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article) [Re: musiclover420]
    #23701121 - 10/02/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Actually a lot of it is probably going to sink right to the bottom of the ocean never to be seen again.


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Re: Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article) [Re: koods]
    #23701147 - 10/02/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

do you know how catastrophic that will be if it sinks to say a methane sheet and the particles suck up heat
the whole world would choke on methane clouds and die out for 100s or thousands of years


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    #23701150 - 10/02/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Stop your anti-fearmongering and throwing around facts like that. We want to be afraid damnit.


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Re: Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article) [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23701167 - 10/02/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Actually a lot of it is probably going to sink right to the bottom of the ocean never to be seen again.




Oh wow a lot of it is going to sink... What do you think happened to particles from Chernobyl that landed on the ocean?

Water only makes up the majority of the earth so its not like tons of particles would settle into water...

Even if "a lot" of it is "probably" going to sink what the hell does that change?

People still will be eating radioactive fish (while they can) and being exposed to radiation all over the world becouse of this...

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Stop your anti-fearmongering and throwing around facts like that. We want to be afraid damnit.




What "facts" did he throw around? :lol:


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Re: Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (article) [Re: Konyap]
    #23701172 - 10/02/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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do you know how catastrophic that will be if it sinks to say a methane sheet and the particles suck up heat
the whole world would choke on methane clouds and die out for 100s or thousands of years



Explain to me how some radioactive material is going to release methane?


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